[04:01:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to .labster> I believe it'll probably be WG
[04:03:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> But any of the usual 3 or other indie options don't suck, so as long as they move away from Fandom, it's a win in my book
[06:05:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> what if they move to fextrafile...
[06:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> or shoutwiki
[06:08:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <catherinemaybe> [1/2] i love fextralife i go there accidentally and find they have literally 0 information on their wiki about a 6 year old well-documented game
[06:08:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <catherinemaybe> [2/2] just placeholders and templates
[06:18:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to amelialoveheart> Legally they can't
[06:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Because Fextralife doesn't operate under CC licenses
[06:20:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to catherinemaybe> i love reading the comments on fextra because theyre so unhinge
[06:20:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to amelialoveheart> So you know how some people say some platforms are dead and perhaps decomposed? Shoutwiki is a skeleton that is completely torn apart at this point
[06:20:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> can you even make new wikis on shout now?
[06:20:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> That's how dead it is
[06:20:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> the createwiki thing was down for like a year last i checked
[07:38:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to kai84> Woah... That is a pretty table.
[07:50:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540, replying to elitericefarmer> Kinda reminds me of this.
[07:50:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wickerbasket2540> https://klipy.com/gifs/animation-movies-14
[08:12:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly, replying to emiliers> I know this anime game is forgotten but don't forget tower of fantasy :(
[08:13:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> hoyo wikis in fandom are literally carrying their anime entertainment category lol
[08:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> if all of them are forked, it's jover for their anime entertainment
[08:56:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Arknights forked to wiki.gg. Blue Archive has a wiki on MH. Azur Lane, Umamusume, and GFL have indie wikis. Though besides Hoyo wikis Wuwa, Nikke, NTE, FGO are all on Fandom.
[09:19:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers, replying to elisapoly> Tower of Fantasy isn't Hoyo
[09:20:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> I was solely referring to Hoyo games lol... there are so many gacha games out there
[09:20:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> Most of the gacha games I play (like the aforementioned Another Eden and GFL) have independent wikis though
[09:20:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> I'm surprised FGO is still on Fandom...
[09:23:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> oh there's an Aether Gazer wiki on Miraheze, neat
[10:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer, replying to wickerbasket2540> Literally me.
[10:44:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elitericefarmer> I'm Donkey from Shrek.
[13:29:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [1/2] They are just using ai for the sake of it
[13:29:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1538902620998078524/IMG_8488.png?ex=6a845e40&is=6a830cc0&hm=56ae7063ecac70a295f1195d59536c6d8541bfa34efbccc07a94c17eb17dee58&
[15:41:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to quesquestion> Ew
[15:42:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> From the looks of it, they could at least use their non-vibecoded version
[15:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> (Which again, is distracting and annoying, but the bar is pretty low for them)
[16:16:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizer.jpeg> [1/2] GitHub has seen better days omg
[16:16:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizer.jpeg> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1538944538377453670/IMG_0793.png?ex=6a84854a&is=6a8333ca&hm=c2eb8ffafd7d590ec27ae37e4fe63a8c3c8094f7c6e5529805e8f75c25d3e551&
[16:21:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizer.jpeg> only 3 services are "normal"
[16:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <quesquestion, replying to justleafy2003> https://www.fandom.com/trivia
[18:03:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> So they have chosen weird gloop?
[18:03:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> [1/2] this seems to be their deadline lol
[18:03:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1538971605777129644/image.png?ex=6a849e7f&is=6a834cff&hm=fa42c4b05d247b29f332cb83e54ea996ff2f641c4ae343f90d3b68e5a1a58f78&
[18:04:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <hihello_what_are_you_doing_here> That's a placeholder date
[18:16:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> damn that's a huge hit for fandoom
[18:27:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> and another major victory for humanity
[18:33:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Overwatch also moved to WeirdGloop like from last week
[18:34:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> If I'm correct most hoyo wikis on Fandom refuses to move away from Fandoom just because "too hard"
[18:44:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> yeah
[18:44:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> unfortunately...
[18:44:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> and tarkov are hellbent on staying on fandom
[18:44:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to max20091> Also I don't think hoyo gives a damn about their communities outside the game.
[18:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> But, don't take that as a statement.
[18:45:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly, replying to aeywoo> was, as in the case of zzz
[18:46:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> they once supported the zzz wiki, so there's the official tag on their wiki. Probably the reason why they don't want to move away
[18:46:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> zzz dev team wasn't the chinese one so that's make sense
[18:47:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Who was it
[18:47:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> [1/2] https://zenless-zone-zero.fandom.com/wiki/Zenless_Zone_Zero_Wiki
[18:47:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> [2/2] can see on their right side of the name if u can afford to see past ads lol
[18:47:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> God, I played ZZZ for a bit, and then I found out Hoyo was using Gen AI Slop, and it made me just stop playing.
[18:47:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> they used AI image gen since Genshin
[18:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <elisapoly> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1538982762101608640/image.png?ex=6a84a8e3&is=6a835763&hm=8b99396158cb767e97715d80c988476b910d8dcb9a9718935d28e9475efa3dce&
[18:49:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to max20091> It's quite disgusting considering how many employees they have.
[18:50:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> I wanted to play NTE after it was announced, and then I was like nope, because they also used GenAI, and were also stealing IP for some reason?
[18:58:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to aeywoo> They do, and likely they didn't use ZDR servers either so whatever data they feed to the clankers becomes training data
[19:00:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> As far as I know there's not a single ZDR AI provider in China🤷
[19:17:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> https://x.com/effectfully/status/2089392655419474388
[19:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> DC Database refuses to leave because the bureaucrats decided all wikis are bad
[19:29:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> It’s so dumb
[19:29:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> what
[19:31:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Yeah last time it was brought up they just said mediawiki is a terrible software and they won’t engage any further
[19:31:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> well
[19:31:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Tf
[19:32:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> they hate mediawiki so much they refuse to even engage the idea of forking
[19:32:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kai84> based
[19:33:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to amelialoveheart> dc.fandom.com?
[19:34:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizedkirbytree47> I'm not actually a fan of MediaWiki either.  That's why I forked one of my wikis to convert if from MW to git.
[19:35:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <randomizedkirbytree47> DC Database might be hard to convert given its size though.
[19:37:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> all off us wiki techers have a complicated, toxic, love hate relationship with it tbf
[19:51:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> I love MediaWiki
[20:38:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <sakurababochka, replying to randomizedkirbytree47> We forked from git to mediawiki specifically for the tables and customisability. Mediawiki is definitely strange but it does what it's needed to do.
[20:42:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <eytirth> MediawWiki is a bucketful,  but it is also beautiful
[21:42:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> nice
[21:44:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> also just remembered but aren't the star trek wikis (Memory Alpha/Beta/etc.) still on Fandom?
[21:45:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emiliers> those wikis and wookieepedia moving would probably be the biggest hits to fandom
[22:10:20] <dmehus>	 @emiliers: yeah, I doubt Memory Alpha will ever leave Fandom. That's a content goldmine
[22:38:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> Marvel and mcu wikis too
[23:00:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> neither will wookipedia
[23:05:02] <dmehus>	 yeah
[23:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to originalauthority> i wonder why wookiepedia wouldn't move
[23:05:26] <dmehus>	 Doesn't Fandom have some 'flanker' brand wikis on a different subdomain?
[23:05:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow> perhaps because fandom would urgently try to find ways to convince them
[23:05:37] <dmehus>	 like a domain for game-focused wikis, for example
[23:09:39] <dmehus>	 Gamespot, yeah
[23:09:55] <dmehus>	 no, that's not it
[23:10:01] <dmehus>	 that's an acquired site
[23:10:09] <dmehus>	 ah whatever, doesn't matter :P
[23:20:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to bartomelow> I believe they have fandom employees on their staff? They are the reason fandom became a thing iirc