[19:11:59] <Reception123>	 In preparation for the upcoming Apex community ban, I wanted to ask IRC moderators what you think should be done regarding IRC. 
[19:12:36] <Reception123>	 I personally am quite unsure as as far as I've seen they've not been particularly disruptive here so I probably would go for we can leave it for now but if they do one silly thing then we ban them. Though an argument that they should be immediately banned would also not be unreasonable.
[19:15:01] <MacFan4000>	 I don’t really care what we decide to do
[19:16:51] <MacFan4000>	 Some of the moderators aren’t in here though
[19:18:28] <raidarr>	 ah yes, a conspiracy channel
[19:19:00] <Reception123>	 raidarr: it's public!
[19:19:07] <raidarr>	 dammit
[19:19:18] <raidarr>	 well the best conspiracy is made under the public's nose
[19:19:25] <Reception123>	 heh, true :P
[19:19:32] <Reception123>	 I'll repeat my message from before though
[19:19:35] <Reception123>	 In preparation for the upcoming Apex community ban, I wanted to ask IRC moderators what you think should be done regarding IRC. 
[19:19:37] <Reception123>	 I personally am quite unsure as as far as I've seen they've not been particularly disruptive here so I probably would go for we can leave it for now but if they do one silly thing then we ban them. Though an argument that they should be immediately banned would also not be unreasonable.
[19:21:09] <raidarr>	 I'm leaving it open to the discord and irc teams respectively in the drafted closure what they want to do
[19:22:59] <Reception123>	 raidarr: well, you're an IRC mod!
[19:23:05] <Reception123>	 since you've got +V in #miraheze I think that counts
[19:23:49] <raidarr>	 yes, but I'll be neutral unless I'm needed to tiebreak or something; at this time I think there isn't enough issue to act and if apex proves to behave by irc, it will help establish credibility whenever an appeal may take place
[19:24:27] <raidarr>	 I think apex totally lacks the self control to play the long game if she hasn't kicked the habit
[19:24:55] <MacFan4000>	 RhinosF1: ^^ thoughts?
[19:30:45] <MacFan4000>	 .op
[19:30:45] <MirahezeBot>	 Attempting to OP...
[19:32:57] <RhinosF1>	 MacFan4000: I don't think they'll last unbanned
[20:11:20] <raidarr>	 to put in another way, how many here now are in favor of dropping apex from the miraheze irc system for the immediate future
[20:15:04] <MacFan4000>	 i dont really care, but nale clearly wants them banned
[20:16:42] <MacFan4000>	 Agent: to fill you in we've been discussing weather to ban Apex on IRC, and there hasn't been a consensus
[20:17:07] <Agent>	 MacFan4000: ah
[20:17:29] <Agent>	 re: my comments on #miraheze, that's based on what I've seen per a discussion on Discord about it
[20:32:10] <RhinosF1>	 I'm meh
[20:32:19] <RhinosF1>	 But I will ban at the first sight of issues
[20:32:25] <RhinosF1>	 He's banned from -testwiki
[20:37:40] <Sario>	 I'm not a mod, but imo the best practice is to go ahead and give them a chance and ban them the first time they break the rules. 
[21:05:56] <raidarr>	 sorry to dc, I probably missed a bit but last I saw was 2 clear inputs for 'ban if there's an issue' and that seems to be the gist here
[21:07:50] <RhinosF1>	 raidarr: didn't miss anything
[21:07:55] <RhinosF1>	 And yes that's consensus
[21:08:56] <raidarr>	 cool, that'll do it then
[21:09:26] <raidarr>	 it's a more generous deal than discord, which elected to carry over the ban
[21:10:04] <RhinosF1>	 I mean we'll be strict
[21:10:23] <RhinosF1>	 Slightest wiff of trouble will get them gone
[21:14:19] <raidarr>	 oh certainly