[01:17:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T344189
[01:17:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> This is a blocker for php 8.2
[01:36:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/commit/4727ed1a9ccb6c321e536f0249dafc1f4d160d88
[11:28:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to paladox> Yeah this is giving me a major ManageWiki headache
[16:40:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> @paladox You managed to get any further with the debugging? I'm going to do some debugging on it.
[16:46:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> No, I got distracted and have done something else for another issue
[19:51:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> @originalauthority did you go any further?
[19:53:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> No
[19:53:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I probably got less than you got
[19:53:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I was hoping to see exactly what PHP is doing when the error occurs but mediawiki refused to give me a full error trace.
[19:54:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> Oh you can use the php slowlog
[19:54:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> Neitherless it’s the loading of classes
[19:54:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> One of the things is causing it
[19:55:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I'm not running FPM so I don't think I can use slowlog
[19:56:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Oh it only works on Nginx I believe too?
[19:58:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> Nope
[19:58:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> Can use it with apache
[19:58:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> Which wikimedia do
[20:00:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Ah I think I still can't because of FPM.
[20:01:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Which is annoying but switching from apache2handler will make my head hurt.
[20:15:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Maybe codex would fix the issue? Obviously not an implement immediately solution, but maybe looking to the future.
[20:16:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I'd use xdebug to take a further look if I could figure out how to set CW up locally 🤣
[20:24:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You can use slowlog
[20:24:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to originalauthority> With difficulty
[20:24:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Look at our CI config
[20:28:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I tried it a while ago I couldn't get it to work
[20:31:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> maybe I'll have another go; do you have a link? I can't find it again
[20:32:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Any Miraheze repo