[04:24:38] InterwikiDispatcher is successfully installed, but not sure why https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Interwiki shows three of them as struckthrough [04:32:54] MacFan4000: do those interwiki entries struck out already exist on the interwiki table? [04:33:02] If not, you need to add it first [06:12:01] I wonder if it may make sense to allow the metawiki sysadmin group to add/remove meta sysadmin [06:23:04] I think it might [07:39:26] That makes sense [07:39:52] I'm not sure if we've had a new SRE since we last revised global perms [07:39:59] To reduce what could be done globally [09:57:42] Any objections to getting rid of individual server docs on Meta and just having one page? While it might look nicer I feel like it's too much to maintain and having it on one page is easier. There's not much info on the pages that isn't already in the central table [09:58:22] None here [09:58:44] I guess it was interesting to document historic specs but that's about it [09:59:10] maybe some aspects of the info included on those pages can be merged into the main table on [[Tech:Server usage]] [09:59:11]

[10:00:05] I have a slightly cooler idea, we auto generate the page based on puppetdb data too [10:00:23] That sounds like a nice solution [10:00:29] I think the services pages are more useful than individual pages [10:00:34] Anything that's not manual human work is good [10:00:43] yeah [10:00:47] But however many manually updated human pages is definitely not the solution [10:00:58] Yeah, we've seen it doesn't work [10:01:20] Anything that requires humans doesn't scale [10:01:28] Imagine the pain once we have to repopulate all the pages when we move to cloud15-18 [10:01:42] lots of red links [10:02:11] Indeed. Manual and repetitive tasks are often too boring, like updating individual server pages [10:02:35] I also hope we can finally automate most SRE tasks other than investigating bugs in 2024 [10:11:39] <.labster> Maybe the Singularity will happen this year and AI will decide to run our servers for us. [12:02:43] That's the spirit 😄👍 [12:03:47] That's why we invented computers. They can do the "manual and repetitive tasks" for us [12:04:34] All we have is dumb programs and chatbots for now. [12:05:36] I did propose a lot of automation [12:06:06] We had deploy tool, ssl certs and something else planned [12:06:20] Do use the SRE-automation tag on phab [12:06:24] Yep, and automating ImportDump completely [12:06:36] @cosmicalpha has a patch that's almost ready afaik [12:07:11] Wiki renames should probably also come next, especially if we've got frequent backups so there's really no risk (there shouldn't be anyway) [12:08:30] @reception123 you are not doing database renames without a human present [12:08:46] A human would be present of course [12:08:52] But not like 4 different commands [12:09:07] There should be a single command to run, maybe some Y/N confirms needed [12:09:10] One command is fine [12:09:24] Yeah, that's all I'd ask for. Basically like ImportDump now without automation [12:09:32] For ID though we can definitely do no humans [12:09:40] Create a task [12:09:57] It's on my list! [12:10:47] If you create a task, I'm happy to either look at doing it or review some code [12:31:45] Thanks! I don't think it's too difficult really, it can probably done with salt via puppet [12:32:16] It would only be ops doing it anyway so that's not a problem [12:52:05] Yea salt would definitely be involved [22:26:44] So, mh: interwiki link is not working presently. It was noted on a Meta talk page but I didn't see anything here in the server. Just making sure tech staff is aware. [22:29:26] oh [22:29:31] not working how? [22:30:25] [1/2] It's showing blank on the Requests for reopening page [22:30:25] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_reopening_wikis [22:30:59] It was noted on the Gazette talk page that it was just showing a bullet in place of the wiki name/link [22:32:21] [1/2] From the gazeteer page: [22:32:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1192234020235382854/image.png?ex=65a85575&is=6595e075&hm=aa52fee148e44c45543e713e6c30a42d667ad19dd94b21aa9984972e7042114f& [22:32:50] oh that's lovely [22:34:03] [1/2] comilla used the full url link, not the interwiki [22:34:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1192234449656615063/image.png?ex=65a855db&is=6595e0db&hm=878f0d4e0962e492cbb543912c9ae8f30988523bf94d196d3683f1195c8bb9e0& [22:35:02] so, to be more correct, now that I look at it, it's just not rendering the interwiki at all. the bullet on the gazeteer is the bullet that would be there anyway [22:36:13] not sure how this was triggeref