[01:45:22] Could we pretty please get a Phab admin to update the form so people stop doing this lol? [01:45:33] Also on an unrelated note [01:46:19] @cosmicalpha regarding the early closure bug, do we intent to also mass undelete all those wikis? [02:17:31] It's hard to figure out which were undeleted early [02:17:45] If a wiki wants to request undeletion through RfRW though, it'll of course be considered [03:10:14] Undeletion is broken as well but I'm working on fixing that, but yeah if requested can but we don't know which ones. [03:16:33] It keeps you bussy huh? [03:26:37] Hey yeah [03:26:58] @Stewards can someone please try undeleting a wiki now? [07:52:20] might be easier for you to request Phorge admin that waiting lol [07:54:52] I'd support giving the trusted contributors group permission to do this [07:55:13] if only it wasn't possible to give yourself access to new security tasks this way [07:56:28] It is not [07:56:41] Phab admin is not powerful [07:56:54] Normal phab admin can't override visibility policies [07:57:13] even in the Maniphest templates? [07:57:33] @bluemoon0332 oh new you could be changing the form [07:57:33] you can't like mess around with the security form to make new tasks public? [07:57:41] That would be possible [07:57:52] You can't change anything you can't see [07:57:59] I don't think there's a risk there [07:58:05] It's heavily auditable [07:58:43] Phab admin would require NDA because Phab had a CU equivalent [07:59:15] Phab has quite a good security model though [07:59:47] You could easily give people access to disable users (like CVT / Stewards) too [08:00:38] maybe CA could have a look at that one day [08:01:09] The latter would take seconds to do [08:01:21] It's literally a config variable [08:10:58] But we have an extension called "Admin manage objects" now that I remember! [08:11:20] The description says "Allow admins to change the visibility of objects they have no access to" [08:11:37] so while that may be true on vanilla, it is not here [08:11:38] I created that extension [08:11:57] It only works for files though [08:12:26] hmm, maybe then it is not so much of a risk [08:13:02] also, looking @ your pr rn [08:13:19] while having breakfast on the computer! [08:13:25] living the good life [08:13:29] Yeah I didn't feel comfortable expanding to tasks, even though as you can tell in the name my original intent was to but it was more helpful for files anyway [08:13:34] Nice thanks! [08:13:40] Hey [08:15:11] <.labster> britishmurderwiki is marked as deleted in WikiDiscover, but is online. I don't even know what's going on with that table. [08:16:21] [1/2] Not for me it isn't. [08:16:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1211587545037803540/image0.png?ex=65eebdd4&is=65dc48d4&hm=1effef76581dd7af068901715eecd43e821588476b426cd2bcd070db90ca11c5& [08:16:55] <.labster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1211587689464467578/image.png?ex=65eebdf7&is=65dc48f7&hm=358c07d9c6576c2bd3e4889d033041931d76b82d9cbd4dfd4fff968d0d50cc9b& [08:18:49] [1/2] Definitely not for me lol, I even reloaded like 30 times and it never loaded [08:18:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1211588168403390486/image0.jpg?ex=65eebe69&is=65dc4969&hm=568e7985e7cbb046755a30211433ed0c63e2317a60e9646aece808a87f53ef62& [08:19:55] oh I seriously sware I fix one issue and 10 more pop up! [08:21:09] It half-loads when I go to /wiki/Main_Page (without any style) but going to any other page and it is "Wiki deleted" again... [08:22:55] <.labster> supposedly this wiki was created Feburary 6 [09:20:27] Hi, what's blocking https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5481 ? [10:03:30] also doesn't load for me [10:05:10] Nothing i will get to it tomorrow if no one else does [10:18:03] Thanks for the review @bluemoon0332 I'll probably deploy tomorrow [10:18:44] I have to update the to the namespaced class for the IRCFeedFormatter in config or I'd do tonight. [10:19:22] maybe I used too many words though, should have just written LGTM 😂 [10:26:33] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/GlobalSettings.php#L179 I can make a companion PR for that [14:09:41] oh, was that resolved? [17:25:18] I tried a fix today [17:25:25] well yesterday [19:21:42] Yeah may be a good idea [19:22:00] Although it’s a bit of a one off, would likely come up again I just don’t know how often [19:22:22] also I filed https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11909 [19:22:56] yeah but I don't know if there would be possible shenanigans with the security issues form [19:23:07] that's way I said "I'd" [19:23:35] Hey that’s me! Lol [19:24:21] Not very familiar with Phorge administration so [19:24:25] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:24:29] I kind of am [19:24:43] recently set up my own Phorge VM to see what it is like [19:25:06] did you know it even has a chat server? [19:25:58] Nope [19:26:09] I barely know why we use Diffusion [19:26:19] Diffusion is kind of weird [19:26:32] I thought you could use it for Git hosting but doesn't look like it [19:26:50] It just seems to mirror GitHub [19:26:55] It seems you're meant to use it as a mirror, and to integrate your repository with Phorge's commit audit features [19:27:01] Which is annoying as hell sometimes [19:27:17] Cause it shows on the homepage with maniphest stuf [19:27:22] We don't do that because we have Pull requests of course [19:27:52] It is meant for the "sharing Git patches over email" workflow [19:28:02] So not really meant for us [19:29:09] Yup [19:31:29] Anyways I spent a good amount of my day with mediawiki dev thinking brewing in the back of my head lol [19:32:06] Way more fun then logs [19:48:09] [1/2] can't get these kinds of badges on Miraheze's phorge, can you? [19:48:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1211761636239613962/image.png?ex=65ef5ff7&is=65dceaf7&hm=137770b58961df112ffefde8bf93891512f0d2be6b66696c949708d4fd94f212& [19:48:17] If I ever get a job I'm creating these badges [19:49:20] :salute: [20:55:27] cia malicious compliance [21:15:14] yep, remembered reading some kind of CIA guide for being basically a worker who just sabotaged their company constantly on Wikipedia [21:15:26] I was trying to find it to get some more inspiration for badges [21:18:02] That first badge should be a Nineteen Eighty-Four joke [21:18:11] it is! [21:18:30] Huh [21:18:37] a very famous phrase from a certain character who I won't spoil [21:18:46] if by some miracle you never read the book [21:18:49] I’ve read the book it’s just been a while [21:19:23] On one server I act as wiki staff we actually have a tradition of one of the admins reading a page of the book at the start of every meeting LMAO [21:37:36] And we wonder why players claim staff abuse [21:37:49] Anyways [[Tech:Projects]] may need updating [21:37:50]

[21:38:05] I think RSSL is done and import is the the focus [21:38:15] not quite [21:38:41] Well maybe at least move to in progress [21:38:51] I'm having some problems, namely the automatic certificate generation is not yet quite figured out, and I don't know how to approach the NS checks just yet [21:39:19] thinking of using some client WHOIS library, but I didn't find one I fully liked just yet [21:39:41] Mmmm yes I very understand [21:39:46] most of them are quite old (last commit almost a decade ago), not that many to choose from [21:39:49] Lol [21:39:53] Wow [21:41:05] MediaWiki 1.40 is gone!!! https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T11809#238523 [21:41:27] good riddance [21:42:26] don't worry, with time you'll memorize all the buzzwords [21:43:04] Normally I’m the one on the side of saying the buzzwords lol [21:43:13] Outside of talking to other devs [21:47:39] Me trying to write an essay while my brain is going off thinking how a Theme Designer extensions may work [21:47:57] Bro shut up and help me finish please you can learn PHP later [21:48:01] Lol [21:48:45] Very relatable [21:51:04] Im not sure if the fact I don’t know PHP makes this better or worse [21:51:44] hardest part of coding never tends to be the actual coding for me [21:52:04] but the figuring out how to do stuff and tie things together [21:52:18] so not knowing PHP should not be a problem [21:52:26] as long as you have the basics, that is [21:52:48] I’ve been thinking if the special page would just be a wrapper to making edits to a MediaWiki: page or if it would be stored in like the database and loaded via a hook or smt. Former makes for easy logging but if it’s manually edited it can fuck up shit because it may not be able to read it properly. [21:53:20] also preferably the theming would be made in a way it would look good on all skins [21:53:31] Which can be its own can of worms [21:53:40] And then there’s how to handle a preview [21:54:04] every skin is it's own world, stick to one or you're going to regret it [21:54:33] :cryingpomni: [21:54:48] Technology is great [21:55:05] Maybe that’s the real reason fandom removed all skins but one [21:55:14] very likely [21:55:23] So they don’t have to deal with this shit for theme editor [21:57:56] Im gonna try to get back to work and keep this in the bad of my head [21:58:18] Since it would definitely be nice to get working if possible [23:33:33] @bluemoon0332 FYI I finally got around to fixing the CI on 1.41, it is no longer experimental, 1.40 was dropped and finally got it passing on all extensions except RequestSSL and SpriteSheet which just didn't get to yet. [23:37:53] Do we really want to maintain SpriteSheet? [23:37:57] It hasn't worked since 1.38 [23:38:11] I would be more than happy with dropping it [23:38:28] depends on use I guess [23:39:39] well, if it's been broken since 1.38, I'm guessing no one's really using it 😛 [23:40:07] It worked on 1.39 for sure [23:40:16] I remember testing it [23:43:21] Is there a way of seeing what/how many wikis use an extension? [23:43:31] And red CA still looks weird lmao [23:51:48] <.labster> Should I make a Special:ExtensionStats page? [23:52:46] could [23:53:15] how complex would that be code wise [23:54:00] iirc, there's already a magic word which displays how many wikis use a template [23:54:15] huh [23:54:26] Documented? [23:54:42] Not documented but it's somewhere in Special:Version [23:55:28] <.labster> {{YOURMOM:Extension:SpriteSheet|LASTNIGHT}} [23:55:51] And I thought I was the teenager