[00:21:00] I think the concept is sound. The challenge is deciding what are the base templates that should be loaded. Obviously infoboxes are the leading desired template, but there are so many variants of infoboxes. Country and person seem like typical requests, but maybe others? Like person variants for game characters and their capabilities? [00:21:44] Or something that helps crats learn to make their own [00:22:04] Also blue green jph looks funky(danke you for your service) [00:25:27] @agentisai mind if I update [[Help center]] with Phab=>Phorge? [00:25:28]

[00:27:11] Not sure how to update the translation part though [00:32:24] ultimately any preloaded boxes should be examples that make it trivial for wiki operators to adapt to their own needs [00:32:53] enough to cater to a very broad use case/multiple styles but not try to be everything really, just functional [00:35:43] [1/2] yeah, an example of what Fandom includes: [00:35:44] [2/2] https://starter.fandom.com/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 [00:37:46] Oh they have a starter wiki [00:40:19] Yup [01:26:22] [1/4] The most commonly used boxes are the main {infobox}, {navbox} (including the {navbar}), {Documentation} and {sidebar}. [01:26:22] [2/4] For further boxes I think it depends on what is mostly used. As @jph2 already mentioned, the person and country infoboxes are likely the most used. As well as games. [01:26:22] [3/4] If we want to provide a suite of this, we need to make them as simple as possible, including a switch with different colours, so that they can choose how it looks like. I can see if I can make that possible. [01:26:23] [4/4] The biggest problem always are the CSS [01:34:58] [1/2] I am not really into css yet. I am learning, bit by bit. [01:34:58] [2/2] But if a {{{1}}}/span can be used, and the editor could choose what colours he/she wants. That would save us loads of time. [01:43:36] Pretty sure you can do parameters in style= yes [01:52:55] Me reading the FSSLC Blog post and remembering hearing about the Green Drive issues way back when [01:53:05] https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-yes-thats-it-that-right-there-omg-that-thats-what-i-mean-gif-17579879 [01:57:26] Still don’t know much bout what happened with the Miraheze Foundation [02:16:09] It'll be dissolved [02:16:33] Since it didn't really advance too much (I don't know if it has an EIN or bank account), I don't think it'll be too hard [13:22:35] Yes, you can use parameters in style= statements just like you suggest. You could also set a default values so it'll work right out of the box. [13:28:49] Thanks [13:52:40] [1/2] I meant [13:52:41] [2/2] > Miraheze Foundation, had hit rough waters due to a big misfire by a Director. [13:53:05] Also reminds me, did WikiTide have its own RFC on the merger or was it a board choice? [14:08:14] Since the majority of the community splintered off Miraheze, no one raised concerns with a re-merger [14:08:47] So there was consultation got it [14:45:30] How does one store files in MySQL? [14:46:03] Why [14:49:54] @pixldev [14:50:24] He's trying to set up an own wikiserver to host a wiki on [14:50:33] For testing I believe [14:51:03] No actually I was looking at the docs for Phorge [14:51:24] Ohw hahah [14:51:33] MediaWiki stores files in a directory or in MH’s case a app like Swift [14:51:35] Okay, it's a terrible idea but you store it in a binary safe format as a blob [14:51:37] Have you given up on that? [14:51:57] Like I don't advise doing it unless there's a good reason [14:52:40] I’ve actually set up a test instance before but I’m [14:52:48] I may have uh [14:52:51] Poofed [14:53:37] Kids don’t run chown -R randomly [14:53:48] Ooh. Günter Steiner is co presenter for German Television. Saw him just from the Cars camera 😄 [14:53:49] Or fuck composer to hell [14:54:12] Is my laziness and lack of sysadmin experience a good reason? [14:54:22] No [14:54:29] Also I shutter to think of how Much the database size would go up storing files [14:54:35] That's a reason to avoid it [14:55:59] My VPS is already a mess so :p. But yeah If I do wanna self host phorge I’ll do it the “proper”way [14:56:56] Side note is it just me or does we.phorge.it not have docs on most of the included apps [15:02:13] It should have docs [15:02:51] They have them on install and config stuff but I can’t seem to find the ones on the apps [15:05:29] what do you mean by proper? [15:06:24] cause a proper installation of phorge is relative, depends on how fancy you want to get [15:08:17] to me proper means reverse proxies, load balancers, a dedicated file storage service like Swift or S3, a MariaDB Galera cluster, blah blah blah [15:08:23] which is a bit complex [15:11:43] hmm, does phorge even support horizontal scaling anyway? [15:40:53] Phabricator documentation is more extensive (and you'll find more searching google for how to do x on phab) and it will work for phorge [16:10:47] Ya think [16:10:52] Oh yeah [21:13:19] I love how snarky and self deprecating Phabricator’s home page is [21:19:53] Huh? [21:26:26] [1/5] ## Chat Channels [21:26:26] [2/5] * Chat with coworkers [21:26:26] [3/5] * about work [21:26:27] [4/5] * Like Slack, but nowhere near as good. [21:26:27] [5/5] * Seriously, Slack is way better [21:41:16] Right [21:41:24] You could probably find better snark [21:41:29] Phab in humour mode is funny [21:41:33] Yeah [21:41:58] Review others code with Differential, because they can’t be trusted [21:41:59] can't say I'd use phab to chat [21:42:17] Gently place bad code back in the authors queue [21:43:17] Unlike me, who doesn't make silly mistakes that inadvertendly bring down a major feature from our service (https://github.com/miraheze/RequestSSL/commit/157cec6e478119425f1606563242a5f5f12d6453) 😉 [21:43:27] It's chat feature is pretty poor [21:44:03] You haven't broke the CreateWiki database for a few minutes [21:44:59] but I did stop RequestSSL requests from being handled [21:45:16] which, given we now tell everyone to use that, well, not good [21:45:29] not as critical as breaking CreateWiki tho [21:46:43] Ye you still get a sticker [21:47:00] when are we making phorge badges for this??? [21:47:12] OS for phorge admin, will create a lot of silly badges [21:47:16] I'm still waiting for the miraheze stocks [21:50:17] We had actual stickers at one point [21:50:40] Pretty sure @southparkfan took some merch to FOSSDEM one year [21:50:55] We should genuinely do some but then it's expensive [21:51:13] It's actually quite expensive to get merch unless you get a lot of it [21:52:18] MH on FOSSDEM? [21:52:28] that must have been centuries ago [21:52:38] A fair while back [21:52:45] I keep saying I'll go to fossdem one year [21:52:58] Not this year, the uk economy sucks too much [21:53:45] I read this as Securities stocks [21:53:47] Shares [21:58:50] What it look like [21:59:04] No idea [22:03:17] I was just trying a play on the wp village stocks tbh [22:05:53] man I forgot about these pages on WP [22:06:14] I used to search for these humorous pages on WP all the time for a quick laugh [22:06:48] I still do sometimes [22:06:55] Or just read policy if I’m bored [22:07:07] Wiki tech and Mediawikiwiki are also good [22:07:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars and the ones about the rogue admins and all the other cabals used to be pretty funny to me