[09:29:01] @bluemoon0332 Do you still want to be notified with logouts? the last few days have been crazy actually. Constantly be logged out. [11:07:57] my impression at this point is that centralauth is kinda crumbling at this point and it's not likely to get better until a following mediawiki update [14:31:36] It's even somewhat messed up on the WMF these days so yeah that is pretty much the case. Browser changes are really messing it up... [14:32:27] Sigh 😭 [14:32:33] Thanks for replying [15:36:08] I guess SUL2's death will be coming pretty soon [15:39:52] Ye [15:42:37] Then what? [15:43:39] then either SUL3 happens or we will meet a fate worse than death i.e: logins will break completely [15:44:55] Chrome is known to be going to break completely very soon for example: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T345249#9672556 [15:48:39] And if B? [15:48:52] well [15:49:10] we don't have any plans for the latter [15:49:25] Early retirement [15:49:47] We're kind of hoping someone at the WMF willing to do SUL3 in CentralAuth will save us from this [15:51:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1228009431153774653/image0.jpg?ex=662a7be7&is=661806e7&hm=f003bb8b5efcd8444fb339ae02f909b4a493b847e5931d35d8ef7a99da03895d& [15:55:52] @rodejong are you using Chrome/Chromium btw? [15:57:39] I'll look at getting us on the Chrome 3rd-party cookie exception list [15:58:22] That’s a thing? [15:58:26] yep [15:58:33] Helpful [15:58:37] the WMF did it in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T359957 [15:59:09] since we also aren't using these cookies for ads or tracking chances are I'll be able to get us an exception, but no promises [15:59:34] all that does is just give us until 2025 to get rid of third party cookies, but it could help [16:00:38] if someone here is facing the logouts, https://third-party-cookies.glitch.me/detect.html will tell you if you have third party cookies disabled btw [16:01:45] ^ please do let me know what that website says if you're using Chrome and have gotten logout at random [17:59:13] what exactly is the situation with the job queue right now? we're still having to manually purge pages and are waiting for some translation moves to finish and I think the queue is just dropping the jobs. not sure if offering specific cases of issues would help or if it's more a case of "I'm working on it" [18:01:09] @cosmicalpha since you seem to be the most knowledgeable about kaftka and it’s kinks, would you mind giving a word here? [18:01:21] Ty :nomChocoStrawberry: [18:02:58] I also am not sure if the "jobs" key under the stats API will just always show up as 0 if the queue is in a nonstandard config, or if that's a sign it's actually broken [18:03:38] it is not possible for the Kafka JobQueue to return information to the wiki regarding which jobs are queued [18:03:44] that is expected right now [18:04:01] ah, that's kind of what I expected, but figured it was worth mentioning [18:15:09] We're trying to fix it showing 0 too [19:13:55] Confirmed [19:23:08] no third party cookies found