[00:46:56] @cosmicalpha I don't have a background in tech, but I have gotten pretty familiar with MediaWiki. If there are any tasks that you need done that don't require a lot of background knowledge, simply time, let me know. I'd love to help, even if that is just freeing those who know what they're doing up. 😃 [00:50:00] ditto although i have more limited time [05:03:00] This latest announcement feels like deja vu from last summer. Did the recent SRE departure stem from the ongoing rebranding-related drama, or something unrelated? [07:04:22] Not exactly the same as we aren't quite in such need as last time but we are in need but I don't plan on going anywhere and I can do the essential stuff in the meantime until/if we get someone else to help more also. [07:05:06] But it was related to the rebrand discussion [07:09:06] I will definitely let you know if there is something you can help with. I wonder if we should have some sort of manual (maybe webhook?) feed for phorge tasks that should be easy to do PRs for for helping with volunteering in that regard, which you wouldn't believe how helpful that could be also. [10:11:00] It would probably help a lot for people to dip their toes in and get started in that branch, to have something like that I imagine [10:23:46] Looks like logging in to Phorge is impossible to some users including myself https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1232318069100249149/1232318069100249149 [10:25:11] (Wasn't sure which role to ping there) [14:14:31] Pretty much, yeah. [15:52:59] @bluemoon0332 we really should look at WikiTide / Miraheze sponsored stuff [15:53:18] I have some raspberry pi zeros available for volunteers at cost of postage [15:58:36] 👀 [16:19:56] @bluemoon0332 you can have one [16:20:23] I don't have much use for one of those currently unfortunately [16:20:37] unless you have some ideas? [16:23:09] @bluemoon0332 play with shit [20:12:35] posting to inform SRE, verityoffaith is admin and bcrat but can't seem to modify https://rainworldmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki [20:15:55] Sure they aint just logged out? [20:16:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233149553210032251/MxLjN8G.png?ex=662c0b84&is=662aba04&hm=7c2519d303bc34e03877289f90246d458e25e220a21f6e078fa429852b3064ea& [20:16:59] I have no idea [20:17:10] [1/2] side note i love these log summerys [20:17:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233149829329326152/KbngFMM.png?ex=662c0bc6&is=662aba46&hm=b306c00fe35e45b16c54ca55dbba073565af254f62a17f80eaf4f2922bf89223& [20:18:06] whats the exact username [20:24:46] @verityoffaith [20:25:00] trying to not ping people, especially not CA today [20:25:21] oh so you are stardustshimmers [20:25:26] no [20:25:33] not you you verity you [20:25:34] unaffiliated [20:26:06] pix you asked who needed help so I ping the person [20:26:44] yes i know [20:26:47] thank you [20:26:59] I meant I was referring to verity when I said 'you' [20:27:06] which in hindisght [20:27:09] yea confusign [20:29:58] VerityofFaith: Apologies for the ping per your bio. If this issue is still persisting, please confirm you are logged into the correct account and if it still don't work ping me. [20:30:06] As I can't see anything wrong [20:47:08] >:3 [20:47:27] yes that’s me [20:47:34] reminds me of when i actually edited my own wiki [20:47:40] i hate css i hate css i hate css [20:48:00] the ping was useful in this case so i don’t mind [20:48:12] it’s mostly to deter people from chain pinging me 5 times in the same conversation [20:48:22] whistles [20:48:28] :squint: [20:48:42] anyway what did you change [20:48:47] what should i be seeing now? [20:48:48] listen i got borderline dementia i mean ADHD [20:49:02] nothing, im a wiki creator I don't have global rights [20:49:09] I looked at the logs and settings [20:49:11] rip okay [20:49:15] nothing looks wrong [20:49:18] (also 🤝 on ADHD) [20:49:21] yeah i’m not sure [20:49:26] can you try again? [20:49:33] may have been logged out [20:49:34] what's the problem? unable to change ManageWiki? [20:49:37] nothing’s changed since i last looked [20:49:38] ja [20:49:40] i am logged in [20:49:43] huh [20:49:48] all grayed out and locked [20:50:05] can you check if bureau group has managewiki permission [20:50:38] [1/2] um [20:50:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233158250606886962/image.png?ex=662c139d&is=662ac21d&hm=e3f7bcc32e6599dd010e121e0eafbd69625bc07621dd759964800ab1f6ae8dff& [20:50:43] that's even stranger then [20:50:48] :ThinkerMH: [20:50:48] https://rainworldmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/permissions/bureaucrat [20:50:57] so you can edit that? [20:50:59] yes [20:51:02] but not the core settings [20:51:03] what page exactly is locked? [20:51:04] core? [20:51:10] yeah [20:51:25] core settings shows me the visitor view apparently, according to m3w [20:51:48] @orduin can you please check out https://rainworldmods.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki to see if you can edit it using your awesome steward powers? [20:51:53] to narrow the issue [20:52:17] yello owen [20:52:37] [1/3] actually i should maybe show what i see in core settings [20:52:37] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233158750563598346/Screenshot_2024-04-24_215831.png?ex=662c1415&is=662ac295&hm=608d3f54ab25f8518982f183aa2bbfe84e7bd0b5a88313640050620810386abc& [20:52:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233158750844620820/Screenshot_2024-04-24_215836.png?ex=662c1415&is=662ac295&hm=220a1839b220226434675f143b0d3f01d008dde067deea2bbc3ae734d6dfd6e6& [20:52:59] lol [20:53:10] I can edit it, but that looks fairly normal [20:53:11] That looks correct. [20:53:15] hm [20:53:18] yeah this is right [20:53:18] greyed out settings are restricted for everyone [20:53:19] in core [20:53:24] ah aight [20:53:31] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1233158976774869052/kqmibyI.png?ex=662c144b&is=662ac2cb&hm=fffc5fef453548ab19f9413e58965679baff48cbdd4c4872e7141f8fdb254a45& [20:53:34] for me [20:53:45] aight, sorry bout that [20:53:51] to change them you should make requests to stewards or sre, such as data base name [20:54:26] this is normal [20:54:32] this started largely because i asked about the cache [20:54:40] indeed some settings can only be changed with restricted access [20:54:41] I suggest to add some kind of note under these settings maybe, in ManageWiki [20:54:44] m3w brought up multipurge [20:55:00] should be able to alter most of those as bc though [20:55:02] Yep, anything pertaining to your DB, cluster, etc on core are SRE/steward affairs. [20:55:10] gotcha [20:55:37] i still don't really know what is tbh. like is it an extension i can enable. is it a setting i can ask a steward to change. what is it [20:55:54] supposedly it'd fix the cache issues i've been having with images [20:55:59] nah [20:56:12] Mira doesn't have such extension [20:56:14] multipurge is a global extension for our new cloudflare thing [20:56:18] ah i see [20:56:34] hm [20:56:46] ah, not mediawiki [20:57:30] Well, kinda mediawiki [20:57:39] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MultiPurge [20:57:58] case sentive urls my behated [20:58:32] Yuppers. I haven't been keeping up with whether that's installed by default now/available to local wikis [20:58:35] should be added on our [[Extensions]] list as global? [20:58:36]

[21:01:15] so it is an extension i can add? [21:01:20] install? not sure how this works [21:01:20] nah its not a local thing [21:01:38] think of it more like CentralAuth [21:01:43] ya [21:02:35] [1/2] global means it's already there for all wikis [21:02:35] [2/2] also only SRE can install extensions, admins just can enable/disable (+ stewards enabling restricted ones) [21:03:20] :ThinkerMH: okay if it is there, then where would i go to use it? [21:03:24] enable is the word i use [21:03:36] you don't need to worry about MultiPurge [21:03:41] it's not something used by users [21:03:47] ah, alright [21:03:53] its there to make sure things worth now that we use cloudflare [21:11:45] what? what are you talking about, users should be able to use it to force clear the cache [21:11:57] that's what its for [21:12:02] well yea [21:12:17] but not its own special page is what i mean [21:12:34] users shouldn't realize theres an extension doing it [21:12:38] its supposed to show up either in the header tabs or in a dropdown menu [21:13:11] It's supposed to make the normal purge feature work with cloudflare [22:11:50] It shows up as a different button [22:11:56] But yes [22:12:27] Are you thinking of PurgeResources? [22:25:42] No, I posted a screenshot from another wiki that I assist