[03:52:14] <BlankEclair>	 why is this not "default"? https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/749ec986e608409715a3ca0d10f0a68904619925/LocalSettings.php#L1343
[04:28:03] <BlankEclair>	 does cloudflare do caching on its side or is caching still only done by varnish + mediawiki + browser?
[05:57:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> cloudflare does caching
[09:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/10] ANNOUNCEMENT
[09:23:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/10] https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org/thread/2BOGEETG77IEYA5JUMGDMTLHFVAFFRJA/
[09:23:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/10] MediaWiki 1.40 is End of Life
[09:23:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [4/10] Sam Reed @ 28 Jun 2024 8:11 a.m.
[09:23:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [5/10] As per the MediaWiki version lifecycle[1], I would like to announce the formal end of life (EOL) of MediaWiki 1.38 as of today, Friday June 28, 2024.
[09:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [6/10] 1.40.4 is expected to be the last release for this branch.
[09:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [7/10] This means that MediaWiki 1.40 will no longer receive maintenance or security backports. It is therefore strongly discouraged that you continue to use it.
[09:23:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [8/10] It is recommended to upgrade either to MediaWiki 1.41, which will be supported until December 2024, or 1.42, which will be supported until June 2025.
[09:23:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [9/10] Thanks!
[09:23:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [10/10] [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle
[09:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> aren't we 1.41
[09:24:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> probably the season to begin testing on 1.42
[09:31:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Yeah. Just a FYI
[09:32:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> You all need to help us test
[09:42:12] <Guest97>	 Hi. When I establish an interwiki link that's supposed to change the article's language (I mean putting [[language prefix:page name]] on the page), the language does display in the language selection menu but when I click on it it just redirects me to the main page of the other language wiki instead of the article. What could the problem be?
[09:43:34] <BlankEclair>	 example page?
[09:44:33] <Guest97>	 What do you mean
[09:45:26] <BlankEclair>	 can you give a link to a page where this happens?
[09:45:59] <Guest97>	 https://ziomki.miraheze.org/wiki/Flaga_Ziomk%C3%B3w
[09:50:00] <BlankEclair>	 Guest97: you're missing $1 at the end of your custom interwiki prefixes
[09:50:24] <Guest97>	 Oh, alright. I'll try to fix that. Thanks
[09:58:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> maybe I'll try to test some extensions in July
[09:58:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I can't guarantee, I'm still on a wiki break, largely
[12:56:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> We are going to 1.42 next week tentatively
[12:58:12] <BlankEclair>	 yay
[18:02:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honglan233> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1256671205398806620/Screenshot_20240630_020225_com.microsoft.emmx.png?ex=66819dc3&is=66804c43&hm=3419e82d9c02070e54d7831c2841013f23059c54f3938e748c3ab4d933c5a0d8&
[18:03:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honglan233> [[mh:gengbaike:special:log]]
[18:03:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://gengbaike.miraheze.org/wiki/special:log>
[18:03:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honglan233> I move 傀儡调查 to 梗百科:傀儡调查
[18:03:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honglan233> and then the page eerily disappeared
[18:03:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <honglan233> where is my page???
[18:17:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to honglan233> The page at the desination?
[18:17:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> might just be something with the db, like, that has happened once with the Cookie Run Kingdom Wiki if I remember correctly
[18:18:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> anyway gonna go to sleep right now, and just reminding to look at the investigation task at Phorge
[18:22:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to rhinosf1> On testwiki?
[18:23:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to solodayheavenofficial> Beta
[18:23:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial> Yeah ik I mean mirabeta testwiki
[18:32:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ye
[19:44:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial> https://thehackernews.com/2022/01/german-court-rules-websites-embedding.html?m=1
[19:44:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial> Should Miraheze stop allowing Google Fonts?
[19:45:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> lol
[19:45:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> germany be crazy
[19:46:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Well we could stop using it on official wikis if needed but I think it falls under the admins domain since you can other other stuff that violates GDPR already to JS and CSS
[19:46:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> The article isn't very clear, but it sounds like they didn't have a cookie notice
[19:47:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> or an "opt out" which seems to be the issue, since its perfectly fine to send someones IP address to google if they have accepted the cookie notice
[19:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <adr_furret, replying to solodayheavenofficial> [1/2] this was in 2022
[19:49:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <adr_furret, replying to solodayheavenofficial> [2/2] also "transferring a user's personal data — i.e., IP address — to Google" just sounds like its describing a web request to google which happens to necessarily include the ip in request headers
[19:53:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to originalauthority> Yeah but you'd have to get consent before loading the font so the site appearance would depend on the user's consent
[19:53:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to adr_furret> I know
[19:53:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to pixldev> Yeah but we deliberately added Google Fonts to CSP
[19:58:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Fandom still sets cookies interestingly even if you decline lol so meh
[19:59:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> That’s legal?
[20:01:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to originalauthority> Not tracking cookies though
[20:01:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial> Only essential ones
[20:02:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> No
[20:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Well maybe
[20:02:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to solodayheavenofficial> no they're also setting advertising cookies
[20:02:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> loopholes
[20:03:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> disguised as essential?
[20:06:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial, replying to originalauthority> oh
[20:06:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <solodayheavenofficial> Well someone should report them idfk
[20:06:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to originalauthority> hence isolation and/or a cookie manager
[20:08:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> uBlock blocks all the requests anyway so they can't be sent to their destination so meh
[20:17:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to solodayheavenofficial> Data regulators are only interested in big fish
[20:17:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Meta/Google/Microsoft/Apple
[22:31:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr, replying to originalauthority> true :p
[22:31:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> dunno what I'd do without ubo
[22:31:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I guess take the jump to umatrix at that point