[00:51:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to aaronliu> because it exists on Wikipedia
[02:49:07] <BlankEclair>	 what version or commit of phorge is miraheze running? i'm trying to debug a minor bug, and i want to know whether or not it's upstream or miraheze-specific (somehow)
[02:56:59] <MacFan4000>	 @Infrastructure Specialists ^ (will give a commit/version in config UI)
[03:01:18] <BlankEclair>	 (also, aphront version please--forgot to mention it (also available on /config/))
[03:05:03] <BlankEclair>	 (oops, i meant arcanist)
[09:57:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Hey I am not really sure about where I can find about it through googling, but I do want to know on how I am able to update the wiki's looks with CSS?
[09:59:10] <BlankEclair>	 vinskitakahashi: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:CSS
[10:02:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to vinskitakahashi> [1/4] in short: CSS is applied via - MediaWiki:Common.css page, main place, affects the wiki no matter what, except for mobile mode
[10:02:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to vinskitakahashi> [2/4] - skin specific pages, for example for Vector skin it's MediaWiki:Vector.css
[10:02:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to vinskitakahashi> [3/4] - MediaWiki:Mobile.css for mobile mode, if your wiki uses MobileFrontend extension (enabled by default on Miraheze)
[10:02:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to vinskitakahashi> [4/4] the process of modifying wiki CSS is usually poking around page's code w/ browser's element inspector tool, in some cases you might nick a peace of code from another wiki (still requires some sensible grasp and skin compatibility)
[10:03:26] <BlankEclair>	 (it can also be applied by gadgets--i use them to have CSS applied on both desktop and mobile mode)
[10:06:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] I have some experience regarding to CSS as I am currently working on website for my team page. I have been looking into creating the wiki as for the people add stuff about it.
[10:06:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] I will have to say that I only been vanilla when it comes with coding stuff regarding website development, never really used other ones like Mustache, Animate.css, etc etc.
[10:07:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's okay, I don't know too fancy CSS myself but was able to give nicer look to some wikis
[10:08:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> same goes for JS btw - Common.js etc
[10:09:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Miraheze doesn't moderate JS like Fandom, users are free modifying their wikis w/ it
[10:10:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> there is also personal CSS/JS which works only for your account, can be used for testing - User:yournamehere/common.css, and so on
[10:11:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Ic.. I am currently looking around the settings I have and it's a bit confusing to where the most stuff are as it's been seperated left and right, which is mostly my fault because I don't edit wikis at all. 😅
[10:11:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you mean sidebars?
[10:12:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Yeah sidebars, there's also other stuff that you need to get access to, which I haven't found much about, yet
[10:12:33] <BlankEclair>	 i assume you're using the vector-2022 skin
[10:12:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi, replying to BlankEclair> At the moment, yes.
[10:13:00] <BlankEclair>	 vector has them all on the left side (aside from a few things lol)
[10:13:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you aren't admin of your wiki, or you just looking around Meta?
[10:13:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I am looking at my own wiki at the moment.
[10:13:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> old vector ^
[10:14:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> you aren't able to change wiki settings/can't see admin sidebar? re access
[10:29:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> To pester you a lil, where do I find  MediaWiki:Common.css? @theoneandonlylegroom
[10:29:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> unless its something I have to download.
[10:31:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> by default these pages don't exist and have to be created
[10:31:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> page name is what follows `/wiki/` in URL
[10:31:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ....miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css
[10:33:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Ah.
[10:33:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> This is where I post the CSS content?
[10:33:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah
[10:35:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Economy at finest.
[10:35:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> Thanks
[10:35:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> np :pupCoffeeMH:
[10:39:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Is it cool with you if I ping you for able doing some changes about the wiki?
[10:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] no need to ping as we are all volunteering here equally, if I won't be able to check/help someone else will
[10:41:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] also suggest to use #general or #support
[10:41:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <vinskitakahashi> I see I see
[21:41:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/3] This support thread is going on since 30th may
[21:41:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/3] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1245827270472630272
[21:41:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/3] @cosmicalpha Please address this, he has been patiently pinging you!