[01:27:50] <BlankEclair>	 can someone like get to https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12356?
[03:08:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> I mean
[03:08:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> at least it isn’t this godforsaken thing https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:I18n-js/code.js
[03:08:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> not JS
[03:08:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> every script and extension on fandom and their dog needs it
[03:08:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> lmao
[03:08:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> unrelated
[03:08:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> but ture
[03:09:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I know I’m just saying proprietary code/logic
[03:09:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> can’t be as bad as that
[03:09:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> worst case of proprietary MW stuff I’ve seen (then again I might be stupid)
[03:10:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> this server needs a starboard
[03:11:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu> a:AU_twinklystars: starboard hype!1!
[03:11:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> yes
[03:11:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> nah
[03:11:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> we brought this up
[03:11:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> shot down
[03:11:22] <BlankEclair>	 :(
[03:11:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i do want smt like https://bash.wmcloud.org
[03:11:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> you’re just scared you’ll get on it
[03:11:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> lemme see
[03:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://bash.toolforge.org/top
[03:12:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> this
[03:12:53] <BlankEclair>	 is this a copy of bash.org or is it a wikimedia-oriented clone
[03:13:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [1/11] > <itai> found a bug in the english site 😐
[03:13:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [2/11] > <Angela> what's the problem?
[03:13:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [3/11] > <itai> can't tell :x
[03:13:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [4/11] > <Gentgeen> that makes it hard to fix
[03:13:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [5/11] > <Angela> itai: could you explain where the bug is?
[03:13:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [6/11] > <itai> the site isn't secured
[03:13:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [7/11] > <JeLuF> secured?
[03:13:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [8/11] > <itai> yes
[03:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [9/11] > <itai> un protected
[03:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [10/11] > <Angela> anyone can edit it?
[03:13:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu, replying to BlankEclair> [11/11] > <itai> yes
[03:13:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> bash.org dont load for me so
[03:13:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> yes
[03:14:43] <BlankEclair>	 it's irc quotes
[03:14:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu> from wikimedia
[03:15:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu> peeps
[03:15:06] <BlankEclair>	 bash.org appears to be quotes in general
[03:15:08] <BlankEclair>	 though it's down
[03:15:17] <BlankEclair>	 i'm surprised i couldn't get more info about it from the archiveteam wiki: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/IRC_Quotes
[03:15:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu> > <legoktm> ɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ɯoɹɟ ollǝɥ
[03:17:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> lmao
[03:18:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i do want that for miraheze though
[03:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i proposed adding a quote bot here
[03:18:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> shot down
[03:18:30] <BlankEclair>	 aw :(
[03:18:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> funny enough
[03:18:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> i swear i did not know this before
[03:18:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> waki is one of the main devs of the bot
[03:18:59] <BlankEclair>	 huh til
[03:19:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> its a kinda big one too
[03:19:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264059108806627401/F7mGsqu.png?ex=669c7e48&is=669b2cc8&hm=666bce5090dd037c4cd567b40ce0e5fc48caedf29425333d44171f78777c4be0&
[03:21:21] <BlankEclair>	 > <bvibber> " Change version number from '1.6alpha' to '1.6devel' so know-it-alls who bitch about how we're running alpha software can shut the fuck up"
[03:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aaronliu> ooh so that's why version number's -wmf-{{{number}}}
[03:41:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to BlankEclair> Thoroughly enjoyed this quote
[03:50:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> > Yes, what the world needs is another horribly confusingly named foundation. After we establish the MediaWiki Foundation, we can start work on the MikiWedia Foundation and the WediaMiki Foundation. ;-) -- MZMMcBride
[03:50:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> this is an amazing site
[03:52:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> might make a version for this server
[03:53:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I’d prob do it in static HTML though, anything web related involving dynamic content Fails More Than Usual™
[03:54:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> then again usual = every ten minutes so
[03:54:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> though with dynamic content I’d have to do PHP probably
[03:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and shudder SQL
[03:57:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] though that may just be me being only versed in ancient\* technology
[03:57:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] \*before 2010, I’m using Wix developer standards
[03:59:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> SQL isnt bad
[03:59:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> [1/2] it’s not bad, it’s just
[03:59:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> [2/2] problematic
[04:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> eh
[04:00:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> shoutout to http://www.eptoys.com/ btw
[04:01:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> it’s running on a completely custom built framework that’s been in operation since 2003ish and has barely changed since
[04:01:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> still on IIS 5
[04:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> honestly unsure how they haven’t been hacked yet
[04:02:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] this is the site in 2004
[04:02:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264069910129020928/IMG_2130.png?ex=669c8857&is=669b36d7&hm=50e24c1ab41e360b688390e6a76576e380e7e0e2ba158e7fc0d263b1b75694e8&
[04:02:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to groupnebula563_0765> (free IRL CTF challenge)
[04:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] this is the site 20 years later
[04:02:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264069985429491854/IMG_2131.png?ex=669c8869&is=669b36e9&hm=a69f135a510314557690b3123818be7bf9e74ffb2602d8c8557f1b998fed94c4&
[04:03:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> maybe they patch stuff in the background?
[04:03:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I mean I’d imagine so, it goes down for maintenance every so often
[04:03:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> still on IIS 5 though
[04:04:16] <BlankEclair>	 wow that site is old
[04:04:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> it’s something we have to use quite frequently to get photos off it for the wiki
[04:05:59] <BlankEclair>	 a porn site i found with a copyright date of 2009 is the oldest thing (of that nature) i saw
[04:06:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] they actually rearranged some stuff a bit ago
[04:06:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264070782456168468/IMG_2142.png?ex=669c8927&is=669b37a7&hm=2ca5baa5045140ec1bf745f4e525a23c2c536a9d24b3fe47faf81b96d5bcb914&
[04:06:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I’m guessing they’re going to replace the banner with a new logo thing at some point
[04:06:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> also this is all maintained by one developer
[04:07:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I would give you creds to log in but both of the wiki’s accounts are deactivated rn
[04:08:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> the site auto deactivates accounts if they don’t make orders within a specific period of time and since we’re not ordering anything we gotta email them every so often to get our accounts reactivated
[04:09:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> the closest I can get to a product page that doesn’t need you to log in is http://www.eptoys.com/english/stock.htm
[04:09:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> this is like discounted stuff
[04:11:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> though I don’t think they use that page too often anymore, all the items in there are from like 2005
[04:11:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to BlankEclair> oh
[04:12:06] <BlankEclair>	 it even includes a background image of bubbles
[04:12:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to groupnebula563_0765> it’s not uncommon in the chinafake world for company sites to be run on really old frameworks
[04:12:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> http://www.labotoys.com/ for instance
[04:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> first recorded capture on the wayback machine is 05 and it hasn’t changed since (aside from product selection)
[04:13:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> http://www.huixingtoys.com/EN/
[04:13:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> so many sites
[04:13:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> so many
[04:14:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> are still running on 15+ year old software
[04:14:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> they also often do maintenance while the sites are up
[04:14:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] which results in stuff like this
[04:14:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264073011133288510/IMG_4334.png?ex=669c8b3b&is=669b39bb&hm=eaec9966f66fdc8266095f86256d4d192ca3eb73d408be048e9eb72555a0b98d&
[04:17:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> was gonna discuss http://www.mktoys.com/ (they still have old products but they have updated the site itself)
[04:17:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] but uh
[04:17:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264073648533274654/IMG_4335.png?ex=669c8bd3&is=669b3a53&hm=b85534dd0ecc5a468bdb170b4cc688a0922bcf12c6ee3dcf3ca091d18936f184&
[04:17:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> everyone’s doing maintenance today
[04:18:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [1/2] tried to manually go to the home page and
[04:18:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264073858525433907/IMG_4336.png?ex=669c8c05&is=669b3a85&hm=9c8f959ec434ae8ef0f5eb6703083efde5de64f477c9416dcaabc84d92410148&
[04:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> their alternate domain that reads from the same database seems to work http://www.mktoys.cc:8088
[04:20:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> the cool(?) bit about MKToys is
[04:20:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> they have an api https://chinafake.miraheze.org/wiki/MKToys_API_Documentation
[04:22:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> anyways
[04:22:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> i think I’ve bored everyone here to death by talking about this so I’d beat best be off
[04:25:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to groupnebula563_0765> this is #tech man
[04:25:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> did you see my yaps
[04:26:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to pixldev> ah true
[04:26:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> WELL IN THAT CASE
[04:27:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> speak my brother in ya
[04:27:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> this one's another good one just because of how strange it is http://2btoy.com/en_index.asp
[04:28:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> might look relatively normal at first
[04:28:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> but
[04:28:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> the site it was originally built off of is still hiding in the server at http://2btoy.com/inc/ecpindex.asp
[04:30:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> there's also an attempted redesign of the site at http://2btoy.com/cindex.asp
[04:32:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> the chinese version of the original site is at http://2btoy.com/inc/cpindex.asp
[04:32:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and going to the english site from THERE takes you to THIS http://2btoy.com/eindex.asp
[04:51:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @originalauthority https://discord.com/channels/178359708581625856/935223464229470259/1264080449706262531
[12:09:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [1/2] Strange things are happening. I just got GIPBE and it doesn't seem to be able to automatically create a local account.
[12:09:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1264192571375095890/image.png?ex=669cfa94&is=669ba914&hm=7078f8cfe29ac3082fb1146560e26369fdae9c4bf25277859fca0b4f6dc67f90&
[12:15:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T316303 ?
[12:17:36] <BlankEclair>	 sounds plausible
[12:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Hm
[12:17:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Want me to make a local account for you
[12:19:29] <BlankEclair>	 wait you can do that?
[12:19:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Global admins now have the permission yeah
[12:20:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @suzuneu what’s the account and wiki
[12:20:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to pixldev> [[mh:backroom]]
[12:20:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <Wiki-Bot#2998> <https://backroom.miraheze.org/wiki/>
[12:21:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Your main?
[12:21:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> yes
[12:23:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Already a local account
[12:27:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> wait what
[12:27:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to pixldev> ty
[12:34:32] <BlankEclair>	 is certificate auto renew failing across the board?
[12:37:07] <BlankEclair>	 https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12227, hmm
[19:17:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> https://github.com/redbluegreenhat/HitCounters2 is finally working
[19:17:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> it has a special page for resetting the counter (if you have the required user right), usage of which is logged on-wiki, and a magic word for displaying the hit counter of the current page
[19:18:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> I still want to do some more stuff to it, but it's good enoughTM to have a mediawiki.org page for docs
[19:20:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to bluemoon0332> nice?
[19:20:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> I guess
[19:21:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bluemoon0332> maybe someone has a use for that, that's something the original doesn't have