[00:19:03] @agentisai we have an IA account? [00:20:54] We do [00:22:01] Huh [00:22:16] I’ve began a new program to upload each wiki individually to IA with images included [00:22:26] this’ll be the first time we back up images [00:22:36] Also any idea what that ajaxpoll.json in the groups was? [00:22:45] RIP private wikis [00:23:05] although its a smaller number we may be able to afford a smaller backup system [00:23:07] yeah, if we go down then RIP their images [00:23:13] Tape! [00:23:45] comprehensive backup system as planned out in the Plan of WikiTide is planned for 2025 [00:23:52] lots of upgrades already planned [00:24:04] The good Project 2025 [00:26:04] :TechnoGive: give the plan [00:26:31] it's several hundred pages of late night rants and plans [00:26:35] circa December 2023 [00:27:54] oh god, project 2025 [00:27:56] anyway [00:28:05] agentisai: an IA account or a collection [00:28:21] i wonder how many duplicate images are there [00:28:22] IA account because I don’t know how to get access to the wiki collection \:( [00:28:30] oh okay [00:28:34] we could ask wikiteam i guess [00:28:41] IRC is too hard [00:28:42] and perhaps have a miraheze-specific collection [00:28:44] bruh [00:28:55] if you really want, i can ask in a couple hours [00:30:06] wiki wowza [00:30:18] IA uh [00:30:26] I just gave up on them after they purged my account [00:30:36] oh? [00:30:48] Citing some failures [00:32:09] https://issuetracker.revi.xyz/P247 [00:32:29] i [00:32:31] ouch?? [00:32:57] That is the answer I've been given [00:33:17] And that basically eroded my trust on them :-p [00:34:15] how did they do that i wonder [00:34:33] Me as well [00:34:46] https://archive.org/details/@miraheze; this us? [00:35:58] i wonder if we should use zstd or xz for compression as well [00:36:15] Nah its our evil twin [00:36:20] oh darn [00:36:33] https://archive.org/details/@wikitide [00:36:37] finally, us [00:36:42] It might be better to just use well-known stuff to make it easy to use for ordinary pols [00:37:01] i feel like xz and zstd are common compression algorithms [00:37:07] archiveteam uses zstd for their warcs [00:37:10] Whats the compression effectivness [00:37:17] I mean, for those users [00:37:21] gz is fast but kinda ineffecient [00:37:22] for the average joe its zip or bust [00:37:25] xz is slow but most efficient [00:37:30] zstd is fast and mostly efficient [00:37:54] > [13/11/2024 11:37] I mean, for those users [00:38:01] i mean... have they ever seen a .gz file? [00:38:07] https://archive.org/download/archiveteam_archivebot_go_20230118020859_1c215551 [00:38:09] oh i was mistaken lol [00:38:13] they do use gz, huh [00:39:02] Oh by the way [00:39:08] I still control https://gitlab.com/miraheze [00:39:15] Who should I transfer to [00:41:35] > > du -sh rainversewiki_xml_243f0c52be1f8b9f1d84.xml* [00:41:36] > 84M rainversewiki_xml_243f0c52be1f8b9f1d84.xml [00:41:38] > 6.3M rainversewiki_xml_243f0c52be1f8b9f1d84.xml.gz [00:41:39] > 3.9M rainversewiki_xml_243f0c52be1f8b9f1d84.xml.xz [00:41:41] > 4.9M rainversewiki_xml_243f0c52be1f8b9f1d84.xml.zst [00:41:42] if anyone's curious [00:41:53] me :Troll: [00:42:05] Nah because emoji [00:43:43] compression results for a random tarball i had of scraped html + json: [00:43:52] > > du -sh data.tar* [00:43:54] > 358M data.tar [00:43:55] > 53M data.tar.gz [00:43:57] > 26M data.tar.xz [00:43:58] > 34M data.tar.zst [00:45:21] [1/2] Wut (/look at the bottom) [00:45:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1306057278587408435/IMG_6775.png?ex=67354820&is=6733f6a0&hm=6ec41179c2214ca322f26fc39d5b132f0b367f2565232ed5843058fe192ce35b& [00:45:27] `s/bottom/top` [00:46:00] They had such notice? /me didn't know [00:46:32] I do not need to guess who though; I have only one block entry. [00:46:40] :waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh: [00:46:45] :awawa: [00:47:11] [1/2] They now have 'add note', nice. [00:47:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1306057742276100097/IMG_6776.png?ex=6735488f&is=6733f70f&hm=4c5bbd55a32f1d83b1e333c12e1d8a72eeab779aaff78fc9a0976e7abeed8b48& [00:47:45] But mw-config is not a 'repository you haven't contributed to yet' [00:47:54] So they just send out anyway or it is a bug [00:48:03] oops! all forgotten! [00:48:27] bug in the hub [00:48:41] heh [00:49:37] i like the old adage of "git and github is like porn and pornhub" [00:49:39] anyway, gtg [00:50:09] cya [03:49:50] [1/2] hm [03:49:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1306103707603308585/image.png?ex=6735735e&is=673421de&hm=993fa6c72cf6a4df84d90a3b670b5ae0b54ecb9b60d9f937178d69bdea1acc36& [03:49:54] what could be the problem [03:50:05] oh my goodness thats such a good way of explaining git [04:59:10] i rejoin and miraheze relay be flipping out [04:59:55] Agent, RhinosF1: the relay is doing a die [05:00:40] CosmicAlpha and MacFan4000 as well ig [05:01:07] MirahezeRelay: u good? [05:01:09] nu [05:01:16] It's been fixed (I think) just hasn't deployed yet [05:01:34] oh oki [05:01:39] It got k-lined twice [05:01:47] wait, why? [05:01:50] I kicked ozone and poked libera staff [05:02:03] and why does it keep disconnecting [05:02:12] ozone saw the constant join/parting [05:02:23] oh bleh [05:02:37] my connections to the outside world, gone [05:04:15] the ignoreuser settings were removed, but they seemingly still have to be set to something so the bot boots up sees the error and dies [05:04:27] this just endlessly loops [05:04:41] I fixed it when puppet runs it will fix [05:05:10] oh oki [05:05:15] and cool, I just got notified of the channel that you registered BlankEclair [05:05:21] i finally got op on it [05:05:27] didn't know that was a thing for GCs [05:05:27] so i figured why not xD [05:06:03] you can claim it if you want, but the backing discord channel is ~dead [05:10:31] i tried to set the flags for it as the same as this one, but you two own too many channels :p [05:11:30] MirahezeRelay: u good? [05:11:31] nu [05:25:05] and we're back [05:25:18] yippee [05:56:18] do we have any IA experts here [05:56:29] I’m trying to figure out how to post our backups to the wiki collection [05:57:01] agentisai: i can try [05:57:08] the answer is you can't [05:57:15] people will move them themselves [05:57:31] i believe we need 50 items uploaded, then we can ask IA for a miraheze collection [05:58:33] for example, https://archive.org/details/youtube-TmlFCss-hkQ was initially uploaded to community videos [05:58:37] then ig someone moved it to mirrortube [05:59:09] oh cool [05:59:27] we have over 50 items uploaded so far [05:59:34] https://help.archive.org/help/how-to-request-a-collection/ [05:59:42] we’ll have over 10,000 by the end of the week [05:59:55] well, more like 8,000 accounting for private wikis [06:00:33] BlankEclair: thank you [06:00:37] you're welcome ^_^ [06:03:47] related: https://help.archive.org/help/how-to-move-an-item-to-another-collection/ [06:04:25] new question: how do you become an IA admin [06:04:27] lol [06:04:49] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [06:05:01] i assume those who can manage the collection can move stuff to it? [06:06:27] > Once your collection is created, any existing items will be moved to it and you will have admin privileges to upload to it. [06:06:29] https://help.archive.org/help/collections-a-basic-guide/ [08:36:38] Should there be a miraheze advent of code leaderboard [08:36:47] BlankEclair: ^ [08:37:02] hmm, how'd it work? [08:39:33] BlankEclair: you can join a shared leaderboard if you play advent of code this year [08:39:53] i'm actually not fully sure what the advent of code is [08:40:19] BlankEclair: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advent_of_Code [08:41:09] huh, sounds cool [08:41:37] BlankEclair: you want a shared miraheze leaderboard [08:42:17] I created one [08:43:59] If you want to take part in advent of code this year, use join code 4231756-55e8c40a (https://adventofcode.com/2024/leaderboard/private/view/4231756) to see how you're doing against other users [08:44:12] @Discord Moderators someone pin that until Jan ^ [08:44:37] huh~ [08:44:39] seems neat [08:45:00] Pinned [08:45:29] Thanks @cosmicalpha [08:45:34] No problem [08:45:54] Also go to sleep @cosmicalpha [08:46:44] oh okay, this seems interesting [08:59:12] BlankEclair: ye it should be [11:25:13] for true evil, i should do a security review of a yaron extension on christmas day [11:35:49] BlankEclair: no [11:35:59] No doing security reviews during the deployment freeze [11:36:13] hehehe [11:43:00] BlankEclair: I might get them to disconnect the internet to your house on Christmas Day [12:01:55] https://adventofcode.com/2023/day/7 [12:02:08] This is such a funny little backstory [12:48:42] +100 on hackernews