[04:25:04] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12841 [04:25:04] > 0/321 [04:25:05] oh boy we should make a minor announce to try and get some people probably. wondering if listing beta's account restrictions would be worth it? [04:26:07] I seem you're scouting #tech-ops [04:26:15] nope [04:26:15] nope [04:26:17] Phorge feed [04:26:40] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/rPUPC6f679fda5c17908bebc353a06bdf911a11bdf6c1 [04:27:10] i wasnt connected to see tech ops [04:27:30] discord exists [04:27:33] i was combo watching a WWII documentary and doing math work [04:27:49] yea but i dont like to use discord at 11:30 PM [04:28:07] n-no i dont just always forget to charge my phone that's stupid [04:28:43] I have a magsafe stand and I usually rotate my phone so standby activates and turns it into a clock [04:30:50] huh [04:31:52] i got self nerd sniped into being curious to find if there's a non profit for digital rights that's open to general legal advice inquries [04:32:13] EFF is the big one but also not reallt [04:32:47] when it comes to law, very few groups are focused on offering pro bono advice [04:32:52] and much less internet law advice [04:33:11] we have a lawyer in our midst but I'm afraid they don't specialize in internet law \:( [04:33:16] much less U.S. law [04:33:33] im not talking full cases just like hey this is the situation is this something they can do or is it worth pushing against them [04:34:03] we have a lawyer? [04:34:17] of course we do [04:34:42] external or from the commuity? [04:35:30] also im includnig copyright law kinda in internet law [04:39:56] agentisai: [04:53:30] [1/2] Copyright law is way more than just internet. And is so diverse, that if you started digging, you'd go crazy. [04:53:31] [2/2] Each country has it's own laws within Copyright. Such as FoP, PD-exemptions, restrictive licenses, trademarks, etc [04:54:41] I have been working on something a bit today to automate this, at least partially by running phan looking for things like removed functions across all extensions and skins together. [04:57:56] wats that replying to [04:59:40] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12841 [04:59:53] oh [05:00:10] :pray: :pray: :pray::pray::pray::pray: [06:01:16] testwiki is now on 1.43! [06:01:22] please report any funny business [06:01:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1309035967159603241/image.png?ex=67401e3f&is=673eccbf&hm=465b28801ef4918ca9a8994709ea528fcf668e6298a804717ed242eb4ff19f68& [06:01:38] quite funny [06:14:39] I really dont like the icon changes tbh [06:14:46] I never did on beta either... [06:15:28] what's that [06:15:35] on Vector now [06:15:38] new CSS? in every skin? [06:15:40] the web badges changed [06:15:49] it is in every skin [06:15:58] oh for real? [06:15:59] damn :/ [06:16:00] @theoneandonlylegroom want to beta test? \:P [06:16:01] yes [06:16:05] a change to core [06:16:12] they are not css either [06:16:21] actually they might be [06:16:22] 😮 [06:16:22] I'm still tired tbh [06:16:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1309039693844713552/image.png?ex=674021b7&is=673ed037&hm=4f001d06d9e9515222d17c0ee58514f23b52d2f2c9f834a2ad6baa5b167b95f8& [06:16:25] I think it is codex [06:16:29] ❗ [06:16:32] wow [06:16:33] noooo [06:16:41] I hate it [06:16:43] I thought it was just an average bad Vector design choice [06:16:50] this ain't cool [06:17:13] I thought about adding cas into MirahezeMagic to change it [06:17:18] but it makes it worse [06:17:21] oof [06:17:30] well, all hail Wikimedia then [06:17:35] nothing to be done about it [06:17:43] Since the icons aren't virtual buttons anymore [06:17:44] So all customised css will be affected then? [06:18:01] yup [06:18:07] well, for buttons [06:18:36] Yeah I mean, some have other licenses, or some have hidden them [06:18:48] uh [06:18:54] Actually CSS probably would work if I got it rihht [06:18:55] there are few wikis who modified these badges [06:18:56] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256190 [06:19:01] why does a "Donate" button appear on all pages now? [06:19:25] wait, OOUI will be replaced w/ Codex here? [06:19:29] Would like access [06:20:00] that means I'll have to make new CSS for UI elements all over again 🙂 [06:20:13] Yes OOUI is eventually to be deprecated from my understanding [06:20:25] pfff [06:20:34] would you like to beta test? \:P [06:20:36] hopefully it's less of a pain in the ass than OOUI lol [06:20:42] Yes [06:21:10] And I really hated codex until I saw how they made the new Special:Block with multiblocks etc... and my opinion on Codex changed I like it a bit more now [06:21:30] Special:Block is the first core page to go Codex in 1.43 [06:22:17] What are the benefits there? [06:22:42] Can't remember I'm sure the WMF found something to justify it [06:22:51] done! [06:23:13] Link? [06:23:26] your wiki, of course [06:23:30] Can't find itin my fav [06:23:43] OH [06:23:49] 1.43 is the largest upgrade ever so far I think [06:24:21] I don't remember any upgrade even other LTS upgrades that can even begin to compare with the scope of the changes in 1.43... [06:24:54] SMW works on 1.43! [06:24:59] Yep [06:25:02] man [06:25:14] we now have 3 wikis beta testing 1.43 [06:25:19] and what's planned date of update for us? [06:25:23] upgraded it to dev-master it should work on 1.42 and 1.43 now [06:25:29] as soon as possible [06:25:38] could be the day of release, could be in January [06:26:08] man I'm already suffering w/ "as soon as possible" tests at work lol [06:26:12] If we can't make it as soon as it is full stable, it will be January. Don't want to do things so close to the holidays and have another (4th) famous holidy incident. [06:26:54] We have the worst luck around the holidays [06:27:22] So either this month, very early December, or January [06:27:27] I was going to say "We didn't have a holiday incident last year, right?" and then I remembered Miraheze didn't exist essentially [06:27:45] wow, so cool to be running a beta version of MW! [06:28:13] Every year since I've been here we have had something happen on the holidays. Want to try to break that pattern. [06:28:27] 2022 didn't have an incident either [06:28:34] I think it did [06:28:36] of course, we don't count db141 [06:28:41] that was before [06:28:46] was it? [06:28:57] and 2021 didn't either as far as I could tell? [06:29:09] I think Widgets in 2021 [06:29:18] that was 2020 iirc [06:29:28] Was I here in 2020? [06:29:29] pretty sure widget were earlier [06:29:34] lol [06:29:46] when I joined it was already disabled [06:29:49] [06:29:54] December 2020! [06:30:03] Widgets was as soon as I joined SRE [06:30:04] I think 2020 was the last year of the holiday curse [06:30:12] we did have something in 2021 [06:30:27] and the second db141 incident in 2022 December [06:30:30] I was CES by then and I don't remember anything eventful happening [06:31:04] confusion in wiki requests during fandom refugee wave perhaps lol [06:31:57] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/925530467632054292 [06:31:59] in 2021 [06:32:09] I don't think this a true holiday incident though [06:32:13] oh 2021 was the MediaWiki core whitelisted pages security incident [06:32:30] well, that was in between Thanksgiving and Christmas [06:32:33] the largest security crackdown in MediaWiki ever I think [06:32:59] Holiday incidents I think of as being an incident during Thanksgiving or Christmas [06:33:11] anything in between is something that can happen at any time [06:33:14] They found a ton of other related security bugs and we also had some in our own extensions caused by the same thing we had to fix [06:33:27] db141 was november isn't? [06:33:30] oh yes, I remember [06:34:57] the second incident was December [06:35:34] So was the mediawiki core security was december 8th [06:35:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1309044521589407774/image.png?ex=67402636&is=673ed4b6&hm=cab2aa31d59625846cc6aa21072dfca49debe67abaf04e4e43f9ae36c994b289& [06:35:50] Seems the License is correct for my wiki [06:36:10] So that works nicely [06:36:22] trailblazer! [06:37:13] I'll write semi-coherent docs for early upgrades and then we'll get the show on the road! [06:38:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1309045200223735838/image.png?ex=674026d8&is=673ed558&hm=f98b83f660876abb2b96e39f4856112711a5bd5565344bff534c2f175bc2e189& [06:38:29] Popups and Maps work great [06:38:50] Also Sitenotice works [06:41:17] Thank you! [06:41:20] will update the task [06:41:57] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12841 [06:43:31] @agentisai thanks a lot for undertaking this task of starting work on the upgrade. I've been busy rewriting extensions lately, that I didn't do much work at all on it. So thanks for doing that... [06:44:16] upgrades are always so fun [06:44:25] more so since you did fantasic work on multiversion! [06:44:27] so seamless [06:45:33] lol yeah even todate the multiversion project was probably the biggest project I've ever done lol [06:45:54] It required building the whole mediawiki-repos system also... [06:46:29] @agentisai when upgrade comes are you aware there is also the ability to upgrade wikis by regex db names? [06:47:05] I am but it's funner to just change it in WikiTideFunctions and have everyone get dumped on a new version all at once [06:47:30] It doesn't change if you change it in there [06:47:36] that only affects new wikis [06:47:55] if wiki_version is null then it defaults to whatever is in there, no? [06:48:05] that's how I did it two upgrades ago \:P [06:48:10] It isnt null on thousands of wikis [06:48:15] oh really [06:48:18] 🤔 [06:48:28] I accidentally ran a population so my fault [06:48:29] well, I can see that actually [06:48:30] lol [06:48:33] lol [06:48:55] update cw_wikis set wiki_version = null where wiki_version = '1.42'; [06:49:11] do that yeah lol [06:49:15] heh [06:49:20] will do then [06:49:27] makes upgrading easier [06:50:02] [1/2] ```> update cw_wikis set wiki_version = null where wiki_version = '1.42'; [06:50:03] [2/2] Query OK, 8442 row(s) affected``` [06:50:12] you're right, it wasn't null on thousands of wikis [06:50:13] yep lol [06:50:15] \:o [06:50:50] [1/2] ```> update cw_wikis set wiki_version = null where wiki_version = '1.41'; [06:50:50] [2/2] Query OK, 1 row(s) affected``` [06:51:14] That actually does nothing lol I intentionally added fallbacks in that scenario [06:51:35] if /srv/mediawiki/1.41 doesn't exist it will still fallback to default. [06:51:42] oh nice! [06:53:22] [1/2] I am off to bed. 7:52 am now. So probably going to be grumpy at 10:30 😛 [06:53:22] [2/2] 💤 [06:53:59] oh btw wiki_version is a deprecated field @agentisai CW has this support natively now so custom fields wiki_version and wiki_primary_domain going away... [06:54:15] Sounds familiar [06:54:18] night! [06:54:26] o [06:54:33] so how will they be handled? [06:54:45] in wiki_extra [06:54:56] Once I finish that implementation lol [06:55:57] I will create a query that can still be used to update it manually if necessary though using JSON_SET [06:56:20] or JSON_REPLACE [06:56:30] I miss working with JSON queries lol [06:56:35] been years [06:56:43] since I have done anything like that [09:29:19] [1/3] Is this new? [09:29:20] [2/3] Via the `Special:UploadWizard` you can upload images from Flickr [09:29:20] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1309088244633436230/image.png?ex=67404eef&is=673efd6f&hm=7607ff091b74f68ec37bb84f1095b67953bae4b0e72f23c7a18dac7c9d450b74& [09:29:32] no [09:29:45] It is an extension that has been there for awhile [09:30:10] oh [09:30:28]