[08:27:54] checking new re Aus law, there's commentary that YouTube doesn't fall into social media as platform has educational function [08:28:23] that kinda aligns w/ WikiTide goals as charity org [08:34:55] but honestly I hope they'll revert, it's stupid [09:24:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1311986166660071444/Screenshot_20241126_154303_Gallery.jpg?ex=674ad9d5&is=67498855&hm=4c120a1ad4804e926f37cb4a2f0001cc5450f166d24f40240ac6a94e53777232& [10:31:48] cosmicalpha: #miraheze-wikicreators not relayed :p [19:21:15] Any @Technology Team member available to help me delete a broken wiki creation? [19:21:50] How broken [19:22:09] Like, some of the special pages weren't even instantiated right broken. [19:22:27] Jesus [19:22:47] At this point, easiest path forward will almost certainly be hard delete + recreate [19:23:19] The requester also has a ghost-attach locally, it's all kinds of messed up. [19:24:46] Link? [19:25:04] It’s very hard for such levels of breaking to occur [19:25:14] so the wiki will be a case study [19:26:06] https://uamne.miraheze.org/ [19:26:13] [1/2] Relevant SR entry: [19:26:13] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Permissions#MEFIGLAI@uamnewiki [19:31:25] That's not even possible ? [19:31:33] I don't think [19:31:35] How [19:31:40] You'd think, and yet, Special:ManageWikiDefaultPermissions is super broken [19:31:58] It goes to the actual group permissions management page instead of the fancy big red button page. [19:32:06] oh [19:32:15] well then, that’s a ManageWiki bug \:P [19:32:22] Yeah, that was my thought as well [19:32:40] I get page not available [19:32:41] Probably tied to whatever went horribly wrong with wiki instantiation [19:32:43] On https://uamne.miraheze.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0:ManageWikiDefaultPermissions [19:32:57] Expected for non-stewards [19:33:08] what do you see! [19:33:12] [1/2] This page is unavailable on this wiki. Please visit your farm's central wiki to use this page. [19:33:12] [2/2] Return to the Home page . [19:33:14] I see it load normal [19:33:17] Oh weird... [19:33:20] yep, expected behavior [19:33:21] Yeah it does for me too [19:33:38] Wait, now it's loading normally... whaaaaat? [19:33:48] 🤔 [19:34:03] Maybe I hit all the big red buttons, see if that helps? [19:34:26] That could work [19:34:34] The error makes me think someone pressed create twice [19:34:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/51706#mw-section-comments [19:34:42] Let's give it a shot, faster than a hard delete [19:34:45] Exception experienced creating the wiki. Error is: Wiki 'uamnewiki' already exists. [19:35:02] Yeah, that generally only happens when you hit submit twice on approval [19:35:10] but the approval message isn’t duplicated [19:35:16] might be a CreateWiki bug [19:35:18] Ye I think it's somehow raced [19:35:23] Interesting [19:35:45] Wild stuff. Alright, it now does allow me to create a local account for the user [19:35:49] So ghost attach is fixed [19:36:10] And meta central permissioning now recognizes them as attached too, hurrah [19:36:19] https://uamne.miraheze.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%86%D1%96%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D0%B0:CentralAuth?target=MEFIGLAI looks fine to me [19:36:54] Alright, all tidied up./ [19:36:58] We should work out how a race condition managed to happen and exactly where it went wrong [19:37:05] So weird it wasn't letting me into the correct special page before to fix [19:37:20] I suspect it got confused weirdly [19:37:52] Probably one of the ten thousand caches