[04:06:40] That hopeless optimism, of loving bugs, wish I had that [04:14:55] Amen [04:21:08] Wonder what kinda environment one has to be in to have that kinda boundless optimism approach [04:28:14] The author of the zine says she got it from someone else who has a talk “Love your Bugs” [04:28:39] Yea, but you do not just absorb that kinda optimism from a talk [04:28:47] We can watch it [04:28:55] Maybe then bugs will stop making us depressed [04:29:49] Think I found it! [04:29:51] http://akaptur.com/blog/2017/11/12/love-your-bugs/ [04:30:07] Lightly edited transcript, the talk is from Python Brazil [04:30:15] (🇧🇷!!!!) [04:31:13] Hmm [04:31:27] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4pZZOmv4Qs [04:31:43] Bit long, DEFCON length [04:32:17] (In English, not Portuguese) [04:32:39] Shifting mindset is different for everyone [04:32:58] Trying to make an effort to think about something differently is complicated sometimes [04:33:12] Yea [04:33:21] Thx! [04:33:27] Phew haha [04:33:50] 💯 [04:33:58] And it’s my native language! [04:34:01] We dislike bugs. We best learn something new when we want to make something new, not fix something broken, ig [04:34:03] Ahahhaya [04:34:07] Relatable [04:34:08] Not that I’m very good at it [04:34:23] Usually we rewrite things when they are broken [04:34:29] Instead of fixing them [04:34:33] From scratch [04:34:38] I moved to the States before pre school so I never exactly got a great education in Portuguese [04:34:44] Ah [04:34:53] Fair! [04:35:19] So we have gathered an extensive repository of figuring out how to write our own XYZ [04:35:28] Eh, sometimes the error is with specifically what yoh are trying or need to do [04:35:34] ie maybe with a library function [04:35:48] There's a high chance we will just rewrite the library [04:36:01] Bahahaha [04:36:04] Than try to debug why it is not doing what we want it to do [04:36:07] Happens recently often [04:36:14] sadly not all of us have the skills for that yet [04:36:31] There's no time like today for learning things :) [04:36:47] Definitely! [04:37:03] I always LOVE learning no matter what [04:37:08] Same [04:37:17] One of the things I most hate is not having the time to learn! [04:37:21] I dislike bugs, but I love learning new things [04:37:39] I want to be able to sit down work on new projects and frameworks and languages [04:37:41] I have the time, but not the energy to focus :/ Severe attention disorder [04:37:56] ADHD 🤝 [04:38:19] Yep [04:38:36] I read source code and manuals for for fun on my phone [04:38:41] I have the flavor of has an idea, really wants to work on it, hyperfixates, once i pry myself away, i cant find the motivation to go back [04:38:55] Samee [04:39:01] You folks would get along great with CosmicAlpha [04:39:11] Oh? [04:39:28] The mad lad(our director of technology) does all of his development work on mobile. [04:39:35] OH GOD [04:39:47] He is insane in a lot of ways [04:39:53] I do code on mobile sometimes, but not often, and I hate it so much [04:39:59] The touch keyboard [04:40:06] I’m honestly not sure if he still has his SSH keys on desktop updated [04:40:10] if he has one at all [04:40:32] im PRESUMING @cosmicalpha uses an external keyboard for dev work… [04:40:46] Oh then that's better [04:40:59] Tho, small screen [04:41:00] but this is the same man with 500,000 unread emails eternally 99+ notifications on all wikis ever [04:41:03] shudders [04:41:04] I don't I use touch keyboard on my phone for basically everything [04:41:07] and what was the other thing [04:41:31] You know I’m not sure why I bother giving benefit of the doubt to you anymore Tavon [04:42:05] lol it gets annoying when text randomly duplicates on Github when coding from phone but other than that it works okay. [04:42:26] I’m not sure if I should be surprised disgusted impressed or all of the above [04:43:00] Do you still own a laptop/desktop or do you just need to be on that wiki grind [04:43:08] /j [04:43:11] SSH from my phone is actually very convenient too [04:43:29] Oh I do lol just only turn it on once every couple months. [04:43:58] What [04:44:29] Guys i’m starting to doubt this person is real [04:44:59] Are you a malfunctioning ai chatbot impersonator/j how do you live like this [04:45:37] Practice lots and lots of practice and sometimes patience lol. [04:46:00] Do you do this for your job too [04:47:07] I do most of my work from my phone but I also have my actual work PC I'll use when needed. But I don't use my personal PC for that. [04:47:22] Uh huh [04:47:30] I’m going to go to sleep before midnight [04:49:52] Moral of the story Cosmic is I dont fucking know scary and insane but also impressive and never assume the less painful option with him im going to sleep talk to you folks(||i am admittedly not familiar with referring to plural people so||) tomorrow, hope that talk has some interesting stuff for us, im gonna check it in the morning hopefully [04:49:52] Night CA [04:49:52] night [04:51:48] Oki ^^ night [04:57:19] Also "you folks" is oki for referring to us ^^ [06:34:07] > [27/01/2025 15:38] I have the flavor of has an idea, really wants to work on it, hyperfixates, once i pry myself away, i cant find the motivation to go back [06:34:09] pixldev: ME TOO [06:34:54] Morning [06:35:26] it's more like evenyan [06:35:29] but mornyan ^_^ [06:36:46] i wonder [06:36:48] what's more cursed [06:37:07] reading yaron's code on a ti-nspire cx cas, or printing out yaron's code and reading it on the paper [06:37:34] You should test it [06:38:02] i print out code to do code review! xD [11:54:31] 🤝 [11:54:41] > i print out code to do code review! xD [11:54:50] Do you wanna know what went through my head [12:43:26] Do you print it on a4 2 times, one for the before and 1 for the changes? Or on A3 with both side by side? Asking for a friend [12:52:24] whiteout and pen [12:52:31] if you wanna be fancy [12:52:34] typewriter [22:23:41] Oooo deep seek wiped half a trillion off Nvidia's stock wow [22:41:48] @agentisai oh yea https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293312886277406743/1333566798133727252/image.png?ex=67995c5d&is=67980add&hm=fa434477be44ba1be8c9ce63b8084c8bcfa0522a56c3967e13f2e590ff40c9f3& needs updating [22:48:32] Why change them? [22:50:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1333569821656219759/image.png?ex=67995f2e&is=67980dae&hm=66609d5d005be119b597d78d76ed86429988188fc7ecda1712bba5daad873e9f& [22:50:38] update changed the behavior it seems [22:52:53] Yeah, the icon includes a box arround it [22:54:17] one of quite a few update quirks to be squashed [23:11:16] Its because the original one pre-1.43 you had to provide the styling (the box) in the image [23:11:34] 1.43 provides its own styling so only the text and logo are required [23:15:21] I already created an updated footer button without a box that is currently in use on beta - will add it on prod soon [23:23:45] ^ this is now done [23:25:57] Do reactions come through irc side? [23:25:59] I assume not [23:26:06] No [23:28:36] they don't [23:29:53] emojis (such as 😁) do come through when part of the message [23:41:09] [1/4] * Edit patrollers now have a new feature available that can highlight potentially problematic new pages. When a page is created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted, a tag (`'Recreated'`) will now be added, which users can filter for in `[[{{#special:RecentChanges}}]]` and `[[{{#special:NewPages}}]]`. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56145] [23:41:09] [2/4] * Later this week, there will be a new warning for editors if they attempt to create a redirect that links to another redirect (a `[[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Redirects#Double redirects|double redirect]]`). The feature will recommend that they link directly to the second redirect's target page. Thanks to the user `SomeRandomDeveloper` for this improvement. [https://phabricator.wiki [23:41:09] [3/4] media.org/T326056] [23:41:10] [4/4] These are two great updates!!