[00:00:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> theres some fucked way to do it without being infra iirc but its a lot simpler for infra to just do it
[00:00:30] <BlankEclair>	 don't we have a maint script for that?
[00:01:58] <BlankEclair>	 oh, it's still a pr for now ^^;
[00:01:59] <BlankEclair>	 https://github.com/miraheze/MirahezeMagic/pull/555/files
[00:03:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> isnt that the script you and Samuel spend hours trying to find a wiki after agent ran it
[00:03:59] <BlankEclair>	 no agent ran the other one, and forgot to run this one
[00:04:23] <BlankEclair>	 this pr makes it do both roles so that we don't have to run both commands
[00:06:36] <BlankEclair>	 for https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13275, i wonder if i can make a namespace in mw and then change the id via sql.php
[00:12:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Hey Claire, what do you mean by extra indentation?
[00:12:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to BlankEclair> Its a PR because I haven't tested it yet but MW admins can still do renames following existing scripts but it's probably safer infra does them until we have that script tested and merged.
[00:12:36] <BlankEclair>	 ah oki
[00:12:40] <BlankEclair>	 > [12/03/2025 11:12] <MirahezeRelay> <aeywoo> Hey Claire, what do you mean by extra indentation?
[00:12:45] <BlankEclair>	 basically, i see an extra indentation
[00:12:48] <BlankEclair>	 lemme send ss
[00:13:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> ? It looks fine to me, it follows the other namespace entries.
[00:13:37] <BlankEclair>	 https://files.catbox.moe/vcnp77.png
[00:13:42] <BlankEclair>	 i have tab size set to four because personal preference
[00:13:50] <BlankEclair>	 so mixing spaces and tabs can make things :sparkles: fun :sparkles:
[00:14:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Okay, well I redid the indentation, so it should be fine now.
[00:15:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Also added the dashboard secretkey to init.pp.
[00:15:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to rhinosf1> Thanks.
[00:15:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> what ide do you use
[00:15:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> I use GitHub's
[00:16:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> It never gives me indentation issues.
[00:17:08] <BlankEclair>	 LGTM but i can't merge the puppet pr lol
[00:17:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> :cry_cn:
[00:17:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Well I gotta add a cronjob committ to that PR first.
[00:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to aeywoo> github.dev?
[00:19:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> /codespaces
[00:19:11] <BlankEclair>	 oh right
[00:19:16] <BlankEclair>	 why do i have amnesia like this-
[00:21:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to pixldev> Yes.
[00:22:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @blankeclair want me to look at puppet PR?
[00:23:14] <BlankEclair>	 p sure there are extra systemd timers that aren't set yet ^^;
[00:23:35] <BlankEclair>	 btw
[00:23:37] <BlankEclair>	 https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/afc2aa8e408682bb0a414381db5f45ba481ffe7b/GlobalSettings.php#L561-L567
[00:23:44] <BlankEclair>	 any reason why parsermigration is blocked off for mirabeta?
[00:24:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Also what would I set for `mediawiki::campaigneventsdashboard_apisecret` in private puppet lol how do I generate that?
[00:24:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to BlankEclair> I'm not sure
[00:24:52] <BlankEclair>	 > [12/03/2025 11:24] <MirahezeRelay> <cosmicalpha> Also what would I set for `mediawiki::campaigneventsdashboard_apisecret` in private puppet lol how do I generate that?
[00:24:55] <BlankEclair>	 good question
[00:25:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to cosmicalpha> I'm unsure tbh.
[00:25:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> It doesn't list an example.
[00:26:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I'll look at it tomorrow probably then.
[00:26:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> All the extension checks for is if it's a string.
[00:26:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> So I'm assuming you could just chuck in a SHA256 string and call it a day.
[00:26:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I guess I can generate a random key yeah.
[00:27:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Probably using the same generation you use to generate wgSecretKey maybe.
[00:27:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> `MWCryptRand::generateHex( 64 );`
[00:29:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> How often should these two cronjobs be run for CampaignEvents?
[00:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Claire
[00:44:11] <BlankEclair>	 meow?
[00:44:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Can you go do you typical keyboard massing in CAs DMs on MM
[00:44:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @cosmicalpha expect a fresh secret key in a sec
[00:44:54] <BlankEclair>	 alright good point
[00:44:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> I might just set the cronjob times to `--* 02:00:00`
[00:45:49] <BlankEclair>	 done
[00:50:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @teajai
[01:14:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to teajai> anyways i was looking at the code for the UI related to T13333(lmao)
[01:21:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <teajai> So basically the "Create a new user group" input has a lack of clarity in that it creates the technical name of the group, which has certain restrictions that aren't properly communicated, instead of the display name of the group?
[01:22:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> OOJSPlus is so neat
[01:22:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> i decided to implement my own version with codex heh
[01:22:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <teajai> And the display name of the groups is actually defined in mainspace?
[01:22:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> since WMF be slackin
[01:22:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> I think that's why BlueSpice added it to SimpleBlogPage.
[01:23:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to teajai> yeah
[01:23:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to teajai> the displayed name of the group is in mediawiki space
[01:23:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> but also there is no one display name
[01:23:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> iirc you enter what name you want and the form should automatically fix it to be mediawiki compliant?
[01:24:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Oh hey OA I had an idea for UserProfileV2.
[01:24:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> there’s actually two messages
[01:24:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> ie if you enteer "The Boss" it should be transformed to "theboss" since MediaWiki requires group names to be lowercase and all one word
[01:24:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> IIRC it doesn’t enforce no caps
[01:24:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Oh
[01:24:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Instead of having to manually define new social media links via like four different files, we could have a Special Page where you can add and remove them etc.
[01:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> yes but it should theoretically do the transformation for you, doesn't it?
[01:24:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> well still good to explain in case a user copy pastes or gets confused
[01:25:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> Can check later
[01:25:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> anyway
[01:25:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki/blob/61b28ad9dc3ce0c0b3f3080450a95b0d1010c33d/includes/Specials/SpecialManageWiki.php#L181 do ypu know if we could add an HTML element/information box on this line? Or have to roll it into the form function
[01:26:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to aeywoo> [1/3] Not really possible without a lot of work because 
[01:26:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to aeywoo> [2/3] a) there is validation 
[01:26:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to aeywoo> [3/3] b) the interface for changing the links is entirely in JS and the input fields are all hardcoded, so it would be a major pain to dynamically get them to show them
[01:26:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> plus I'm not really interested in having loads of links, I kept them at a minimum on purpose
[01:27:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> (but of course it is open source and people are free to fork and customise to their own liking)
[01:27:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Well, not a lot of technically incline people will want to have more links.
[01:28:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> copy and paste job the framework is already there with several examples of how to do it
[01:29:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to pixldev> theoretically but I don't have the energy to go trolling through to see where the form is generated
[01:29:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> since you have to navigate to about 50 different files to just find the form generation but
[01:29:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> dumb as fuck architecture
[01:29:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> ManageWiki
[01:30:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> OOUI accepts a help/description for each element so should be theoretically easy to achieve
[01:30:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> but notwithstanding I'm not actually sure what the issue is?
[01:31:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Ie I just created a group "A group with spaces" and managewiki automatically changed the name to "A_group_with_spaces" to satisfy mediawiki
[01:31:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> and then just change the display name at the mediawiki page?
[01:32:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> The issue is that no crats know that exist
[01:33:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> its not communicated anywhere in our UI/UX
[01:33:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> the first issue you smoke was a side concern
[01:34:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> [1/2] maybe an alternate way is to add a message to the top there? or alternatively at the side of the group name below the "Manage this wiki's permissions" add a link to the mediawiki page titled "Change display name"
[01:34:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1349193878762426408/Screenshot_2025-03-12_at_01.34.13.png?ex=67d23637&is=67d0e4b7&hm=135382a9d79528d868784b3d7885769a1252c6a6d728a2746aab1b84ff09b76d&
[01:34:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Which leads to things like UserProfileV2 showing a broken message for any custom groups lol
[01:35:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> meh I guess
[01:35:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> My original idea and honestly preference from a UX standpoint is to edit the names in that page
[01:35:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> but i dont really wanna deal with that can of worms
[01:36:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> it could just be a dialog that pops up in JS to allow the change without leaving the page, idk? I'm just thinking of the easiest way to do it because that codebase is fucked
[01:47:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> Oh?
[02:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Welp I'm off on a walk, I've made all the PRs I need for CampaignEvents.
[04:59:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to rodejong> @rhinosf1 so we should be fine with enabling the Lakeus Skin then?
[06:08:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @aeywoo ill get to your PRs tomorrow btw.
[06:08:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Thanks, I think they're all setup properly.
[06:08:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> From my glance I did it seemed like they were yeah
[08:43:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Are these domains going to be usable soon? https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/pull/5529
[10:04:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to aeywoo> wiki.surf is already used
[10:04:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> its our URL shortern
[10:05:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://wiki.surf/AMH
[10:11:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I should add mira.wiki as an option there also.
[10:32:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to cosmicalpha> You should add `wikia.com` as an option
[10:32:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> :Clueless:
[11:17:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> wikicities
[11:18:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> did i seriously just claim a task and respond with "meow meow"?
[11:19:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [1/2] yes, yes you did
[11:19:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1349341103412871248/image.png?ex=67d2bf54&is=67d16dd4&hm=ce22842617490034074c5a2ae730cbed586c9b2384cc279224fefa3935254e4e&
[11:27:11] <BlankEclair>	 it's not panic inciting at all when you run a script that's supposed to output "<page title> Deleted!", and instead it outputs " Deleted!"
[11:28:16] <BlankEclair>	 wow
[11:28:20] <BlankEclair>	 they really forgor to print hte page title
[11:36:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> The person responsible for this just giggles maniachly everytime they think about it.
[11:36:48] <BlankEclair>	 ?