[01:24:34] [1/3] WikiMedia News [01:24:34] [2/3] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Platform_Team/SUL3 [01:24:34] [3/3] Single User Login has now been updated on all wikis to move login and account creation to a central domain. This makes user login compatible with browser restrictions on cross-domain cookies, which have prevented users of some browsers from staying logged in. [09:15:34] Woo I now understand how authwiki kinda works [09:15:50] I need to see how they technically achieve that now [09:29:26] I'm confused as fuck [09:29:45] Is this a wiki page or just a web page styled to look like wikipedia? [09:30:01] I think technically it's a wiki page [09:30:08] It must surely still hit mediawiki [09:30:10] Wheres the code for this shit [09:30:17] Not sure yet [09:30:37] I forget what that sites called where you can view WMFs local settings et al [09:34:26] GitHub [09:34:42] Multiversion fuckery [09:34:43] Theres some funny site though on a wikimedia domain [09:34:59] I think we need @cosmicalpha's help to do that bit [09:35:36] Huh? [09:36:15] @originalauthority fuck with the Multiversion setup to support a shared domain [09:37:22] The multiversion bit is just setting $IP based on the mediawiki version from the managewiki cache file [09:37:56] Im trynna find this sul stuff lmao why is it so obscure [09:40:21] None of it seems to be documented [09:41:01] Yeah none of the tickets have any commit data associated with the actual shared domain either? [09:41:27] Nope [09:45:46] Wikimedia at its finest. [09:46:01] Their documentation for CampaignEvents sucks too. [09:51:10] That extension is cursed [09:51:31] It's making us rewrite our entire ext review process [09:55:16] :3 [09:55:19] You're welcome. [10:08:35] Yes I like heart attacks when I test things [10:08:45] Also why are the apprenticeship service emailing me on a Sunday [10:08:47] Like [10:09:00] Don't they realise I have a life outside work [11:43:51] @figoarto hi [12:51:27] Hello [12:52:35] can you please ask your users to not rename nearly all your mps4s at once [12:53:10] Ah alright [12:54:04] I've forwarded it to the other staff member who's doing this [12:54:13] Was it affecting MH negatively? [12:54:44] yes very much so [12:54:58] if you need every single mp4 in future moving, please do it slowly [12:55:06] and ideally warn us [12:55:15] so we can manage capacity for videoscaling [12:55:59] Alright [12:56:47] Were actually planning to remove all mp4s on the wiki altogether [12:57:25] hmm [12:58:02] From the user who did the renaming [12:58:39] @figoarto ye renaming nearly every single mp4 at once is what happened [12:58:52] that's not minor [12:59:26] it's cost 3 engineers 2 hours of their sunday to try and find anything we can do to make it run at a reasonable pace [13:03:22] @rhinosf1 I'm gonna upload the FNaF movie fifty times at once and move all the files at once. [13:03:30] How quickly can you globally disable my account :# [13:04:36] Wait what [13:04:52] [[Special:CA/Aeywoo]] [13:04:53]

[13:05:14] do it [13:05:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1355890619750416575/image0.jpg?ex=67ea930a&is=67e9418a&hm=9a8cca4ee8a337e30e1c9b4e7ac7486fd112a7d3e85966de83439bef06523a14& [13:05:32] Me, Paladox and Claire [13:06:17] Apologies for what happened [13:07:13] Shouldn't we (by we I mean everyone but me cause I don't know PHP) make an extension that limits the moving of mp4 files to like 1 per minute or something? [13:07:21] That would seemingly prevent further issues from occuring in the future. [13:09:01] Eh [13:09:38] Seems overly specific, I can’t really see a non AVID wiki running into this. Maybe a check to limit the root cause of the issue [13:11:26] Or, we can restrict the uploading of certain files to certain user groups by default or give sysops the ability to grant htem? [13:11:41] Because if anyone can just upload an mp4, what's stopping someone from uploading ten mp4 files at once? [13:13:06] this was a lot more than 10 at once [13:13:20] and avid is only wiki that has anywhere near that number of mp4s [13:13:24] yeah this was literally the entirety of the mp4s on the wiki [13:14:00] Still concerning that once wiki with this many files can cripple that part of the infrastrucutre. [13:14:36] honestly, we place a lot of trust in certain wikis to be sensible [13:14:59] There are restrictions on how many can be submitted via ReplaceText at once [13:15:04] which it looks like was used [13:15:13] (correct me if I'm wrong @figoarto ) [13:15:28] It looks like someone submitted mutiple of them requests at once though [13:15:35] I mean I guess this was Gamepedia's thought process too with their JS pages. [13:15:41] Eh, it’s a risk we understood and took in taking them back [13:15:46] a bureaucrat no less [13:15:47] until someone added a cryptominer to a JS page on their Gamepedia Wiki [13:15:53] yes [13:16:12] Someone should try that on Miraheze [13:16:14] Wait what [13:16:20] This is the informal conversation to find out what actually happened [13:16:28] Thanks PixDeVl for the permission to do that. [13:16:28] Mp4s are already banned from the wiki iirc [13:16:33] Wait no [13:16:39] I’m not tech though [13:16:40] 📷 [13:16:53] I think the bureaucrat didn't realize that moving so many files like that can put a lot of weight on MH [13:16:56] Too late... [13:17:00] Fair [13:17:12] Can we rebrand Miraheze as Gamepedia on April 1st as a April Fools joke. [13:17:20] There's a limit of 990 on avid iirc [13:17:39] and the default is far below that, maybe 200 or something so [13:17:41] That’s actually a fun idea [13:17:51] @agentisai let’s write that down for next year [13:17:53] What repo holds the Miraheze website? [13:17:59] The landing page? [13:18:01] Yes. [13:18:06] Don't tell me it's Wordpress. [13:18:11] Miraheze/landing. [13:18:13] I wish [13:18:18] Fuck you. [13:18:18] afaics, it is showing 250 to me [13:18:29] Wdym you wish???? [13:18:34] We already have a plan for tomorrows April fools [13:18:35] Wordpress is ass. [13:18:40] You can change it to like 1000 [13:18:45] That's just the default [13:18:53] The default is 250, it can be cranked up more but it can only do up to 990 [13:19:00] Out of all the PHP CMS platforms, Wordpress is by far the worswt. [13:19:04] It only does 990 [13:19:10] It's like the Minecraft: Bedrock Edition of MediaWiki. [13:19:10] So adding gamepedia to the landing page would probably be even more confusing with what we’re doing on meta and discord [13:19:13] Even tho it says 1000 [13:19:19] HELP [13:19:22] where [13:19:30] the actual config lists 250 [13:19:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1355894240667766794/image.png?ex=67ea966a&is=67e944ea&hm=94722eb32f73e04ccaa7b282095642a91153d35eebeef8eacf9c3189178d62b5& [13:19:49] see that 250 number [13:19:50] Damn, but we're definitely doing Gamepedia next year. [13:20:00] Maybe [13:20:02] (can you tell I have an obsession about gamepedia yet?) [13:20:06] ah right ye that shouldn't be there [13:20:22] Maybe 2027 we do a fandom partnership April fools [13:20:34] They rebrand as us and we rebrand as fandom [13:20:37] :Troll: [13:20:46] I should get out of bed [13:21:01] Go eat bacon 🥓 [13:21:19] Buy out Fandom and shut it down for the ultimate revenge. [13:21:29] We must avenge Gamepedia :gamepedia: and Curse :curse: [13:23:55] @figoarto @that_inaudible can you link to something that says mp4 uploads are now banned? [13:26:08] Modrinth is where it’s at man [13:26:32] CURSEFORGE FOR LIFE!!!!! [13:27:34] IN RINTH WE TRUST [13:28:08] iirc it was an rfc [13:28:21] can it be linked? [13:30:53] [1/2] i'm seeing that this was apparently announced but I don't remember where [13:30:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1355897071990866040/image.png?ex=67ea990d&is=67e9478d&hm=68eb910a6bf688635532001679ee11a63308881df7f818e91ca0cec5842fe4f5& [13:31:05] and i don't remember for all i know it might not even be an rfc [13:31:37] @that_inaudible can you link to that then? [13:31:49] I want something to put on a task that I can link to on-wiki [13:32:00] to say you ain't uploading files directly to us anymore [13:32:43] [1/2] had to go to a revision of a deleted sitenotice page just for this lol [13:32:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1355897531543978085/image.png?ex=67ea997a&is=67e947fa&hm=b05eb7910e4038bc9caa47c22c0b45e25cec248e68de4dd7c390aee42ca2b138& [13:33:08] notice the mention of mp4 files being hosted on ia [13:34:14] tryna post a link to the thing and it got blocked [13:34:30] you can dm it then [13:35:12] or use #verify [13:35:56] [1/2] https://www.avid.wiki/Special:Undelete?target=MediaWiki%3ASitenotice×tamp=20241016205556 [13:35:56] [2/2] heres the link to it if it can be accessed [13:36:41] Really sorry about this kerfuffle. I can see what was trying to be done since we do plan to host our MP4s offsite and they were apparently unintentionally broken during the import process but yeah trying to force things all at once is rarely ever a good idea [13:36:41] I can see it, think tech can too [13:37:15] Got it Rhinos? [13:37:41] @that_inaudible @figoarto Can I note that you still can upload mp4s. Could it be removed from https://www.avid.wiki/Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media if the intent is to use IA? [13:37:58] ye, in future, please just ask us for big stuff like that [13:38:00] we don't bite [13:38:12] https://www.avid.wiki/Forum:Announcement_regarding_our_move_to_MyWikis [13:38:16] We announced it here [13:38:20] Yes and we also have a request to completely remove the files from the database (as in, not on the servers anymore) [13:38:52] what's the task number? [13:39:07] Not officially a task yet it's just, we're bringing this up for now [13:39:15] it's sunny outside and I wouldn't have minded a seafront walk [13:39:48] okay, we'll be able to sort that whenever you're ready [13:40:04] Eeeeeerm [13:40:07] Mediawiki won’t like that [13:40:22] Gah fuck it it doesn’t like anything [13:41:07] I've disabled the video extensions on wiki [13:41:31] We have also passed on the request to not force things all at once to the bureaucrat who did the mass ReplaceText 👍 [13:41:33] It can be done [13:42:54] full file deletions is one of the few full deletions mediawiki isn't too bad with [13:43:48] Huh [13:44:08] thank you [13:44:21] You're welcome! 👍 [21:54:18] What were/are the sollutions to Preview extention not working well? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1356000445826339039 [22:11:19] Mostly waiting and toggling it off and back on again. [22:11:30] Previews is a very touchy extension, like visual editor [22:59:21] hmmm