[01:04:25] Why is the LinkTitles extension restricted to managewiki-restricted? [02:42:03] wiki page most likely, you can hit Special:Manage two-factor authentication [02:42:19] and js is fetched from the domain of the backing wiki id [03:42:49] [8b3911dfee0c5b8e14d66019] 2025-03-31 03:42:31: Fatal exception of type "TypeError" [03:42:58] Special:CargoTables/Map again [03:43:06] is this related to the issue from days ago [03:43:14] same as the gamemode cargo table [06:55:24] It's a very locked down wiki page [06:55:32] Good question [06:55:39] ah oki [06:59:06] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T1160#21852 [07:09:59] Ah, that makes sense then. [07:10:24] @rhinosf1 LinkTitles is missing configurations for users to change, if I make a PR for them can you merge them for me please? [07:10:45] I can review the PR [07:15:52] @rhinosf1 what's your phorge account. [07:15:58] I can't find it under "RhinosF1" [07:16:15] Nevermind. [07:38:10] That comment is from 2016, it seems the suggested changes to the extension were made and merged on their GitHub repo, surely there shouldn't be much of an issue anymore, right? [07:40:27] It would still need a review [07:41:19] For [T13457](https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13457) someone asked for the ability to change the extensions configuration settings, should we also request a new security review in that ticket? [07:42:59] It's more performance than security that was the concern [07:43:20] But there should be an active decision about whether a setting is safe to enable [07:43:30] From someone [07:44:51] They want the setting `$wgLinkTitlesFirstOnly = true;` set to false for their wiki. [07:45:11] It's already in the LocalSettings.php file and such. [07:45:39] And the simulatorwiki previously had it set to false, speaking of the simulatorwiki it appears to be closed, should I remove it from the LocalSettings.php file in the same PR? [07:48:11] Yes [07:48:49] If it still existed it, would it be located at simulator.miraheze.org or simulatorwiki.miraheze.org? [07:49:13] Well, neither exist anyway. So, I guess either or just one. [07:52:46] That would be the first [08:28:37] [1/2] @rhinosf1 how would I set this up in ManageWikiSettings.php? [08:28:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1356183391434964992/image.png?ex=67eba3b5&is=67ea5235&hm=a6b00cb8121ff6fb46e5fc2647a01af6a3039f2d8187627b7f78321911589d99& [08:29:01] I was thinking it would be a `list` entry with an `options` param, but then idk what you would put in there. [08:29:17] Do I just put it in ManageWikiNamespaces.php even though it's for page names? [08:36:35] No [08:38:09] Don't think ManageWiki supports that [08:38:13] That's a strange setting [08:38:26] Most allow a page in the MediaWiki namespace [08:38:48] Rather than php config file [08:38:52] For that kind of thing [08:38:59] Also surprised blacklist ain't been renamed [08:40:41] Yeah, so I guess we just leave that to Phorge ticket requests then. [08:41:10] You could upstream it [08:41:18] Yeah, I could. [08:41:18] To be less awkward [08:48:27] Do you think someone would have a page title more than 100 characters? [08:48:37] it will happen [08:48:43] I have to set a maxint for `wgLinkTitlesMinimumTitleLength`. [08:48:49] [1/2] someone's gonna try the extension out on MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM [08:48:50] [2/2] MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM [08:48:56] Also, should I restrict all the settings for LinkTitles to managewiki-restricted? [08:49:14] Good morning peoples [08:49:14] > The requested page title is too long. It must be no longer than 255 bytes in UTF-8 encoding. [08:49:15] Except for maybe wgLinkTitlesFirstOnly? [08:49:15] huh, til [08:49:27] I'll set it to 255 then. [08:51:35] I'm not sure about htis. [09:05:36] Morning [09:06:30] It's 10am and I'm bored of the emails poking us all to do end of FY submissions already [09:12:16] I guess I'll just restrict the settings that could do the most damage I guess. [09:21:47] @rhinosf1 I made the PR to add the LinkTitles extension settings. [09:23:45] I guess I'm reviewing it this afternoon then [09:57:26] It would be "wikipages" [09:57:40] Only main namespace pages are supported, however. [09:57:43] Grafana is killing itself again. [09:58:56] @aeywoo a tad off for https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13453#269911 [09:59:05] I just saw from my Email. [09:59:11] I muted that for 30 hours [09:59:25] How did I miss that in the doc at the top [09:59:43] @aeywoo I have no idea why it was marked conflicting [09:59:49] That seems completely incorrect [09:59:57] In the documentation it says apparently they are compatible. [10:00:08] It's designed to be compatible [10:00:20] It's the complete opposite of conflicting Africa [10:00:26] Afaics [10:00:29] Not Africa [10:00:33] Stupid spellcheck [10:00:34] conflicting Africa [10:00:37] I hate when that happens. [10:01:17] You can probably just create a PR to set conflicts to false [10:01:28] Unless @originalauthority or @blankeclair want to tell me what I'm missing [10:02:35] meow? [10:02:45] hiya claire [10:02:51] hello ^_^ [10:02:54] @blankeclair https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13453 [10:04:03] ah, so the issue is figuring out what the ext has conflicts with? [10:04:09] No idea but I don't see anywhere it saying it conflicts [10:04:19] Maybe back in 2021 it did conflcit. [10:04:29] Also if it is a known conflict then developeds should really start to put that in extension.json [10:06:08] It seems the exact opposite of a conflict [10:06:19] ikr? [10:06:23] It's a person conflict. [10:06:27] Fuck that extension in particular. [10:06:33] it seems like an optional reverse dependency judging by its wiki page [10:06:35] oh? [10:06:35] The release notes never mention conflict either so I guess it can be changed ueah [10:06:37] oh lol [10:06:49] i would setup a local smw instance if it were easy lol [10:06:52] is a joke [10:06:58] ah okay ^^; [10:19:42] @aeywoo make a PR to mark conflicts false [10:22:15] kk [10:23:54] @originalauthority you seen the new future of the BBC survey [10:24:23] Nah [10:24:27] Defund them fuckers though [10:24:35] Done. [10:25:56] I'll put that for you [10:26:09] I'll do it this afternoon [10:26:21] They can stop sending me letters to [10:26:26] I DONT HAVE AND WILL NEVER HAVE A TV LICENSE [10:26:53] I’mma come repo your tv now 👍 [10:27:23] If they ever come to my house I aint got no TV [10:27:39] REeeeeeee [10:27:40] “Sir, that is my computer monitor” [10:29:28] That's crapita [10:29:34] That manage that [10:29:41] Go moan at your employer [10:30:19] That's just as use as talking to a brick wall [10:30:55] Why do you think they're crapita? [10:36:34] @originalauthority a brick wall would have probably been significantly more effective than Crapita in a number of cases [10:40:03] I wonder how long it takes for me to be able to merge PRs for the Miraheze org. [10:41:26] For config? [10:41:32] Ya. [10:41:40] When you join tech [10:42:01] It's mostly a case of building trust to be honest and getting to know people [10:42:20] We really should have a proper mentoring program [10:42:22] You have to trust me not to install Widgets. [10:42:55] There isn't really a defined route or like a defined plan [10:43:00] For becoming tech [10:43:11] Ah, so pay to win is an option then. [10:43:15] @blankeclair and @originalauthority are the newest [10:43:27] I guess someone should really like agree to coach you [10:43:32] technically, i pay with time [10:43:43] Claire pays with CVEs [10:43:48] and that too [10:43:49] Claire would definitely mentor me into breaking everything. [10:44:02] Hey there, it's Josh and welcome back to Let's Game It Out [10:44:13] If we could work on the passwords separation for beta id probably happily give you beta [10:44:21] Today we're playing with Miraheze's puppet timers, isn't this going to be interesting? [10:44:35] We really should do that the [10:44:53] We should finish the migration of puppet to havoc or whatever the new open source one is called. [10:45:12] that's not going to be yet [10:45:12] Oh, I could do that now I guess. [10:45:16] i should make my yurikey open up yuri when you tap it [10:45:25] You can update the task with what's in PS.php [10:45:32] I think that's the only credentials to change [10:45:40] PS.php? [10:45:45] PrivateSettings.php [10:45:48] Ohhh. [10:45:49] stored in puppet [10:45:51] Ye [10:45:56] You can see the template in puppet [10:45:58] might have an .erb extension at the end [10:46:07] So you know what the creds are [10:46:16] Someone just needs to make unique ones for beta for them all [10:46:21] And really document how to change them [10:46:59] Okay, so for every entry in PS.php, I should make a `_beta` version? [10:47:03] The idea is that nothing you can do from test151 exposes private beta [10:47:10] No just document them on task [10:47:11] For now [10:47:15] Which task. [10:47:28] Whichever is the one for isolating beta [10:47:32] I think I made it [10:47:47] what beta are you giving me [10:48:00] is this a beta protein shake [10:48:46] It's https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T12611 [10:48:46] β [10:48:52] I'll add you to that [10:49:02] There's no actual private data in it [10:50:32] So, I basically copy paste PS.php and put in the task? [10:50:48] Or just have it as a list with each value? [10:51:16] A table [10:51:21] With all the variables [10:51:23] How to reset [10:51:32] And whether it's been changed [10:52:06] Idk how you reset then. [10:52:15] Then don't add that bit [10:52:20] Some will be super easy [10:52:27] Some will be logging into something [10:52:32] Some no one probably knows [10:52:38] mariadb password would be something like "run this sql query as a user w/ high enough privs" [10:53:54] Ye [10:54:13] I really want to do an incident response excerise at some point [10:54:27] [1/2] Like this? [10:54:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1356220089606865097/image.png?ex=67ebc5e2&is=67ea7462&hm=93e5c75e753a05203480dace5ceb9fb3c17ef119df3308551512495195247956& [10:54:27] someone ran rm -rf as root! what do x3 [10:54:43] along w/ an extra column on "How to rotate" [10:54:50] keep a cell blank if you dunno how to rotate [10:54:54] In the task description [10:54:55] "How to rotate" > Grab your screen and spin it around. [10:55:07] Yeah, I'll do that. [10:55:22] [1/2] web browsers have featured the button for literally decades [10:55:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1356220322231357482/2025-03-31_21-55.png?ex=67ebc61a&is=67ea749a&hm=583226318fb47090d00611fe33bd8cc89c255d4e1569b292f3905634f3f03d4f& [10:55:57] So what do you mean by how to rotate, like how to reset? [10:56:04] ah, was that serious? ^^; [10:56:12] yeah, rotate in terms of credentials means to reset them [10:56:49] Well, you're talking to someone who likes FNaF and Minecraft Parodies. I know how to break mysql when changing a password. [10:57:11] now that i think about it, why do we set $wgUpgradeKey? [10:57:24] brb updating the beta cluster with mw-config/index.php 😎 [10:57:31] Good luck! [10:57:37] (/j) [10:57:41] ((unfortunately)) [10:57:44]