[00:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Randomly found, but it seems that Bucket - an alternatives to SMW was "production ready"
[00:07:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> https://meta.weirdgloop.org/w/Extension:Bucket
[00:08:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> In Cook We Trust
[00:09:21] <BlankEclair>	 at least it's not cargo
[00:09:35] <BlankEclair>	 heard of it before, though idk if we got an extension req for it
[00:09:45] <BlankEclair>	 nope
[00:09:54] <BlankEclair>	 i haven't looked too closely at bucket, but it is promising :3
[00:10:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> It doesn't support mariadb so nah
[00:11:32] <BlankEclair>	 ah damn
[00:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to originalauthority> What
[00:12:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> :SNN3:
[00:12:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK
[00:22:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> The codebase is pretty small at this point (a little more than 2000 lines of php), so I'd imagine MySQL-specific features will be pretty easy to identify and fix. But since supporting other DBs is an explicitly stated non-goal, I don't know what are the chances they will accept patches.
[00:37:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [1/7] they're transitions:
[00:38:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [2/7] ```
[00:38:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [3/7] html, body, .citizen-body {
[00:38:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [4/7] transition: .5s all
[00:38:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [5/7] }
[00:38:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [6/7] ```
[00:38:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to posix_memalign> [7/7] animations still are dead on safemode so it also probably a citizen thing
[01:11:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to tango_man> [1/2] Animations are functional on my end somehow (if you're talking about all citizen animations).
[01:11:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to tango_man> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1400284793794592920/2025-07-30_18-10-29.mkv?ex=688c1456&is=688ac2d6&hm=d2d33deced219712d67dc43c1304c6e28b536a9c0f33d42202fa27804d6c2fbd&
[01:12:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> gimme a second rq
[01:13:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> devices sometime have something known as animation toggle, like in windows 10 which has one
[01:13:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> oh wait
[01:13:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> that might be uh
[01:13:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> need another second
[01:14:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> lmao that was it 😭
[01:14:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man> now the only things left are goofy infobox fonts
[02:08:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to songngu.xyz> Oh shit it's finally production ready?
[02:17:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <steverichard043> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1400301437094854706/IMG_2486.png?ex=688c23d6&is=688ad256&hm=e41958e061724235ee397defcd4d50d35bd8467dfb03e054cf1f0c7f5d83e281&
[02:30:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> <https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-25848> Maybe one day it could be MariaDB compatible as well
[02:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] @cosmicalpha Is this an accurate description of current plans for the MW 1.44 upgrade? I remember seeing discussions surrounding disabling commentstreams, but I don't want to make people panic on MH Monthly before a definitive decision is made.
[02:39:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1400306733305561088/image.png?ex=688c28c5&is=688ad745&hm=5592a43869401e37f4780615374af78ef820063d2c54339262d2fcc328da7df0&
[02:55:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to kockaadmiralac> we could try begging and pleading to cook
[02:59:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> I mean, those are used for repeated fields only apparently, so if your buckets are completely normalized databases you might never encounter the issue
[03:00:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac> My use cases are not important enough to play with it though
[04:53:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to kockaadmiralac> I'm not sure what repeated means here. From what you said, a repeated column means that multiple rows can have the same value in that column?
[05:05:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] Personally I doubt if all the indexing is necessary. If tables have a few thousand rows, a linear scan would be very inexpensive. Even a join wouldn't be bad. Wikis don't typically go past a few thousand DB rows anyway. 
[05:05:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] Runescape's data size might be a different story, though. If we can convince them to add an indexing toggle, we could make it available for non-MySQL databases.
[08:11:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kockaadmiralac, replying to posix_memalign> It's that one row can have multiple values in a single column, like an array
[08:33:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to kockaadmiralac> I thought Cargo/SMW supports this already, given that we are using MariaDB?
[15:26:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to kockaadmiralac> An that makes more sense now. Building an index over such a column doesn’t seem necessary to me, though, unless weirdgloop has a wiki that needs this specific feature.
[20:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to tango_man> The Citizen sticky header issue should now be fixed
[20:54:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @posix_memalign if you've still got time, you could add https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14076 to the Monthly
[20:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @pskyechology has passed the beta mentoring and will gain production access imminently
[20:55:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> absolutely menacing move to do this 5 minutes before the 1st (in my timezone)
[20:57:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to rhinosf1> Nice! Will do that later today. Congrats Skye!
[21:36:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> 👏
[22:00:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Congrats @pskyechology and welcome aboard with full access!
[22:01:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Woo!
[22:01:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> Thank you! Happy to finally be able to fulfill my wish of blowing up some databases c:
[22:02:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> You should have a GitHub invite also btw.
[22:02:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> yup
[22:02:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Baby's first prod takedown when
[22:02:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to pskyechology> Almost forgot that part, the most important part, lol.
[22:02:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Do you want Cloudflare access also btw?
[22:03:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> yes, that'd be useful
[22:03:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to pskyechology> Congrats!
[22:03:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144716926854119594.webp?size=48
[22:03:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> brb merging broken PRs into main
[22:04:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> What about you @abaddriverlol seeing as how we forgot that last time lol
[22:05:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol, replying to cosmicalpha> I wouldn't mind, but not sure what I could do with it
[22:05:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> domains go brr
[22:05:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> you could investigate who enabled web anyalytics lol
[22:06:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <abaddriverlol> lmao
[22:06:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> (it was CA)
[22:09:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @abaddriverlol @pskyechology sent both of you CF invites to your wikitide.org emails.
[22:11:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @pskyechology onboarding should be complete
[22:12:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to cosmicalpha> @technology-team doesn't ping me on mattermost :(
[22:14:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to pskyechology> Updated ldap, shell, and email groups finished on-wiki, added CF, GH, added to staffwiki, added phorge badge, and to appropriate acl groups, and yes I updated groups on mattermost so should now. I think I got everything? lol
[22:14:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> oh and discord did that too.
[22:14:54] <MacFan4000>	 I just did IRC
[22:14:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> woohoo!
[22:15:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> oh speaking of
[22:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> can I have a cloak on IRC
[22:15:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Was just gonna say thanks MacFan
[22:15:10] <MacFan4000>	 sure
[22:15:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> You got it macfan or need me to?
[22:15:23] <MacFan4000>	 @miraheze/Skye (or @WikiTide?)
[22:15:55] <Skye>	 miraheze
[22:17:17] <MacFan4000>	 I've now requested it, staff will apply it when they have time
[22:17:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> @pskyechology let me know if I missed something. I'm off for now.
[22:17:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> will do!
[22:17:44] <Skye>	 cheers, MacFan!
[22:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to cosmicalpha> dont we have a checklist lol?
[22:18:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Yeah but I didn't add it to the task lol. Its more needed for infra anyway since that is a lot more onboarding lol
[22:22:22] <MacFan4000>	 it's now done Skye
[22:23:01] <Skye>	 woah that was quick
[22:23:03] <Skye>	 thanks again!
[22:59:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tango_man, replying to abaddriverlol> nice