[00:19:16] Hello [00:20:07] Do you have deleted wikis restoration for personal research? [00:21:20] Please don't say Archive.org or Wayback Machine because they don't offer pre deleted page, in other words, a second or last edit before wiped out [06:11:01] H [09:16:21] [1/3] Anyone aware of what "subwiki" is? A requestor asks if we have that feature, and explains: [09:16:21] [2/3] ```A subwiki is just another wiki under the main wiki instance. Each subwiki will have its separate pages and tags.``` [09:16:21] [3/3] I have never heard of this. [09:20:34] [1/2] Ah, nevermind: https://superuser.com/questions/736739/is-it-possible-to-create-subwikis-with-mediawiki [09:20:34] [2/2] ```No, this is not possible within MediaWiki. The closest you would get is using custom namespaces (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Using_custom_namespaces).``` [09:32:24] perhaps incubator? though tbf, i'm not fully sure what incubator is [10:09:42] Wikimedia Incubator is a wiki where projects can develope, and if deemed to align with the Wikimedia foundations mission, they can be become official wikis under the foundations umbrella. [10:10:11] i mean the extension [10:11:05] > It can also be adapted to be used for wiki virtualization, i.e. wikis inside the real wiki [10:11:12] [[mw:extension:wikimediaIncubator]] [10:11:17] c'mon, @link... [10:11:20] @link [10:11:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/extension:wikimediaIncubator [10:13:26] Oh... Didn't know that existed [20:47:57] [1/10] New list of domain expiry. [20:47:57] [2/10] 2025-10-05 16:10:16,542 - ssl - WARNING - https://wiki.eastsidegamers.no may no longer be a mediawiki site [20:47:57] [3/10] 2025-10-05 16:13:12,753 - ssl - WARNING - https://wiki.fracturedfranchise.com may no longer be a mediawiki site [20:47:57] [4/10] 2025-10-05 16:21:02,905 - ssl - ERROR - https://glaswiki.glaslotsen.de has expired: NameResolutionError [20:47:58] [5/10] 2025-10-05 16:22:39,087 - ssl - WARNING - https://wiki.hwfib.com may no longer be a mediawiki site [20:47:58] [6/10] 2025-10-05 16:24:16,301 - ssl - WARNING - https://wiki.junkstore.xyz may no longer be a mediawiki site [20:47:58] [7/10] 2025-10-05 16:29:46,074 - ssl - WARNING - https://wiki.ninonline.com may no longer be a mediawiki site [20:47:59] [8/10] 2025-10-05 16:32:41,668 - ssl - ERROR - https://fanon.polandballwiki.com has expired: NameResolutionError [20:47:59] [9/10] 2025-10-05 16:32:42,178 - ssl - ERROR - https://small.polandballwiki.com has expired: NameResolutionError [20:47:59] [10/10] 2025-10-05 16:39:46,820 - ssl - ERROR - https://www.tagpedia.jp has expired: NameResolutionError [20:49:00] cheers [20:49:57] will go through it tmrw in school when i got nothing better to do [20:51:36] We have more than 660 custom domains. Suppose 50% of all wikis don't renew after a year, will get 1 expiry per day on average. The number is lower in practice (about 0.8 expiry per day). [20:52:07] wonder what the crats of these wikis are up to [20:54:54] Definitely something worth automating. I guess RequestSSL can insert jobs into the job queue to check them periodically. If there are no massive failures (ruling out a MH outage) and the check fails twice in a row (in case something went wrong), the wiki can be automatically removed (with human approval?). [20:56:15] Most just left I assume. There's also https://www.junkstore.xyz and I don't know what happened to it. [22:18:03] Is there any way to restore Reception Wikis and their pages for my personal research? [22:19:16] You've asked that before. [22:19:25] True [22:19:29] I assume the answer you got then still stands. [22:21:06] Because one did argue that one try to consult here [22:30:00] [1/4] The Reception wikis were hard banned. They were then deleted. Not sure if there has been kept any archives, but I highly doubt it. Perhaps @agentisai would know that. [22:30:01] [2/4] Besides the technical availability - restoring them would go against the community ban (imho) so I doubt that, even if there were any archives available - they would be restored (even as read only). [22:30:01] [3/4] But that is my personal view. [22:30:01] [4/4] You could search what is left of it on archive.org, and what has moved to other platforms (if any) [22:31:16] I don't want archive.org as they won't save any last edit prior deletion [22:32:36] They could have, as the wikis were first closed, to give the admins a chance to download the xml's and images, before deletion. [22:32:58] (That is normal procedures) [22:50:18] [1/2] you need to look for public wiki buckups in archive itself, not wayback machine [22:50:19] [2/2] there's nothing else left of them [22:50:49] whether those have those last edit you talk about, highly unlikely [22:51:30] several people tried to backup them right after ban and import to other places [22:52:04] from here only Tali64 might give a pointer since he works on reception wikis outside of Miraheze [22:53:26] there's nothing else to add to this matter so it would be appreciated you won't repeat this topic [23:01:03] Frankly continuing to ask over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity [23:01:30] There is absolutely 0 chance we have held on to a backup for 3 years. Check Internet Archive and see if they have some [23:01:48] Other than that we will NOT assist further regarding Reception wikis [23:01:52] Understood? [23:02:44] @letsgo3942 [23:18:15] I will say again, just so there's zero doubt - they will not be restored on miraheze, full stop, zero exceptions. [23:19:48] [1/2] You were advised to email tech@miraheze.org to see if a copy of the xml is still around somewhere, but there's virtually no chance this many years out. [23:19:48] [2/2] Asking in this channel will not get you a copy of the xml [23:22:05] (that's not what they asked for in their email) [23:23:48] IA will be your only recourse, as we purged unused swift containers as recently as a couple of months ago. [23:24:46] I dont even think ReceptionWikis would of been on swift [23:25:24] yeah I see no reason why we would keep a copy of their XML around then