[00:45:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido, replying to thewwrnerdguy> should i switch to semantic wiki? lol
[00:46:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> a client of mine uses semantic mediawiki. i wish they didn't
[00:55:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to payadorperseguido> Oh noooooo
[00:55:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> That one is significantly worse
[00:55:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> To the point it’s really the only restricted extension you’re more likely than not to be denied for
[00:56:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> You need to buy me a lot of DoorDash to turn that one on /j
[00:57:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> I thought Assistant Stewards can't even turn it on
[00:57:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> what are some of the issues with cargo?
[00:57:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to thewwrnerdguy> only if it's not private
[00:58:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pskyechology> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1481818593711755305/image.png?ex=69b4b29b&is=69b3611b&hm=36660165ad922a9ae358bda75cb43762734be675daa413b561c83943f48bf449&
[00:58:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> LOL love the specific smw exclusion
[00:58:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> sorry pix
[01:00:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> I decided that rather than try to grok each individual thing in SMW I would just write "the whole thing"
[01:02:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> chat wtf is he saying and does he need a mental health specialist
[01:03:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> wtf is who saying
[01:04:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> As the one who drafted the policy text, including coming up with the list of powers that are so cursed that they are truly exclusively for Stewards, rather than individually evaluation the 300,000 or so individual capabilities that Semantic MediaWiki offers, in the text I just said "anything to do with Semantic MediaWiki[; just, don't]".
[01:04:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> am i hallucinating the message by harej about groking it
[01:05:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> Prior to its usage by xAI, the word "grok" meant "To fully and completely understand something in all of its details and intricacies." (Wiktionary)
[01:05:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> ruined another beautiful thing for us 😔
[01:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to payadorperseguido> [1/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_manage_structured_data#Comments_on_Cargo
[01:07:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to payadorperseguido> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006789349498699827/1481820957269164112/image.png?ex=69b4b4cf&is=69b3634f&hm=96e64a292e47ebbe977907fe8b99b26ee733ea2a93f6205356af419b33505471&
[01:08:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> how many is too many? 100, 1000, 100.000?
[01:09:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to payadorperseguido> 300 to 400 IIRC. Saving a page with this many Cargo stores led to a server timeout on Blue Archive Wiki.
[01:09:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] So now they are split into subpages like https://bluearchive.wiki/wiki/Banner_List/Banners_of_2022. 
[01:09:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] In contrast Bucket can save 400+ rows in less than 2 seconds.
[01:10:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> And I should note that before server timeouts it takes a 20 second wait for the page to save.
[01:18:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> LOL ngl i forgot about that, but it is funny
[01:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I doubt I ever enabled it on any requests but I’m gonna go back and check anyways
[01:20:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> jail if you did
[01:21:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> ...what's the name of the committee on enwp that deals with naughty sysops
[01:21:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> ArbCom?
[01:22:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [1/2] can we get oneeeeeee 🥺 
[01:22:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [2/2] just to mess with you <3
[01:22:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Administrator misconduct is in their purview yeah
[01:23:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Before enwiki made admin recall a formal policy and not an opt in, AC was the only body capable of forcibly desysoping a user (for conduct reasons I mean, Stewards and bureaucrats can still act in emergencies)
[01:23:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> We don’t have a great history with committees sadly
[01:23:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> as a lover of redundant administrative bodies and titles
[01:24:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> looking at you CoCC
[01:25:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> says the legal document-less steward that now has that legal document
[01:25:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> (Not actually sure what specifically you’re applying this to haha)
[01:26:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> (Also, my NDA doesn’t cover Stewardship, it’s explicitly Tech only)
[01:26:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> oh right I forgot it does that
[01:27:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> womp womp
[01:27:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> eh
[01:27:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If I do go for RfS one day I get to sign my soul to WikiTide twice over
[01:28:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> flex?
[01:28:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Why not
[01:29:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> [1/2] redundant positions 
[01:29:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to pixldev> [2/2] i hope to frick there's gonna be a next but as it stands it don't look like it
[01:40:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to pskyechology> AS you mean?
[01:59:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [1/3] i'll this here too
[01:59:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [2/3] sorry if this sounds like a total noob (which i am lol) question
[01:59:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <payadorperseguido> [3/3] is it possible through cargo to show the whole table and add a dynamic filter above it? to allow users selecting different filters to decide what they wanna see on the table?
[02:10:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to payadorperseguido> Please be more patient. There is no need to ask the same question(s) in 2 different places.
[02:12:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to pskyechology> I'd love to just have a promote to full steward option and/or convert existing cosigned NDA to full coverage on turning 18
[02:13:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Having people re-sign on 18 seems silly, but I need to review contract law on this
[02:18:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> smells like a "not without a clause saying you can" situation
[02:21:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yeah, that'll require a board decree, but it'll be easy to approve
[02:21:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> For the NDA
[02:25:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I mean, probably less of a bother to just sign a new one
[08:15:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Have we done fixing PortableInfobox for Parsiod?
[08:15:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Just found out that OA closed the task
[08:39:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha, replying to songngu.xyz> A working patch exists thanks to OA that just needs finalized.
[10:15:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I plan to implement the remaining tests this weekend then it shall be good to go (I mainly closed that task so upstream didn't feel the need to respond; not like they were planning on anyway, but alas)
[12:35:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> So in theory we should be able to use it on VisualEditor soon?
[16:48:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> _no theory needed, it works :P_