[00:03:10] [1/3] They do release recordings of past presentations (e.g. Labster [did one on Miraheze in 2024](https://www.youtube.com/live/B1wcWLHFJpg?t=18346s)). [00:03:10] [2/3] The [program](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Spring_2026#Program) is public and I think most of these have to do with backend things (e.g. extension development), which is probably not as interesting to wiki editors. [00:03:10] [3/3] Jonathan Lee (aka Cook) will do a presentation on scrapers whose content is based in a [blog](https://weirdgloop.org/blog/clankers) which non-technical folks might find interesting. [00:04:58] Thank you for the links! I'll check them out - more knowledge is always better than less knowledge 🫑 [00:36:45] Wait, Cook is at MUDCon? [01:03:01] Whos thats cool [01:15:53] Yep. Doing 2 presentations (1 long 1 short) as well. [01:16:22] Oooo [01:16:51] am so watching that [01:23:18] Hype! πŸ‘€ [02:00:06] hiiiiiiiiiiiiii [02:13:12] that MUDcon will be awesome [02:13:14] will watch [02:30:19] It’s being streamed on YouTube [17:40:31] @posix_memalign not sure you'll get the ping but just wanted to let you know that the Forsaken wiki highlight, I basically just copy+pasted the nomination on the talk page [17:40:52] and the reason the logo contest was on highlight was because I couldn't figure how to move it to "what's happening" [17:41:08] at first I thought I could look at older issues but its all converted to
stuff [17:41:16] so I kinda forgot about it and moved [17:41:17] on [17:43:56] they get converted to their html outputs as the final edit to ensure they dont change due to templates changing [17:44:09] yeah [17:44:10] you can use the edit before that instead [17:45:01] if only there were a button to view the page's history where you could see all the edits that have been made to the page [17:45:15] I should make a Steward Request to have that implemented [17:46:50] sorry bub i think thats a tech matter so go fix it [17:49:27] [1/2] okay done wow look at how productive I am [17:49:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486059383678046432/image.png?ex=69c42026&is=69c2cea6&hm=bf371808435c15445057f4f317a1a27f2bf054684fccde9eda724fdd0736a2d3& [17:50:07] wow i think we should promote you to infra for being so awesome [17:50:48] brb making a ticket to make me owner of miraheze because of your endorsement [17:51:15] technically speaking I do think you get owner rights of the miraheze org on github as infra [17:51:49] sorry for the [17:52:14] did the ping to Petra wok? [17:53:30] yes [17:53:52] ok [17:54:13] did you reply to me BTw? [17:55:16] no but I did now [17:55:21] ok [17:55:26] I don't know cuz I cant see lol [17:56:10] you should get the equivalent of a ping when you are mentioned by name [17:56:16] hey @crystalite13 how many fingers am I holding up [17:56:30] uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [17:56:35] I forgot my contacts hold on [17:56:42] *blink blink* [17:56:47] ok I have them on [17:56:51] let me wear them overnight [17:56:55] *ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ* [17:57:02] they're overnight lenses [17:57:07] *ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ* [17:59:18] ok back [17:59:22] 4? [18:01:05] uhh idk I forgot [18:01:29] aw [18:01:40] so uh [18:01:47] hows being a meta admin? [18:03:02] Meta [18:04:23] I bet [18:16:28] [1/3] Well I would certainly bet meta admins getting a fair share of honey [18:16:28] [2/3] Get it? Because miraheze icon looks like an honeycomb [18:16:29] [3/3] Anyways I've been so busy I can't even translate nowdays [18:16:51] [1/2] And with the extra wiki...means extra workload rip [18:16:51] [2/2] Hey at least it's fun to discover things [18:18:17] [1/2] Oh I've meaning to ask the mhc wiki that will wikis that request not to be added to mhc be added [18:18:17] [2/2] Doesn't seem to be a policy for that last time I check [18:18:27] Miraheze communities* [18:18:40] mhc? [18:18:47] communities? [18:18:49] oh [18:19:32] I abbreviated it to mhc because it's simply long [18:19:45] uh huh [18:19:55] Would love it being added to the list of miraheze projects [18:20:00] At one point [18:20:16] You created a wiki? [18:20:26] Yeah I did [18:21:02] Do you have any created wiki on WikiOasis? [18:21:15] Here https://syncblade.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [18:21:21] bartomelow [18:21:29] who's that again? [18:21:32] [1/2] You're getting awfully nosy... [18:21:32] [2/2] Why do you ask [18:21:43] Yeah I don't really know em either [18:22:08] what's the display nam [18:22:15] bartomelow [18:22:20] Also the same [18:22:30] huh [18:22:35] @bartomelow ^ [18:22:57] im the crystalite [18:22:59] Just got curious since you're an steward there (or i believe so????) [18:23:11] wait what [18:23:26] [1/2] That information would be false. Let me clarify it. [18:23:26] [2/2] I'm only a moderator in the WikiOasis Discord server. [18:23:42] Oh [18:23:45] Though yes - I am NDAed with WikiOasis due to sensitive info [18:23:59] oh wait really [18:24:02] that's cooooooool [18:24:05] @zipppee can confirm if you want [18:24:17] Not really - you gotta watch your mouth at times [18:24:19] me when the funny "shut up" contract [18:24:31] wait skye [18:24:35] cant you DM me on IRC? [18:24:36] I must have mistaken you for zippy lok [18:24:49] I don't think that's possible [18:24:50] Hmm, alright [18:26:29] Petra is lurking in this channel btw (saw him created an local account on-wiki lol) [18:26:57] So crystalite pretty sure I heard you wanna be an wr one day [18:27:05] I wonder when will you practice for it [18:27:17] I did more on meta [18:27:25] and awayanwaynwaywnnn commented some [18:27:32] Oh, so it went unseen for me [18:27:39] I would love volunteer to fix the HORRIBLE editing experience on the Cosmos skin if I knew how [18:27:43] I forgot to add the link for one tho so it looks a lil silly [18:28:10] [1/2] download mediawiki and cosmos [18:28:10] [2/2] go crazy by trying changes you have no idea about [18:28:14] How does the cosmos skin look like [18:28:16] @pskyechology @pskyechology @pskyechology another one for the van [18:28:30] download mediawiki how [18:28:32] huh [18:28:35] Make it a bus since the van is too small fr [18:28:37] I MEANT TO SAY HUH [18:28:45] huh [18:28:49] mediawiki [18:28:54] i almost thought you found two other skye's to help [18:28:55] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki [18:28:58] that would be cool [18:28:59] I'll try doing it when I'm free [18:29:11] @pskyechology can't believe you have your own skye adventures wiki [18:29:13] cut to 6 months later [18:29:17] No way there would be 2 skye doppelgangers [18:29:19] no I just had to say your name 3 times to summon you [18:29:26] bart is kidnapped into tech [18:29:31] do i look like a mary that is bloody smh [18:29:31] you could do something really funny rn [18:29:46] She's kinda chill [18:29:48] What is it... [18:29:51] we all chill [18:29:52] idk maybe perhaps yes definitely no? [18:30:02] maybe no hopefully so? [18:30:03] well if we need some Skye doppelgangers [18:30:11] I got an idea.... [18:30:19] I see [18:30:30] Time to be the doppels [18:30:31] I also think I'll try doing changes to the Refreshed skin, I quite like it [18:30:37] @pskyechology ban them for impersonation NOW [18:30:38] wont work on this side of the pond muhehehe [18:30:45] 😭 [18:30:46] aye aye capitan [18:30:48] MWAH HAH HAH HAHA HAHAHAHA [18:30:51] IT IS I [18:30:56] oh no guys [18:30:57] tbf stuff that happens in most channels apart from team chat and slack and theoretically tech internal isn't ndaed [18:30:59] thank you @justanotherdarkmodeuser [18:31:04] its a skye doppleganger [18:31:05] there's like a line that shouldn't be crossed [18:31:11] but people mostly know how far to push [18:31:20] Interesting [18:31:25] tech internal is just my scratchpad [18:31:44] the funni proxy [18:31:47] I will take over the world [18:31:51] I wonder will you guys use mattermost for nda stuff in the future [18:31:54] no [18:31:55] slack is nicer [18:31:57] oh gosh darn golly [18:32:03] please SkyeDoppel1 [18:32:04] Oof, no access [18:32:06] don't do anything [18:32:10] nothing even happens in slack anyway [18:32:25] wait [18:32:32] [1/2] the only thing I have is incident.io yelling at me every week [18:32:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486070226213928991/image.png?ex=69c42a3f&is=69c2d8bf&hm=95c3254f11219f4de4f9a4876120009d22b607b2482fb6fb2ff8f961a8fd08fe& [18:32:32] um think [18:32:49] um [18:32:53] actually that reminds me I need to add slack as a grafana contact point [18:32:54] I steal all ur gids [18:33:00] GIFS [18:33:02] nooooooo [18:33:08] @pskyechology feel free to change my nickname back whenever [18:33:27] skye army must grow [18:33:32] LOL [18:33:48] @thewwrnerdguy ey ey join in too [18:33:52] Skye [18:34:17] hmm which skye is typing [18:34:18] someone rename me skye [18:34:18] I can't tell [18:34:19] I cant [18:34:21] too many skyes skye the skye [18:34:31] What in tarnation [18:34:33] rename mirahezerelay to skye [18:34:56] Come join the Skye army... [18:35:02] hello fellow skye [18:35:05] my discord account I mean! [18:35:08] Hi fellow skye [18:35:10] skye is actually just a massive sockfarm [18:35:13] OH NO [18:35:14] OH NO [18:35:18] SCHOOL [18:35:21] ah shit www-data has entered the chat [18:35:25] Bros cooked [18:35:36] www-data is my archnemesis [18:35:44] What did it do to ya [18:35:51] file permissions [18:35:58] the skyermy grows [18:36:04] I never wrote file perms into puppet so I have to chown everything to www-data all the time [18:36:15] live laugh love doing hard work manually instead of doing it right the first time [18:36:29] Lol, there might be enough skyes that nobody knows who is the real skye now [18:36:55] so what you're saying is I own the server? [18:37:05] nah only /var/www/mediawiki [18:37:07] yes I use /var/www [18:37:12] don't hate on me I can't be arsed to move it [18:37:51] [1/3] Now what are you guys doing on my wiki πŸ‘€ [18:37:52] [2/3] It's barebones as hell please don't judge lol [18:37:52] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486071567632044274/Screenshot_20260325_013702_Discord.jpg?ex=69c42b7f&is=69c2d9ff&hm=aa4bc42732e5155f7f8df0e8c3c93826bec1fee16240b4f8e5eb7f1355368553& [18:38:23] πŸ’€ [18:38:26] The same response as the 100 support posts in discord [18:38:45] you linked it in the chat [18:39:10] Yeah I know just curious what do people usually see when they check a new wiki [18:39:19] the main page [18:39:22] Is it the search bar? Or is it the buttons [18:39:30] Well second to the main page, of course [18:39:43] Because you'll have to stumble upon it [18:40:08] vector skin 😭 [18:40:12] I usually go to recentchanges when I'm looking at a new wiki [18:40:20] Other skins were horrid [18:40:28] Other admins told me so [18:40:30] Citizen the goat [18:40:45] good choice [18:41:40] three horsemen of death [18:42:11] The apocalypse has come for my wiki...shiver me timbers! [18:42:33] is random just lurking here lmao [18:43:10] [1/2] not the kangaroos!!! [18:43:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486072901659791450/image.png?ex=69c42cbd&is=69c2db3d&hm=8055502b9554f20ea9ffbad924d7b076df95ee3b44388f4ce653a8ba056c8df6& [18:43:17] Lol [18:43:38] Guys someone type my name in a linux command panel [18:43:47] Something funny will happen [18:43:47] I actually once did a unit test that ran `rm -rf / --no-preserve-root` to make sure my security was working [18:43:58] Dang [18:44:23] [1/9] ``` [18:44:23] [2/9] Command '-rm' not found, did you mean: [18:44:24] [3/9] command 'crm' from deb crmsh (4.3.1-1ubuntu3) [18:44:24] [4/9] command 'crm' from deb crm114 (20100106-10) [18:44:24] [5/9] command 'frm' from deb mailutils (1:3.14-1) [18:44:24] [6/9] command 'srm' from deb secure-delete (3.1-7) [18:44:25] [7/9] command 'vrm' from deb atfs (1.4pl6-15) [18:44:25] [8/9] command 'rm' from deb coreutils (8.32-4.1ubuntu1.3) [18:44:25] [9/9] Try: sudo apt install ``` [18:44:39] Oof... [18:44:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486073355227631778/Screenshot_20260324-154416.png?ex=69c42d29&is=69c2dba9&hm=a4472f4f0e37e6856d9ab899781b66d9303379964dd37d6bf196bdb6bee5dc05& [18:45:14] I have no idea why the font is like that [18:45:17] Looks eh to me [18:45:20] Cosmos is, Cursed [18:45:44] yup iirc it doesn't even have an accesskey for the edit button [18:46:28] Also the right rail still shows for some reason [18:47:22] [1/2] Guys don't delete me or you pc will fail- [18:47:23] [2/2] Tho cosmo looks meh in there [18:48:04] @pskyechology pls type my nickname on db181 to blow it up [18:48:12] Oh god [18:48:23] Since Cosmos was CA's first attempt on creating a skin i'll leg it slide [18:48:28] [1/7] ```PS C:\> rm C:\System32 [18:48:28] [2/7] rm : Cannot find path 'C:\System32' because it does not exist. [18:48:29] [3/7] At line:1 char:1 [18:48:29] [4/7] + rm C:\System32 [18:48:29] [5/7] + ~~ [18:48:30] [6/7] + CategoryInfo : ObjectNotFound: (C:\System32:String) [Remove-Item], ItemNotFoundException [18:48:30] [7/7] + FullyQualifiedErrorId : PathNotFound,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.RemoveItemCommand``` [18:48:51] wtf is a mysql [18:48:58] πŸ’€ [18:49:02] ok I see how you blew up db181 [18:49:03] dunno you should get rid of it [18:49:07] [1/2] Pretty sure system32 is windows [18:49:07] [2/2] I'm not too familiar with windows behind the scenes [18:49:08] also luckily for you i dont have db181 access [18:49:15] Yet [18:49:19] who is gonna miss db181 [18:49:23] nah we use mariadb :3 [18:49:23] while you're there blow up db192 [18:49:25] What's on db181 away [18:49:31] your mom [18:49:35] yeah but mysql and mariadb are interchangable unit names [18:49:36] I thinik [18:49:37] I just ran the command to remove C:\System32 and it failed [18:49:46] Oof [18:49:47] and my pc is still wor [18:49:59] Yeah windows has a safeguard [18:50:06] So people don't accidentally nuke me [18:50:08] And break their pce [18:50:17] no I mean I ran the command and this was the output [18:50:25] Oh alright [18:50:29] wtf is `censys-scanner.com` and why is it connecting to the db and how [18:50:39] I swear I did not open that database to the internet [18:50:42] LOL [18:50:53] Lol [18:50:56] oh well rip db11 [18:51:11] Tech nuking tech lol [18:51:27] [1/2] You don't see Refreshed having that issue cause the skin is so awesome and [18:51:28] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1486074988254462053/Screenshot_20260324-155056.png?ex=69c42eaf&is=69c2dd2f&hm=8cbe1e239b415a537f6918178b0af0d7756565ddf6d35c3a2e21ad8bc4ebdc12& [18:51:29] nah I've made enough things go boom for one week [18:51:34] parsoid breaks a lot it turns out [18:51:45] was a fun experiment but [18:51:49] i got too many complaints [18:51:53] idk made you think it was ready tbh [18:51:55] Oh that reminds me of someone wiki that had it on was breaking [18:52:02] Lol [18:52:08] the fact that I ship stuff like i work at a startup [18:52:09] What is even parsoid [18:52:22] idfk it sounded cool [18:52:23] so [18:52:26] pushed to prod [18:52:55] brb making an extension named CoolDatabaseExploderNotActuallyTrustMe for zippy [18:52:56] I swear one of these days WO will blow up because of "idfk it sounded cool" [18:53:03] that's why I have backups [18:53:06] coolname-driven-development [18:53:09] as long as it doesn't go to s3 and delete everything [18:53:21] because i don't back that up rn because I assume the built in object replication is good enough [18:53:21] That actually reminds me of a story that idk if it's behind nda to share or not, pretty funny tho [18:53:22] CoolS3Exploder 😍 [18:53:38] Oof [18:53:42] I'm not adding any extension with explode in its name btw [18:53:44] should clarify [18:53:56] @zipppee is that fine to share or you need me to elaborate in dms [18:54:04] LOL [18:54:07] dm me it verbatim [18:54:55] Done [18:56:23] [1/4] Got approval [18:56:24] [2/4] So you guys know the linux nuke command? [18:56:24] [3/4] Cocopuff once used another alt and dmed zippy for wiki improvements [18:56:24] [4/4] Zippy literally told him to -rm rf and that removes the french language package [18:56:30] And cocopuff..actually did [18:56:30] no but I told him as me [18:56:34] he believed it [18:56:39] it wasn't like i relayed it through anyone [18:56:42] He bought it yeah [18:56:42] he just believed it straight from me [18:56:44] πŸ’€ [18:56:59] LMAO [18:57:17] clearly we've got a genius on our hands [18:57:22] Never let an LTA become tech, this is what happens if you give an LTA unrestricted access 😭 [18:57:44] wikifarm more like ltafarm [18:58:02] Sockfarm even [18:59:08] hello my name is moviemonster nice to meet you [18:59:33] Uh hi moviemonsterthatistotallynotskye nice to see you too [18:59:47] cocopuff* [18:59:52] LMAO [19:00:25] [1/2] Though I seriously can't imagine being cocopuff [19:00:25] [2/2] Why the hell would you sock at your own farm [19:00:36] @pskyechology why the hell would you sock at your own farm? [19:01:06] cause i love messing with my users (i am sad and have nothing better to do) [19:02:23] Though is it common for someone just to come in and shuts down a wiki farm [19:02:31] :Pray: why is the only thing I use slack for dming foxy [19:02:41] I should convince tech to use it [19:02:47] and the board should stop doing stuff on discord 😭 [19:02:59] and the anti 2fa warriors should just enable 2fa lmao [19:03:11] Fr bro [19:03:14] It's not even that hard [19:03:26] And make it tougher for hackers to hack [19:03:55] Yep. Don't have the time to make proper responses rn but I do check discord once in a while. [19:04:32] [1/2] I hope I don't go on Miraheze Monthly [19:04:32] [2/2] My story is kind of a hell to tell tbh [19:04:49] bring back #meetings [19:04:58] make #meetings great again [19:05:05] sorry just spreading meetings propaganda [19:05:10] Abandoned for a full 2 years now... [19:05:32] it was so peak [19:06:03] How do you tell someone you just talk to people and get a farm stolen from an LTA while sounding decent for MM [19:06:17] You were there 2 years ago? [19:06:21] I certainly wasn't [19:07:14] I was vaguely aware of mh [19:08:42] Gonna sleep for the night. Bye [22:52:57] Crystalite13: is there a reason Proposal 1 and 2 in your RfC aren’t just the same proposal? As in, approving the policy change and text change in one go. Or is there a distinction I’m not grasping [23:22:11] thats still being edited, but also [23:22:17] proposal 1 is editing the policy [23:22:25] proposal 2 is just doing away with the policy