[00:59:19] pretty much although if you have a read that contradicts the following messages it may be useful [01:27:32] Yeah the read seems right, I read it as Hello! I’m having trouble opening or using my wiki in Russia. The site either won't load or runs very slowly. I’d like to know if this is normal or if there is an error that can be fixed, if you want I can reply to them in Russian asking for more information [01:31:02] we figured, since they seem to be editing away and asked another fairly banal question shortly after, that it was related to some 500x error blip and is probably nothing to be too worried about [01:31:23] a distinct reply to them that these blips can happen might be productive [01:31:54] possibly following up further to see if this read is too optimistic but if I got a message to that effect in english I'd assume the same [01:32:10] Alright, I can do that [01:33:53] Hello! Sometimes we can have blips in our servers which cause very minor and short periods of slowness or connectivity issues. If you are getting a specific error or having long periods of issues, please do let us know. is what i'll reply in russian [01:52:14] sounds good 👍 [03:29:03] Show me :D [04:45:04] i've decided [04:45:15] im too good for @thewwrnerdguy [04:45:19] im changing the nickname [04:45:36] um actually [04:45:53] i dont have an original nickname idea that isn't my original name which is boring in 2026 so nevermind wwr [04:57:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/New_Maintenance_Script_welcome_page#Proposal_2:_Elisapoly's_proposal_with_changes_by_Harej [05:03:28] Ooooo that's actually very neat and concise [05:05:28] Can I make a bit of adjustment on the proposal? Thonk [05:06:48] Eh, your name is fine [05:06:51] I've seen plenty worse [05:35:22] What kind of adjustment? [05:36:59] [1/2] Add more text like How to guide --> New to wiki editing? How-to guides [05:36:59] [2/2] And add Phorge for other technical assistance [05:50:14] check this out [05:51:11] the extra text thing sounds fine. I am wondering what the value of linking someone directly to the issue tracker is. They are more likely going to need help at the help desk, and something on there can be escalated to phorge as needed. [05:58:43] I tend to learn towards self-service as much as possible so if we can just directly link them to where they may need to go the better [06:00:25] Yes, and that should be balanced with not overwhelming someone who is probably a new user with too many links. I guess you could link directly to https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/1/ which is the "report bug" form [06:00:53] Also https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains for request a custom domain [06:01:23] That could work [10:56:51] as it is we already get enough people going straight to phorge for something that could be achieved with managewiki [14:15:46] They did reply back, "Thanks for the reply! The thing is, I have periods when the site works fine, while on other days it might not open at all—or if it does open, it consistently fails to load the photos." i wonder if it is Russia blocking us or if its an actual issue [14:42:35] that is more irregular and not sure how we could troubleshoot that one [14:42:46] if russia is blocking then they are very inconsistent about it [15:20:40] I wonder if its something Tech could look into? [15:21:11] I do know that Wikimedia is dealing with Russia blocks [15:23:17] there is no negotiating with roskomnadzor [15:24:49] Have you attempted bombarding them with cat gifs? [15:27:27] im thinking more "russian warship fuck off" [15:52:09] actually at the moment there is some pretty severe russian-based vandalism that is a sludge of IPs, accounts and wikis that seem deviant from their purpose [15:52:46] if you do not have cvtwiki access zppix I may very well just grant in the interest of reviewing it [16:04:32] Okay [16:04:36] I do not [16:15:31] what did i do to deserve this [16:22:43] ok I have been a bit of an idiot and conflated russian with ukrainian on a recent lta [16:23:37] There are a couple letters in Ukrainian that Russian doesn't have, if that helps to differentiate. [16:24:19] without auto translation I am completely hopeless on most things eastern european [16:24:43] cyrillic anything confuses me [16:25:35] although on one occasion a related IP vandal is assigned to the czech republic yet geolocates into the middle of russia [16:25:36] I mean they are pretty simialr lol [16:25:52] lol what [16:26:04] the geolocator might be off ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:26:14] I'd say so... [16:26:41] but the ip vandal at least has a consistent character that I have a slightly better idea of now [16:26:52] and I suspect it correlates with account based shenanigans reported on sr/cu as well [16:27:25] pity we lost our most active abuse filter wizard as there are common properties that would cause them inconvenience [16:27:35] I could try it but am less than ideal for using it [16:27:58] I was gonna say I could probably see if I could figure it out or if anything I think void knows AF too [16:28:17] it will take closer look at their patterns anyway first [16:28:32] at least I am now operating with the right language in mind [16:28:58] Tbh I even sometimes get Ukraian and Russian confused they are so similar. [16:29:50] as far as pattern there is a lot of material just off recent ip vandalism on meta which can be traced via the block logs [16:30:15] I've taken a fairly blunt hammer approach to what is mostly a ukrainian mobile service [16:31:36] that's such an odd thing, they must have an odd mobile setup in UKR because in theory there shouldnt be tons of IP hopping [16:32:10] its about as obnoxious as t-mobile to be honest [16:32:26] there is probably some connect to public wifi and have at it shenanigans going on [16:32:48] T-mobile I thinnk piggybacks off other carriers so that makes some sense [16:32:53] these days its not too hard to come across providers just bundling in that way and making IP a messy identifier and tool though [16:33:04] cgnat is fun [16:33:56] NAT in general is annoying lol [16:42:05] on another occasion according to whois gateway, a romanian assigned ip named moscow infrastructure [16:46:22] Where are you finding these weird IPs lol [16:52:11] all comes back to the one special character doing stuff across wikis [16:52:36] who is definitely operating in a way to use a not yet blocked range temporarily and then adjusts to something more convenient [16:53:03] hmmm interesting [16:54:26] I always enjoy seeing "risky block" in RC lol [16:55:08] on occasion I like to trip up certain ltas with pattern consistencies with a logged in hardblock [16:55:26] usually I only do this on looser platforms like telepedia or oasis [16:55:35] on this occasion the collateral potential seems sufficiently thin to justify [16:57:40] 46.200.108.29 - 29-108-200-46.pool.ukrtel.net okay what is this hostname convention, lol flipping the IP backwards in the hostname is a choice [21:25:22] [1/9] > Host addresses are represented by domain names that have all four labels [21:25:22] [2/9] > specified. Thus data for Internet address 10.2.0.52 is located at [21:25:22] [3/9] > domain name 52.0.2.10.IN-ADDR.ARPA. The reversal, though awkward to [21:25:22] [4/9] > read, allows zones to be delegated which are exactly one network of [21:25:23] [5/9] > address space. For example, 10.IN-ADDR.ARPA can be a zone containing [21:25:23] [6/9] > data for the ARPANET, while 26.IN-ADDR.ARPA can be a separate zone for [21:25:23] [7/9] > MILNET. Address nodes are used to hold pointers to primary host names [21:25:24] [8/9] > in the normal domain space. [21:25:24] [9/9] https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc1035/#section-3.5 [21:29:59] although keeping it flipped is a choice the ISP made, probably it meant less complications on their end [21:30:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225560610628964423/1534674978094715090/image.png?ex=6a74fcf3&is=6a73ab73&hm=39f6476728bbda7ae521c9e17cc2c559c616e61262cf67b0e1f2d472b8e1eb8a& [21:52:44] its just not something I see very often [21:58:27] my ISP's notation is kinda insane :70_b_dogkek: