[06:29:12] <MacFan4000>	 Looks like the open RfS now meets the requirements to be closed as successful
[06:43:47] <MacFan4000>	 (will have to be handless by reception, void, kiju, or raidarr as uninvolved)
[06:43:56] <MacFan4000>	 handled*
[08:43:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it is eligible in that sense, but has two remaining questions
[08:43:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I'd certainly like the fire support sooner than later, the menu is a little stacked up
[12:30:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser, replying to raidarr> [1/2] is miraheze burning due to those steward requests 😂 
[12:30:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justanotherdarkmodeuser, replying to raidarr> [2/2] i do hope pix is able to answer when his wifi is back
[14:25:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to MacFan4000> To some extent Void has to be at least assisting in onboarding as the only one with access to role Stewards in MCR
[14:26:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to justanotherdarkmodeuser> It is back, frankly I just didn’t really want to deal with the very dense wall of text that was questions 4 yet, but I’ll try and get it out of the way today
[14:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> If @dmehus would maybe be able to reformat that into a list/more traditional RfC format to be easier for me to parse and analyze would be much appreciated
[16:02:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <dmehus, replying to pixldev> It is a bit of a big wall of text, yes. I'll try and reformat that shortly into a more human-parsable way 🙂
[18:21:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @dmehus answered to what I can answer
[18:31:58] <dmehus>	 @pixldev, okay, sounds good :)
[19:34:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I'll probably poke around this a bit later tonight, but if anyone likes updating tables and charts, a few pages are open for editing with the Pix RfS closure (Stewards/Chart, Assistant Steward pages, Global Admin chart)
[19:35:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> And to clarify for those who may be confused, on wiki Steward user groups will not be assigned for a little bit, pending some legal paperwork stuff being resolved and doned first
[21:09:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> day 450443 of complaining that all of these chart/list pages are manually updated
[21:10:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> How would you automate it anyway? Special:Log entries?
[21:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to wikitideharej> well you could have one data page. then instead of updating all of the charts/lists, you just update that one page
[21:15:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> And would that data page be usable by EasyTimeline, which is a Perl script awkwardly grafted onto MediaWiki?
[21:16:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> `frame:preprocess` my beloved
[21:16:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> also I think in 1.46 you can make svgs directly from Lua
[21:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to thewwrnerdguy> Yep. https://exttest.mirabeta.org/wiki/User%3APetraMagna/timeline
[21:33:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> Here's a fuller listing of charts by the way https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Harej/charts
[21:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> [1/2] With a few more tweaks it'll render better than EasyTimeline. It probably already does since the blurry text rendering in the extension is terrible.
[21:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to posix_memalign> [2/2] With that said I'm not a fan of depending on 1000+ lines of vibecoded Lua. The codebase can be significantly simplified if we don't inherit the easytimeline syntax though.
[21:35:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> I don't really see the need in preserving EasyTimeline syntax. It sucks
[21:36:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> I'd rather eat the one-time conversion cost into a more standard format
[22:50:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I'm on board for ending the reliance on easytimeline in favor of something easier to maintain
[22:53:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> yeah so might as well kill two birds with one stone and do the data page at the same time as converting to svg format
[22:55:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> I think probably the best way to do it is to have each table/chart have a link at the end like (_edit this data_) which takes you to a json page containing the relevant data
[22:56:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> and then the data page can be updated manually and we hope we don't have too many bytes
[22:58:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> this method would kinda be a pain to edit but I think it would be much better than the current system
[23:00:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> JSON or Lua table?
[23:01:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> I think JSON's slightly easier to edit because it does the formatting for you
[23:03:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> What's the shape? `[{"name": "Example", "roles": {"ass-steward": ["2020-01-01-2022-05-31"], "steward": ["2022-05-31-2023-12-31", "2024-08-15-present"]}}]` ?
[23:06:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Please
[23:07:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to wikitideharej> :( that’s mean
[23:07:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy> yeah like that structure, although it would be the full group name (`assistant-steward`) and I think it'd be a different separator than `-`
[23:07:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wikitideharej> Mean to whom, Example?
[23:07:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to pixldev> it means Example is now a pretty good steward
[23:08:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> yay..?
[23:21:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thewwrnerdguy, replying to wikitideharej> also for the tables, languages spoken and irc nickname
[23:39:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @thewwrnerdguy what section should a guide for shared file repos go in https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/How-to_guides