[00:11:39] I have my own gripes about that to be honest, mainly with say the lede of the Stewards policy page [00:12:10] [1/3] Is there a single person in this room who actually believes that [00:12:10] [2/3] > Stewards have the highest level of software access within the Miraheze community. Users with the "Steward" flag have permission and authority to use any part of the MediaWiki interface on any wiki. [00:12:11] [3/3] Should be the first line pitch of what a Steward is [00:12:32] That of course needs to the issue: how the hell do you explain Stewardship in a sentance [00:12:36] maybe if you introduced yourself with a meow then people would find you less scary [00:12:44] woof [00:13:10] oh no, it's a pitbull [00:13:36] is he gonna start rapping very badly [00:14:43] hell no [00:14:51] im a karaoke person [00:14:57] aw, I wanted to hear some bad rap [00:21:56] i think a bunch of people should become miraheze volunteers so we can have a karaoke night in the volunteer server since that has a VC [00:24:33] in that case, could you please give some feedback on my practice wiki requests :shyplead: [00:24:41] look at that face [00:24:46] how can you say no [00:25:38] absolutely shameless segue [00:25:44] good job! [00:25:55] googling "segue" right now [00:26:13] it is, but also I've been waiting for over a day and would like literally any feedback before I keep going [00:26:13] Italian for "follows"? [00:26:18] if you've seen a youtuber with any amount of sass you know the word [00:26:29] "to move smoothly and without interruption from one topic, song, or activity to another" [00:26:42] https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/segue [00:26:55] eg a youtuber segue into a sponsorship [00:27:01] Fair enough [00:27:06] yay wiktionary [00:27:27] I'm heading off to dinner now, I'll check a few while I'm there, are there any in particular you'd like me to look at? [00:27:43] these in particular [00:28:15] thank you! [00:28:26] roger roger [00:28:41] now while im walking to dinenr someone give me ideas for karaoke songs [00:28:55] all song knowledge instantly left my mind [00:28:59] california gurls [00:29:03] actually, born this way [00:32:24] also, as an excuse for a Fun Side Project™ I decided to be over filling out my template manually and instead make a tool that takes a wiki request id and populates the template fields for me. I initially wanted it to be a web page, but CORS shot that down very fast, so cli it is (unless there's an actual API to get wiki requests, but I don't think there is) [00:34:45] it's actually been a great excuse to get used to writing autocompleter functions [00:35:11] if there's an api then [[special:apisAndBox]] would help you find it [00:35:12]

[00:35:33] I tried using the /w/api.php stuff, but I got an error saying that the Special namespace doesn't have real pages [00:36:01] yeah so it wouldn't be the content of the page that you get [00:36:29] but if there's a special page there's usually also an api endpoint for that special page [00:37:14] eh, I've got it almost done now (all the hard parts are done), so the only real reason to find the apis atp would be to make it a website, but I highly doubt anyone else will ever use it [00:38:28] it sounds like something that could make wiki request practice a lot easier for everyone tbh [00:38:58] well, I'll keep people updated on it then [00:53:25] [1/3] alright, it's in a state I won't be totally embarrassed by, if anyone wants to play around with it I'm taking feedback [00:53:25] [2/3] (note: the help isn't done, and it's missing a lot of polish) [00:53:25] [3/3] https://github.com/tsj845/miraheze-pwr-gen [03:05:21] the help pages are less incomplete now, so it should actually be usable without needing to read the code [03:07:39] no real issues with your response, will give more detailed feedback later but got caught up (procrastinating on important work 😅 ) [03:07:47] yay! [03:07:56] noway, me too [03:08:12] w studenting [03:25:46] [1/2] Now that the 1.46 upgrade is almost complete, @pixldev want to come up with a plan for this idea? Do we do it on Saturday or Sunday? At what time? Through which software? Discord works but I think something you can join with a web interface is better for those who don't use Discord. [03:25:46] [2/2] Anyone else who wants to help out is welcome as well. I think @janebuzjane also mentioned she's interested in organizing a meeting. [03:27:51] the only service I am aware of that allows joining a voice call without an account is Zoom [03:30:55] I think Jitsi and perhaps some other open source video conference software would allow for joining calls in a web interface. [03:31:56] I had forgotten about Jitsi [03:32:55] I don't see why it wouldn't work [03:38:46] [1/3] Jitsi, mirotalk, BigBlueButton, and there's probably more. [03:38:46] [2/3] The concern of course is that no one is familiar with any of them and we don't know how they scale. We also don't know many people will join. [03:38:47] [3/3] IIRC the WeirdGloop yap was capped at 50 people because it did not have nitro. It took quite some effort to increase that cap. [03:41:12] it looks like the current server level should allow for 150 people? [03:41:29] which seems like it should be plenty [03:41:44] Assuming we want to use discord [03:42:10] what about doing a live stream on youtube or something? [03:42:28] at least for those with no plan to talk [03:44:27] It works too, but ideally we want this to be interactive [03:45:21] I was thinking it would be a stream in addition to a voice call, so that people who don't want to talk/use whatever service can still participate in some capacity [03:45:41] Yeah that's a good idea. For previous WG yaps there is always someone who streams it on YouTube. [03:46:24] what is WG? [03:47:38] WeirdGloop [04:00:10] Oh dang [04:00:22] Is MH meetings gonna see some use? [04:37:50] flashbacks lol. [04:38:19] interesting, scheduling a time people from the community would actually show up would be, somethign [04:38:41] I wouldn't be opposed to doing something to gauge potential interest before moving ahea [04:38:56] I'll look at this more in the morning and set a reminder [05:07:29] I'd imagine the live format will make it much more interactive than an async channel. We'll see. [05:09:43] [1/2] I made a publicly editable page: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PetraMagna/upgrade_party. Feel free to edit and add more ideas. [05:09:43] [2/2] Honestly I'd be happy if 5 people show up as long as there is a decent amount of interaction. [06:27:37] Could also be described as our fellow host but for-profit, a version of miraheze that could have been but through a mirror darkly. [06:28:13] (Jokes aside, WG is great and an excellent partner in building the good while stopping the bad from proliferating) [12:23:07] I can make a slide deck for the agendaaaa if we'd like [12:51:55] yeah I'm usually not available to talk but I'd like to be able to be part of it through the chat [15:19:30] barring any bugs, I'm done with the CLI [15:22:04] I think I'll make a very small webserver and use that to do the scraping so that it can be a website [17:47:43] as I look into things, it seems that making any website interface will be very hacky without cooperation from MH servers. I'll still do my best, but it will likely stop working suddenly for no apparent reason whenever cloudflare issues a challenge [18:48:45] well, the webserver is up, the website isn't done but the server is scraping wiki requests [19:28:25] [1/2] I was planning to show new features live on a test wiki lol. [19:28:26] [2/2] Probably not worth the effort to make slides if we can just edit a wiki directly to show what the new features are. But maybe there is something else worthy of inclusion in slides but cannot be shown directly in a demo. [19:32:31] Moreso just an agenda slide maybe so we don't get too off-track + ppl who come in late can know what we're doing 🤔