[00:05:05] hi [00:06:12] i just got on what happen to moviepedia [00:08:48] ok well i am gonna go clean it up [00:15:19] hi in miraheze how do i be a global sysop [00:15:52] dog [00:15:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_global_rights [00:15:54] cat [00:16:06] ^^ dogg https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_global_rights [00:16:14] how do i be a wiki creator [00:17:03] you do it at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions [00:17:51] andrew13, I personally do strongly recommend against requesting this user group, given your recent history as I suspect the community will not look favourably on it [00:18:11] @dmehus check dms [00:18:22] Cocopuff2018, looking [00:19:15] should i be a global sysop or wiki creator [00:19:24] no [00:19:43] global is more advanced [00:19:49] lets go ender dragon [00:20:11] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/88c4a1dfb7ed8d62cddbf4a784bb4e19/image.png [00:20:55] i strongly don't recommend global rights however maybe in the near future For wiki creator [00:22:45] i do not know how to properly format the request [00:22:52] fo what? [00:22:59] wiki creator [00:23:32] i would recommend waiting a few months before requesting as @dmehus has said [00:24:05] I already requested but the infomation i type does not show [00:24:34] it has a good chance of not being successful, however if you wait a few months and show better behavior and that you understand wiki creator i would be willing to Semi-weak oppose [00:25:12] I am new to editing [00:25:17] without vandelism [00:25:23] i started ediiting in march 2021 [00:25:27] your best bet is to start a wiki and get to know the communioty (: [00:25:55] should editor that stop doing vandelism from april 2021 be a wiki creator [00:26:25] i would not recommend it at the moment [00:26:38] is it because i am new [00:27:07] however if you show us you have better behavior lets say a few months your chances of wiki creator can be higher and also show that you understand policy's [00:27:55] why do i not have better behavier [00:28:46] also i am currently do not edit frequently to help the wiki [00:28:57] well it just takes time you should get to know the community more and show better behavior' [00:29:20] do i not show better behavier because it takes time [00:29:43] well it just takes time lets put it that way [00:30:04] see this [00:30:06] Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/289a8889d4b769fe5dd28b18b02f6e24/image.png [00:30:45] ok. [00:31:07] well i would not recommend it you can still withdraw it @andrew13 [00:31:15] how do i withdraw it [00:31:19] or recommend wiki creator yet [00:31:23] Do you want me to do it? [00:31:27] @dmehus can do you want to? [00:31:32] I can withdraw it for you [00:31:54] do you want it withdrawn? @andrew13, plus if you wait a few months chances are better of getting it [00:32:06] no [00:32:09] i mean yes\ [00:32:37] @dmehus ^^ [00:33:07] do i just delete my request [00:33:11] no [00:33:11] in edit [00:33:14] no [00:33:23] wait for someone to withdraw it [00:33:38] what withdraw mean [00:39:35] :Done: [00:39:52] Bukkit: uh what happened with the formatting? [00:40:34] Uh- [00:40:49] Why did the header go down there- [00:41:02] it seems to have duplicated the page [00:41:15] no idea but perhaps some sort of edit conflict wierdness? [00:42:24] I guess [00:42:35] Anyways, I fixed it [00:42:41] 👍 [00:53:11] andrew3, are you wanting to withdraw your `wikicreator` request? [00:53:22] s/andrew3/andrew13 [00:53:22] dmehus meant to say: andrew13, are you wanting to withdraw your `wikicreator` request? [09:45:36] Why my wiki page keep not updating? [09:45:47] It keep showing did not reach the server [09:49:02] Can you share the exact error? [09:49:44] I'm guessing using VisualEditor. Can you try wikitext? [09:52:56] Yes [09:53:02] I use source editor [09:53:26] VisualEditor != Source Editor [09:54:47] And then now I copied all and then refresh the pages and paste it and then it worked [09:55:27] So maybe I didn’t save it for too long. I think I edit it and then sudden have things to do and when I went back, it alr past 1 hours without saving it [12:10:49] Universal_Omega: I don't know what happened, but Cargo is working normally now on test3 [12:11:14] the internal error disappeared and the data is being stored correctly now [14:29:40] Yeah, VisualEditor has two modes, Visual Editing and Source Editing mode. I always use VisualEditor, but never use Visual Editing mode and only use the Source Editing mode. [14:31:10] lol I just realized that I replied from my Matrix.account account (not that it's a big deal) :P [14:48:07] Hrm, I wonder if Omega fixed it upstream maybe? 🤔 [14:58:12] why are there two Dmehus'? "dmehus" and "Doug[m]"? [15:03:54] doug[m] is dmehus' matrix account [15:22:03] Lake: yeah, thanks :) [15:31:58] dmehus what should I put on my side nav bar? [16:47:23] TheBurningPrincess, I'd say a link to your wiki's policy page, its copyright licensing information would be good, maybe a link to an "about" page and maybe a link to a navigation portal of some kind [16:51:11] Policies - none yet, copyright, can do, about: have not got, Nav: I have linked to the basic categories [16:52:54] TheBurningPrincess, that'd be fine. You could link to your top-level category in your sidebar [16:53:03] and call it "Navigation" [16:53:26] TY [16:53:50] I really like the skin for my Miraheze wiki [16:59:02] TheBurningPrincess, no problem, and yeah I love the gradient you added to make your nav bars more readable :) [16:59:05] looks great :) [17:03:32] I never knew Vector could be so pretty [17:17:32] TheBurningPrincess, yeah it's all the magic of CSS [17:22:41] I wish there was a way to make a main page that ooked good on mobile and desktop without TemplateSyles [17:25:06] @TheBurningPrincess [Taerel]: I mean, you don't need to use TemplateStyles. You can define your classes in MediaWiki:Common.css. TemplateStyles is just a bit more organized [17:25:42] Please don't define them in Common.css [17:26:11] RhinosF1, I mean it's maybe not great, but we do on Meta Wiki. We rarely, if ever, use TemplateStyles on Meta [17:26:22] It's awful for load times unless it's a commonly used template [17:26:28] ah [17:26:29] dmehus: doesn't mean we should [17:26:36] RhinosF1: good point [17:26:47] we did talk about migrating to TemplateStyles actually [17:26:53] just haven't gotten around to it [17:28:06] Ye [20:51:33] Hello TwentyOneX! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [20:54:21] Hi all. I'm having some issues with MediaWiki:Copyright page. Is this the right place to ask about it? [21:34:53] It is! [21:42:11] Yes, so go right ahead and ask what you want to ask. [21:44:00] Ok, ty. So, I've edited my MediaWiki:Copyright page and it works fine as long as everything is set to default English language. If I change either Special:ManageWiki or Preference language to en-gb. it no longer works. Reading through documentation it seems to be that localisation specific page may need to be defined at MediaWiki:Copyright/en-gb, [21:44:01] but that does not seem to work. How do I get my changed MediaWiki:Copyright shown for all English variants? [22:08:06] TwentyOneX, I'm not quite sure. What do you mean? Footer messages are controlled with a Phabricator task, but what does MediaWiki:Copyright control? I'd suggest creating other MediaWiki:Copyright/en-* messages, but is that really necessary? Usage of anything other than /en is extremely low [22:12:33] MediaWiki:Copyright controls the footer copyright message. Normally it is something like: "Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted." but since CC4.0 licenses are super flexible about attribution, I want to add:This wiki may contain content from other works with a [22:12:33] compatible license. Please see the Attribution page for details. [22:14:37] TwentyOneX, ah okay, then you need to file a Phabricator task for that, as this is a `LocalSettings.php` override that is required for your wiki. Ordinarily, this will require the consent of all your wiki's contributors to change, but since you're just adding explanatory text and a wikilink, not actually changing your wiki's license, that shouldn't be needed [22:14:56] see [[phab:|]] [22:14:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [22:15:29] [[phab:]] [22:15:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [22:16:05] Are you sure? I've already changed it directly, and it is working, just not for all localisations. Check out https://privacy-wiki.0x.no/ [22:17:37] TwentyOneX, well, yes, I do know that to change a wiki's license and the copyright footer text, that's done with a php variable in LocalSettings.php, but you could probably also do that with manual MediaWiki localised messages from the sounds of it [22:17:54] This would just likely save you having to create those localised messages individually [22:18:02] but not entirely sure [22:30:22] Ok, seems like the part I was missing here is that the MediaWiki:Copyright page controls the footer for the currently selected wiki-wide language, so if I switched it to en-gb wiki-wide, I had to define MediaWiki:Copyright/en localisation variant for users who force en language in the preferences. The fast that MediaWiki:Copyright changes based on [22:30:23] which language is default on the wiki eluded me (and was not noted in any documentation I found). [22:33:04] TwentyOneX, oh