[01:56:25] I agree with Legroom [03:55:51] Bukkit: sorry I missed this. I think this was handled. Was that the user I locked? If so, which one, Teles or the Reception wiki sock? [03:56:21] s/Bukkit/Bukkit[M] [03:56:21] dmehus meant to say: Bukkit[M]: sorry I missed this. I think this was handled. Was that the user I locked? If so, which one, Teles or the Reception wiki sock? [05:33:39] dmehus: Teles [05:35:52] ?? [05:38:10] Voidwalker: replying to a 3 hour old message [05:38:23] oh, I see [05:38:36] * Voidwalker tired and going to bed soon [05:39:51] I'm running on way less than I should sleep [06:17:38] RhinosF1, ack [12:54:32] This may be a silly question, but how can I see which theme a wiki is using? For instance I want to know which theme https://classic.runescape.wiki/ uses, so I can make my Wiki look likei t [12:54:38] [url] RuneScape Classic Wiki, quests, skills, and characters. | classic.runescape.wiki [12:59:29] this one uses Vector (the default MW skin), just heavily styled with CSS [13:00:57] Can you/are you allowed to copy CSS and make changes (if the license permits)? [13:02:07] yes, it's CC-BY-NC-SA, so you can copy, but will have to give attribution [13:02:30] (actually, this skin might be Hydra, but it's way less modified than other Hydra versions that almost looks like Vector) [13:17:52] they have vector.css page, so [13:17:58] nothing on hydra [13:23:53] I'm actually not sure its vector [14:08:38] https://classic.runescape.wiki/w/Special:Version Minerva/Vector [14:08:39] [url] Version - RSC Wiki | RuneScape Classic | classic.runescape.wiki [14:09:25] for a moment i thought this wiki was hosted on gamepedia [14:10:14] gamepedia doesnt exist anymore.... [14:10:22] its only fandom now [14:30:12] Hi again [14:30:39] I'm too curious to see what happened to Miraheze now. [14:35:13] CircleyDoesExtra: What happened to Miraheze [14:35:24] Miraheze is fine [14:35:29] it's just that it's kinda declining [14:35:34] I'm still on Circleyverse Wiki [14:36:37] Wdym declining though? Was your wiki request declined? [14:37:10] No [14:37:21] miraheze is slightly declining by popularity [14:46:54] Oh, I get you now [14:48:29] CircleyDoesExtra: But I can assure you that Miraheze will soon spring up, Its just a few time remaining. [15:02:11] dmehus: around? [15:05:27] there's still no traces of my wiki in google, but it's not ready yet for "advertisement" [15:06:34] You have WikiSEO enabled? [15:06:38] @legroom: we submit site maps but I don't keep great hope in google search [15:06:48] MediaWiki isn't optimised well for SEO [15:06:57] And we don't put any effort in [15:07:00] yeah [15:07:41] even though my wiki is dead, it got indexed by google somewhat quickly [15:07:52] i don't know why exactly [15:07:55] I understand, considering that MH is non commercial etc [15:09:42] I've read that google in fact ignores keywords also tried to feed url to entireweb (I feel like it does nothing for free) [15:31:26] btw, wanted to ask about licenses again and forgot I copied some stuff from spcodex wiki, regarding rules, copyrights, etc, reworded it ofc they go under cc by-sa 4, should I credit them on what I copied? [15:35:46] Yes [16:28:07] can I do this just in ? [16:36:57] hmm, actually starting to like timeless skin ... [16:44:56] Yeah [17:01:35] thanks [18:22:04] I feel like no matter what I put in mobile.css, it gets ignored by mobilefrontend, hard [18:24:58] Actually not everything in mobile.css effect on mobile [18:25:18] MobileFrontend is just capable of handling mobile view all by itself [21:59:22] What do you mean with "Miraheze is declining"? [22:06:37] i don't really know what they mean by "declining in popularity", it's always been sorta stagnant [22:07:16] er, not stagnant, definitely not that, but not like super popular [22:40:23] Maybe is the third most popular behind Wikimedia (and all related wikis) and Fandom, or do you think there are other wikifarms that are more popular? [22:50:02] well, if we could wikifarms like Wikimedia that don't allow user requested wikis, then we can count others such as Uncyclomedia which has an immense amount of articles, etc. [22:50:04] But not counting those wikifarms which don't allow user wikis, I think the current rankings (in terms of wikis) are: 1. Wikia (Fandom) - 400,000+ wikis, 2. ShoutWiki - 12,000+ wikis, 3. Miraheze - 4,000 wikis [22:50:41] but from what I see, ShoutWiki has a lot of empty wikis, it's only a handful of them that actually have content [22:50:49] I may be wrong but that's what I've observed [23:18:36] imo, the CU policy should change. I believe that the CU tool should only be used for suspected sockpuppetry, and not for first time-offenders. [23:23:47] In [[CU]], it states "to investigate claims of sockpuppetry". RN, it seems to be overused, as any vandals (first-time or not) gets CheckUser'd. [23:23:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CU [23:23:47]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/CU [23:23:48] [url] CheckUser - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:23:48] [url] CheckUser - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:34:19] I'd say it's hard to distinguish who's a first-time offender and who's a serial offender, how would you propose Stewards tackle the task of determining if it's a first-timer or a serial sockpuppeteer? [23:34:26] Uhhhh, that probably won't be necessary. [23:34:58] Hm? [23:35:06] There's been a lot of sockpuppetry going around, and I don't really see the need to change it. [23:35:53] eh nvm [23:36:02] rip [23:36:12] Yeah, no need to have that policy changed. [23:37:48] Void and Doug are mostly the ones that does the CheckUser performance these days as NDKilla does whatever he's doing in real life (which understandably is normal for anyone really), and hasn't been doing it lately. [23:38:28] Yeah, I'd be worried if multiple unknown people could access CheckUser but it's mostly trusted users [23:39:03] There was one user in particular that wanted to take advantage of the CheckUser and Oversighter tool for their own personal gain, but this occurred 4 years ago. [23:39:06] Anyways, what extension enables this? Special:PendingChanges [23:39:57] @Ugochimobi [23:40:04] oh, he was offline [23:40:07] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Pending_changes [23:40:08] [url] Help:Pending changes - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [23:40:12] Maybe this'll help [23:40:25] It seems $wgFlaggedRevsProtection enables it [23:40:27] Ah, thanks [23:40:31] No problem [23:42:00] Hello mib_xbm29o! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [23:45:09] I want to create a wiki but have questions about how to start. I saw on the community noticeboard that outlook is having problems. Is that still the case? I want to use my outlook account for my miraheze account creation. [23:45:44] My second question is - what is the etiquette for usernames. Because I am creating the wiki, should I have my username be related to the name of the wiki so that it appears more official, or is that frowned upon? I'm new to wikis. Thanks for your help. :) [23:45:58] mib_xbm29o: They've since been resolved, you can use Outlook again. [23:46:13] Also, it must be yours (afaik) [23:46:14] You can create a wiki by using Special:RequestWiki or clicking the link on the sidebar [23:47:00] Your username doesn't have to be related to your wiki, it can be whatever you want (as long as it isn't impersonating anyone) [23:47:21] Thanks for your help. Can you clarify what you mean by "it must be yours"? Thanks [23:48:01] Well, I think he means that your username shouldn't be trying to impersonate someone else, like a Wikimedia Steward, etc [23:48:13] It should be yours in that aspect [23:48:14] Yeah, multiple instances of that [23:48:15] Gotcha, thanks. :) Is it presumptuous to have my username be something like "NameOfWiki Admin" or is that normal. [23:48:30] Not at all, if it's your personal wiki, then you can choose that [23:49:06] Just don't try to impersonate the administration of another wiki (e.g. "Wikipedia Admin", "Miraheze Meta Admin", etc.) [23:49:07] Thanks! [23:49:11] no problme [23:49:13] problem* [23:49:49] impersonation - a BIG no no for sure. Thanks again.