[04:39:06] Yeah, nice [04:39:41] That wouldn't be a problem, we can get that as time goes on. [04:40:42] who knows, maybe it could also be incorporated into the main page [04:45:05] That would be great though [13:34:35] It occurs to me that Miraheze totally lacks mention on Wikipedia regarding wiki farms [13:39:40] There is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miraheze [13:39:41] [wikipedia] Draft:Miraheze | "Comment: Please do not resubmit this article until the sourcing issues have been resolved. Please refer to the guidance on this page WP:NCORP which explains the sourcing requirements for an article about an organisation. Salimfadhley (talk) 22:31, 18 September 2020 (UTC) Comment: You need to add reliable secondary sources that don't come from the Miraheze website. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 18:09, 12 December […]" [13:41:12] Looks dismal and ironic considering the other farms that do have pages. [13:42:05] It certainly has more meat to it than, say... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclino [13:42:06] [wikipedia] Nuclino | "Nuclino is a cloud-based team collaboration software which allows teams to collaborate and share information in real time. It was founded in Munich, Germany in 2015. Some notable features include a WYSIWYG collaborative real-time editor and a visual representation of a team's knowledge in a graph. In addition to its web-based and desktop application, in 2018, Nuclino launched a free mobile app for Android and iOS." [13:42:28] But at the very least it should be relevant enough for mention here, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services [13:42:28] [wikipedia] Comparison of wiki hosting services | "This comparison of wiki hosting services details only notable online services which host wiki-style editable web pages. General characteristics of cost, presence of advertising, licensing are compared, as are technical differences in editing, features, wiki engine, multilingual support and syntax support.A more comprehensive comparison of wiki farms can be found on MediaWiki's site, […]" [13:45:47] There was also this, but it was short and something incorrect and also it's deleted now. [13:45:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/871388241608187904/Screenshot_20210801_154410.jpg [13:46:22] Look at "Key People" 😆 [13:47:26] Key people is mostly nick and without link. That's not verifiable from their part [13:48:02] But i think writing on wikipedia is a different issue [13:49:13] I don't think Miraheze meets notability criteria. [13:49:48] But there is article in three other languages, i think. [13:50:54] https://wikidata.org/wiki/Q42671570 [13:50:55] [url] Miraheze - Wikidata | wikidata.org [13:50:57] Wow, 5 [13:52:09] mostly stubs though [13:52:16] and the sources are all miraheze itself [14:38:27] We could find info about Miraheze on other webpages [14:44:19] there had to be ... [14:45:18] would need to meet [[w:WP:NCORP]] though [14:45:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NCORP [14:45:19]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NCORP [14:45:19] [wikipedia] WP:NCORP | "This page is to help determine whether an organization (commercial or otherwise), or any of its products and services, is a valid subject for a separate Wikipedia article dedicated solely to that organization, product, or service. The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports […]" [14:45:21] [wikipedia] WP:NCORP | "This page is to help determine whether an organization (commercial or otherwise), or any of its products and services, is a valid subject for a separate Wikipedia article dedicated solely to that organization, product, or service. The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports […]" [15:15:02] Welp, this is more reason why me and the famepedia team are working fast on how FAMEPedia articles can show up on Google, like, google/bing needs to trust the website, Currently articles on FAMEPedia ranks very well on bing, but hasn't started bringing infoboxes So Miraheze will show up fully on google when 1. Meets the Company notability of Wikipedia or FAMEPedia articles startsto rank. [15:15:39] Wikipedia notability criteria is becoming stronger daily as some country's article are being deleted because they don't meet [15:15:42] It's unfortunate that Miraheze hasn't been able to get a Wikipedia page [15:16:02] Very unfortunate, [15:16:52] Like if I'm to list wiki organizations by rank personally I'd rank Miraheze immediately after Wikimedia before Fandom even comes [15:23:19] All Miraheze needs right now is to get web citations from independent reliable sources. [15:42:30] I agree that web citations are something for that article about Miraheze [15:59:26] I wish we could get bloggers and journalist to write about Miraheze as Wikipedia needs at least 2 to 3 citations [16:00:56] maybe someone will notice migrations from fandom and make an article out of it, w/ statistics perhaps 🤔 [16:01:47] Cuz Miraheze theoritically meets the company notability criteria, we just need citations from external reliable sources [16:04:43] I mean, the article exists https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Miraheze [16:04:43] [url] Draft:Miraheze - Wikipedia | en.m.wikipedia.org [16:04:49] All it needs is references [16:09:55] Yeah [16:11:27] i don't remember if i asked this before, but is it possible to restrict file uploads of a specific file extension for normal users? [16:12:10] I want to upload some zip packs to my wiki, but I don't want common users to have the ability to upload this type of file [16:14:48] Will you be uploading .zip files Everytime? Or you just want to upload once [16:16:18] If the first one, you could just enable .zip extension files for upload in ManageWiki, Upload the file, and disable it back. 🤔 [16:20:07] i thought about that, but I don't know if it's practical (I'm not sure how my frequency of zip uploads will be yet) [16:32:40] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services&oldid=1036252051 > Removing Miraheze as non-notable as it does not have a stand-alone article [16:32:40] [url] Comparison of wiki hosting services - Wikipedia | en.wikipedia.org [16:43:11] what the fuck [16:43:17] logic? [16:46:14] I guess I figured that was possible considering all the other ones have articles and MH does not, despite MH being as valid an entry as any [16:46:49] It is a fish that bites its own tail. They delete the section of Miraheze, and the stand alone article needs references. [16:47:04] But considering how absolutely stubbish some of those articles are, it's fairly hypocritical from a comparative standpoint [16:47:26] Not that they evidently have time/care to be comparative on the subject >.> [16:49:05] I think the first thing we could do is try to put independent reliable sources on the Miraheze draft [16:50:58] I've seen only one an interview w/ southparkfan [16:51:21] ik John was interviewed about Miraheze, would that count? [16:51:26] which I guess doesn't count [16:51:32] idk lol [16:53:40] Maybe that counts. But the interview has sense as a reference if the information on the text is extracted from the interview [16:54:41] FYI, there is {{mw:Miraheze}}. [16:54:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Template:Miraheze [16:54:42] [url] Template:Miraheze - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [16:54:43]

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Miraheze [16:54:43] [url] Miraheze - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [17:04:36] Yes. But the draft on Wikipedia is different from the article in mediawiki [17:05:24] mw page has no references. So i don't think wikipedia likes that [17:06:53] And since I've just been looking for more distractions, this one [[Comparing Miraheze to Fandom]] will need some work to balance out in content [17:06:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Comparing_Miraheze_to_Fandom [17:06:55] [url] Comparing Miraheze to Fandom - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:06:56]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Comparing_Miraheze_to_Fandom [17:06:56] [url] Comparing Miraheze to Fandom - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:07:54] I like how I get 3 bot messages that totally help with it >.> [17:27:39] No shortage of volunteers here! [17:47:51] I think we should do something before tackling that comparison [17:56:16] I can't find webs consisting on news talking about Miraheze [18:11:32] By all means there are things to do first, but I would consider a comparison quite high on the list when considering people making an exodus and increased attention to MH [18:11:53] My issue with it being, it's a bit partisan in writing and out of date to the extent that it may hurt more than help with certain parties. [18:12:58] yeah, the comparison list is rather biased [18:13:09] I've been working on rewriting it for a while [18:16:33] Maybe is biased and out of date if it enters into detail [18:17:00] but any comparison stating "current" state of things that continue developing will get outdated [18:17:38] When i was reading the comparison i noticed that every point was a whole paragraph or multiple paragraphs, it was a bit long [18:20:10] i'm glad to see we have a Phabricator with less pending tasks. It's positive how well the volunteers solve tasks in phabricator: https://phabricator.miraheze.org/maniphest/query/open/ [18:20:11] [url] ⚓ Query: Open Tasks | phabricator.miraheze.org [18:20:49] Last time i checked, the number of open tasks was higher [23:33:05] Is related articles an extension you guys can Install?