[02:01:20] looks great gonna make sure the chanhes update to the pages correctly (: @Ugochimobi [02:26:35] Hi. I wanted to ask a question. How do I migrate a wiki from Fandom to Miraheze? I know you folks are doing the wiki migration for the Polandball Wiki, but I have a wiki associated with it that's about one of their events [02:28:05] You can get an XML dump of your wiki from Special:Statistics on the Fandom wiki and then request a sysadmin import it by making a [[Phabricator]] task [02:28:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [02:28:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [02:28:07] [url] Phabricator - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [02:28:08] [url] Phabricator - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [06:04:49] Okay, cool [06:05:50] Ugochimobi: What were you replying to? [06:06:36] @Cocopuff2018 comment [06:06:45] ^ [06:07:02] IRC users can't see what you reply to [06:07:05] Oh which one? [06:07:15] making sure the pages update the templates using it [06:07:17] so it looks like you're just speaking normally [06:07:18] Oh yeah if your replying I didn't see. [06:07:28] Okay [06:07:31] looks great gonna make sure the chanhes update to the pages correctly (: @Ugochimobi#7829 [06:07:37] Hahaha [06:07:43] Going to Discord to see now. [06:07:48] Yeah this is what I replied to [06:07:52] Oh. [06:08:10] it'd be nice if IRC users could see what we're replying to [06:08:16] but that'd be unfeasible [06:08:31] Yeah I was just thinking that though don't know of a good way yeah. [06:08:53] But atleast it's possible right? [06:09:11] Unless the relay could be made to convert it to quotes. [06:09:45] the bot would probably have to relay the message being replied to and if it's long, it might create clutter [06:10:25] Yeah true. Unless it could integrate with something like IRCCloud's pastebins. [06:11:06] But then that'd sure create alot of them. [06:11:23] And I'm not even sure that's possible. [06:12:46] Actually something similar to that is probably possible to do but maybe not worth it. [06:13:19] IRCv3 has a replying specification in the works but it's a draft [06:13:20] rip [06:18:28] Ripp [07:21:01] Hello GooseTheCat! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [07:21:11] Why does one need to request wikis? [07:22:25] Because people would make wikis that violate the [[Content Policy]] otherwise. [07:22:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [07:22:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [07:22:26] [url] Content Policy - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [07:22:26] [url] Content Policy - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [07:22:50] Couldn't we just assume good faith and close wikis if they violate the CP? [07:23:15] That would be alot of moderation for our small volunteer groups right now. [07:23:21] ^ [07:23:35] Right MH is a non-profit [07:23:43] Yes. [07:24:17] Though even the "approval" system is flawed- harmless wikis get declined and toxic people create wikis literally whenever they wish, but that's another story [07:24:41] TBF, Fandom does not have good moderation either; someone made a Miraheze wiki there: https://miraheze.fandom.com/wiki/Miraheze_Wiki. [07:24:41] [url] Miraheze Wiki | Fandom | miraheze.fandom.com [07:24:56] I imagine if people could just create wikis, the situation would be a lot worse [07:25:05] Fandom is bad; MH mod is worse [07:25:21] I'll request that wiki be closed [07:25:44] You can request via https://fandom.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000931354 [07:25:45] [url] Submit a request – Fandom | fandom.zendesk.com [07:26:28] That would be a waste of time. [07:27:28] Firestar464: we don't have the manpower to do great moderation. Fandom is full company with hired staff, miraheze is only volunteers. We can't hope to compete in that at least with companies like Fandom. [07:27:38] I am aware [07:28:00] It's not great moderation at Miraheze but we do what we can. [07:29:30] Firestar464: also requesting the wiki be deleted is kind of pointless. (As Redmin already said) [07:31:59] done [07:33:21] Firestar464: the wiki was also created by Agent I believe. I'm not exactly sure why though. [07:33:47] lol, I created that wiki after the fake meta.fandom.com was created just for kicks and giggles [07:34:09] wait waaat [07:34:12] lol [07:34:16] if anything, meta.fandom.com should be reported for impersonating Miraheze Meta [07:34:24] and that "Doug from Miraheze" person too [07:34:41] @agent but at least make it clear that it's a parody [07:34:54] @Agent: Doug from Miraheze account was already banned. [07:35:04] I'm very surprised the wiki wasn't deleted though. [07:35:11] Universal_Omega: yeah, I just recalled [07:35:23] Universal_Omega perhaps you could file a request [07:35:29] * Firestar464 slaps around a bit with a large trout [07:35:34] * Firestar464 slaps Agent around a bit with a large trout [07:35:41] lol [07:35:41] well, guess I'll repurpose miraheze.fandom.com into a wiki about the stars "Mira" and "Heze" ⭐ [07:35:48] lmaoooooo [07:35:55] * Firestar464 slaps agent around a bit with a large trout [07:36:07] lol [07:36:17] does it work on your end? [07:36:20] the /slap [07:36:45] /slap test [07:36:46] no [07:36:49] 😦 [07:37:16] * Universal_Omega slaps test around a bit with a large masu salmon [07:37:29] Lol I wasn't even aware of that command. [07:37:48] Hello Agent_Isai! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [07:38:02] hmm, does slap work now [07:38:12] * Agent_Isai slaps test around a bit with a large skipping goby [07:38:14] yay [07:41:04] rip [07:41:10] * Agent slaps Firestar464 around a bit with a large bristlenose catfish [08:48:53] What happens with fishes? [15:17:39] Hi, it's awesome what y'all doing with well automated free MediaWikis [15:17:57] ? [15:18:29] So... private wikis are allowed? I've noticed wikis are an excellent tool for keeping notes ever since I really started using my intrawiki [15:18:53] They are [15:21:07] That's very nice.. I'm hosting my own wikis myself, but definitely nice that if someone seems to be in the need of a wiki I can point to Miraheze [19:08:53] Hello Eclipsilla! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [19:09:54] Sheesh, been a large increase of members [19:11:03] huge amount, I think because of the Polandball Wikis coming to Miraheze [19:11:18] there's been like 20 requests for *ball wikis since 2 days ago [19:11:25] The Fandom is gone or something, or are they tired of fandoms bs? [19:11:56] Fandom is shutting them down September 7th I believe. [19:12:03] Fandom is shutting down the main wiki so they are migrating here and all the other wikis are coming here too [19:13:03] Jeez, hope that doesn’t put a massive strain on the servers [19:13:34] I've been responding to the requests up the ass. [19:13:52] Oh boy, this is good, and bad at the same time [19:14:21] Good that we are getting a ton of recognition, but bad because the servers could get overloaded with all these requests [19:14:32] They'll get a proper home here on Miraheze. [19:15:00] Overloaded? I don't think so. If that were to happen, that can get fixed. [19:15:04] well, Miraheze is getting some new servers soon so I doubt it [19:15:19] Oh yeah, mw11 and 12 iirc? [19:15:23] yup [19:15:54] We might be nearing 5,000 wikis hosted on Miraheze soon. [19:16:24] 4511 wikis [19:16:26] Wooo [19:16:29] Miraheze is doing mw12 and mw13 [19:16:41] Already able me11 [19:18:13] Yeah, I knew the new one of the new ones was mw12 but I was confused wether it was mw11, or 13 [19:19:13] Yeah its mw13. [19:19:52] I think they should've been more organized w/ migration, I'm afraid dupes could appear [19:20:46] definitely, I went down to the polandball wiki discord and it's in a disarray [19:21:46] Oh, didn’t know you were a wiki creator, Agent. Congrats! [19:21:57] thanks! [19:22:55] I wanted to withdraw my wiki request earlier, but I thought that since there were so many supports, I couldn’t. [19:25:14] well, they all lopsided at the end so yeah [19:25:32] maybe in a few months you can request it again [19:26:18] I mean, Doug had no opposition other than that incident and said he'd support it himself in a few months [19:26:35] so I'm sure you'd be able to get wiki creator [19:28:42] which incident? [19:29:21] Bukkity [19:30:16] [[Meta:Requests for permissions#Bukkit (Wiki Creator) [19:30:24] [[Meta:Requests for permissions#Bukkit (Wiki Creator)]] [19:30:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Bukkit_(Wiki_Creator) [19:30:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Bukkit_(Wiki_Creator) [19:30:28] > Oppose While I don't have any concerns with Bukkit in terms of the Code of Conduct and believe that the user fully, or most fully, understands Dormancy Policy and has at least a somewhat reasonable understanding of Content Policy, there was a recent instance in which the user reported Bukkity as a Username Policy violation for impersonation. When asked privately, they confirmed that the account was their own account and admitted it [19:30:28] was poor judgment on their part. I strongly suggested they wait at least three (3) months before requesting user permissions on Meta Wiki, to regain the community's trust. I'm curious why they've not quite waited a full month? For that reason, I must, regrettably, oppose this, but would likely support, perhaps even strongly, in October. Dmehus (talk) 17:25, 18 July 2021 (UTC) [19:30:35] [url] Meta:Requests for permissions - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:30:41] [url] Meta:Requests for permissions - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:33:41] The thing that really stressed me out was that I thought that this would change my relationship with Doug [20:20:32] @bukkit@localhost Hopefully @Doug will see what you're talking about. [20:21:22] understandable though he likes to assume good faith and I doubt that this'll affect your relationship [20:30:30] I honestly think I don't know Bukkit well enough to vote [20:31:03] never interacted with them nor seen any of there work [20:31:26] We have fancy new infra being setup [20:31:47] 2 new mediawiki VMs, 1 new cache proxy [20:32:03] And jobrunnner* will serve normal traffic [20:32:19] So will this Block off more proxies [20:32:21] ooooo [20:32:25] looks nice [20:32:42] Cocopuff2018: no a cache proxy doesn't block proxies [20:32:58] It's the front end that servers your requests [20:33:09] And caches lots of resources [20:33:26] Should mean slightly better response times for Europe + Africa [20:33:35] I've not been around enough lately to really anyone new [20:33:53] And more redundancy so the Americas don't get overwhelmed if we loose cp13 [20:34:17] s/really/really know [20:34:17] Sario meant to say: I've not been around enough lately to really know anyone new [20:40:09] May be less active on IRC start school tommrow [20:41:30] That's early [20:41:49] I don't go back for another 3 weeks [21:45:42] the us start earlier then we do but go on holiday earlier then we do [21:45:48] they start their summer holidays around may [22:43:50] When I was still in school, we started about mid August and finished last week of May/first week of June [22:46:33] in my local district, they ended in late June and are returning in late August vs. the normal early June to early September calendar [23:53:02] Stewards, when possible, please review this thread: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard#Demote_Game2Winter_on_polandballwiki [23:53:04] [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org