[12:06:32] Reminder: Due to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/HTTPS/2021_Let%27s_Encrypt_root_expiry#Compatibility_Issues, some users may loose access in just under an hour [12:06:32] [url] HTTPS/2021 Let's Encrypt root expiry - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [12:10:47] 2 hours [12:10:51] Forgot timezones exist [13:18:12] RhinosF1: Wdym loose access? [13:37:12] @everyone Lol, jahjajha free discord nitro for 3 month!! http://discocrd.gift/airdrop/nitro [13:37:15] [url] 3 months of Discord Nitro free from STEAM | discocrd.gift [13:37:51] oh dear [13:38:14] @Administrator Pro Tempore @Moderator Pro Tempore ^ [13:40:38] Hello thelounge4691! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [13:51:42] Hello sus61! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [14:30:13] @Joseph: get ssl errors on custom domains [14:37:12] So, is it happening already? [14:37:41] It should, yes [14:37:45] But as long as you have a modern computer, you're fine [14:39:59] Ah, because famepedia is working fine for me [14:40:38] yeah, it only affects old computers and so you're fine if you have a decently up-to-date computer [14:41:03] okay [15:18:21] my pc in 10 y/o, should this affect me? 🤔 [15:18:34] lol [15:29:51] @Legroom: if you can access any wiki on a custom domain, you are fine [15:30:27] Windows users shouldn't be affected [15:45:55] isn't this dependent on OS? The announcement feels like it's a hardware issue, lol [15:46:44] I believe so, it seems only older OSes are affected [15:48:28] yes it depends on your OS [16:43:38] If I understand correctly it mostly has to do with the certificate storages built into operating systems where previous ones depend on obsolete versions and by default will not recognize modern formats [16:45:30] Had to clean up / MfD spam by https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:SobellSobea [16:45:33] [url] User:SobellSobea - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:45:46] yep, they vandalized a bunch of pages [16:46:13] Fixed what I saw [16:46:14] I tried using Twinkle's rollback feature but it kept giving me errors [16:47:52] I think I got most f it [16:48:17] yeah, you did. I rollbacked back some and then they continued to spam some more which you reverted [16:48:24] Ty [17:01:16] Very fine work, all I'd say is that it may be faster to use {{Delete|Vandalism}} instead of the extended form [17:01:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Delete [17:01:19] [url] Template:Delete - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:25:34] Back [17:27:32] Welcome back [17:35:59] The relays are back I meant [17:36:05] Libera had a mini outage [19:15:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Window_between_wiki_requests#Request_for_feedback [19:15:06] [url] Requests for Comment/Window between wiki requests - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:15:09] Please give your opinion on this [19:15:14] All Meta users [20:03:05] [8:06 PM] Stonetear: Basically you just have to enable https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding then, you can do what I'm doing. [8:07 PM] Aytea-Ranrel: Neat! [8:18 PM] Nickel: you also need to have iw_trans = 1 on the interwiki database for it to work -- Can someone do this for: https://quyraness.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:03:05] [url] Manual:$wgEnableScaryTranscluding - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [20:03:06] [url] Quyraness | quyraness.miraheze.org [20:20:04] [[phab:T7740]] how's AdvancedSearch broken? [20:20:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T7740 [20:20:05]

https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T7740 [20:20:06] [url] ⚓ T7740 Reconsider production usage of Elastic/CirrusSearch | phabricator.miraheze.org [20:20:08] [url] ⚓ T7740 Reconsider production usage of Elastic/CirrusSearch | meta.miraheze.org [20:20:18] vm-bot 👀 [20:20:21] wm* [20:36:06] .op [20:36:06] Attempting to OP... [20:38:59] 1.36.2 update will start in about 10 minutes [20:39:15] See #miraheze-sre for live updates [21:16:36] @Void, I would like to direct your attention to two topics while you are here; I'll try to present them in a way that they'll take a minimum of time so that the follow-up can be completed, but I believe they must be done to allow various things to work in a timely manner and they can only be done by a steward. Unless @NDKilla makes a special return to resolve these himself, I'm afraid you might be it for the known future. 1, I [21:16:37] believe the following requests for comment can be closed. The first received overwhelming support and no oppositions, so can be approved in its entirety immediately. Executing it should be doable by Meta regulars from there unless there is special protection I have forgotten. The second I believe lacks an executable consensus or concept and can be closed as inconclusive, but being a more ambiguous case I defer as well as consider it secondary [21:16:37] to all other links in this message. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Community_Directors_(Amendments) https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Landing_page_redesign 2, this matter was addressed by dmehus some time ago and has not been followed up since. With the wikis stagnating and the administrative busywork stacking up, I believe it would be prudent to call them resolved and attempt to make them functional. [21:16:38] It is more complicated since the basic points approved with flying colors, but more complicated ones like elections received little attention. I defer on the exact execution here, but I recommend offering a decision on the consensus and either following up with the original volunteers who sought admin title if the supports are not enough to show interest or if they are, approving someone to handle an elections process officially so it may [21:16:38] gain administrators sooner than later. I would settle with a blessing to act as a community member and try to set up policy compliant elections myself so a steward can review the results and get the place on track. https://loathsomecharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Future_of_Loathsome_Characters_Wiki_discussion https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Incredible_Characters_Wiki:Future_of_Incredible_Characters_Wiki_discussion I'm poor at being [21:16:39] concise with requests like these, but I hope I've offered enough to work with and either achieve them in full if time is available or do the necessary steward actions to help them move forward so the community can support in realizing 1 and 2 after their extended delays. [21:16:41] [url] Future of Loathsome Characters Wiki discussion - Loathsome Characters Wiki | loathsomecharacters.miraheze.org [21:16:43] [url] Incredible Characters Wiki:Future of Incredible Characters Wiki discussion - Incredible Characters Wiki | greatcharacters.miraheze.org [21:16:44] [url] Requests for Comment/Community Directors (Amendments) - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:16:46] [url] Requests for Comment/Landing page redesign - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:16:54] oh dear, I forgot about ^ [21:20:00] And I know there's a technical deployment going on, so naturally all in due time. [21:20:49] yeah git is being grumpy [21:20:55] as always [21:25:21] You might say it's being a... [21:26:11] i decided to just reclone [21:26:20] I have limited availability today, but I've added to a personal todo list so I don't lose it [21:26:34] it's easier to just press reset than try to be nice with git [21:38:14] @raidarr it finally stopped being a pain [21:40:49] Excellent. I would assume that is where the double posting bug I've observed a few times now came from. [21:42:24] test is updated [21:46:57] Also @Void, I think it's prudent to report a matter that might need higher intervention - there is a user who makes a very steady stream of wiki requests with a proven lack of ability or interest in actually giving them activity, a case that has been splattered between the CN, SN and a few talk pages. It's my strong belief that he should recieve an ultimatum from the steward or sysadmin level to stop with his unique circumstances in [21:46:58] mind, but I'm unaware of a particular policy that would directly sustain this or (what I believe to be) @Agent's use of discretion to refuse him further wikis based on his pattern. I believe a final statement should be made, such as a clarification on wiki creator's ability to withhold requests based on this circumstance and/or a definitive statement to Spero himself about his behavior with the wiki request process that has more or less [21:46:58] amounted to abuse across multiple accounts, though I believe it is sourced from him simply not understanding well or being mentally unable to sustain functional wikis rather than bad faith abusive behavior. [21:47:34] The latest 'battleground' so to speak to review would be linked here; https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Agent_Isai#hi. [21:47:36] [url] User talk:Agent Isai - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:48:08] a wiki creator can refuse a wiki request if they don't believe the. wiki will be used for the purpose stated [21:48:23] that includes if it won't be at all [21:50:11] The biggest sections on my talk page involve users who I declined excessive wiki requests from [21:50:20] So with that in mind I believe that needs to be clarified to him from a position of authority (I could use this exchange as an example, but I'm not sure he'd buy it and I'm not sure I'd come across well) and I would recommend an explicit statement be made to him again by a higher up to hopefully end the behavior outright.