[00:40:53] figured it out [00:40:53] thx [02:32:27] I'm still experiencing problems on Miraheze. When I imported the template: inflation to my wiki, any instance says: "Expression error: Unrecognized punctuation character "["." Here [03:17:02] your wiki is private, nobody can see this page [03:18:11] maybe you didn't import module tied to this infobox [03:19:54] because a lot of nowadays Wikipedia's templates use LUA modules, I suggest to not import them and code stuff the old way [08:55:15] I suggest inporting all of them and work like it's a blavk box system 😁 [11:59:30] Just clone wikipedia itself tbh [12:03:03] Lol XD [12:04:11] Unrecognized character "[" means that he can't use [ ] because is used on the mw sintax. [12:04:44] It only needs a template : [ that transclude the brackets so he can use that character [12:26:50] @RhinosF1 you want me to make you a task for the search console permission thing? [13:59:43] A task for that is a good thing [15:25:46] @RhionsF1 can you regrant me ownership of the moviepedia search console? i had onwership of it before [15:27:59] @RhinosF1 [15:28:43] Cocopuff2018: it shouldn't block you doing anything [15:28:50] But I technically can [15:29:38] @RhinosF1 if you can regrant me ownership fully of it that would be great because it can grant me full acess to the crawler, and allow the key to be used [15:30:10] Cocopuff2018: you don't need a html key [15:30:17] And you have full access [15:30:58] @RhinoF1 well if i dont have ownership of the search console then who does have owner of it? [15:31:04] Cocopuff2018: me [15:31:22] The only thing you can't do is control permissions and add sitemaps [15:31:27] But all sitemaps are automatic [15:32:00] well the issue is i submitted something to the search console to update its been a week and its not updating it [15:32:22] That's got nothing to do with your access level [15:33:16] @RhinosF1 if i create a sitemap for the mainpage does that help it update and craw the new pages [15:33:42] Sitemaps needed are already automatically made available to google [15:33:47] You don't need to do anything [15:34:21] hmm, ok [15:34:30] i just hope all these contents update [16:13:43] Hello tgr_! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [16:15:16] Hello Miraheze people! [16:15:39] Hello [16:16:06] The GettingStarted extension ( https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GettingStarted ) has been undeployed from Wikimedia production and will not be maintained further. [16:16:06] [url] Extension:GettingStarted - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [16:16:18] (Not that it was maintained much previously, TBH.) [16:17:29] Since very few non-Wikimedia wikis use it and most of those are on Miraheze, I wanted to ask whether you find the extension useful, or if it's just one of those "installed out of curiosity and then everyone forgot about it" things. [16:18:27] There is a small cost to even unmaintained extensions as they make refactoring MediaWiki core harder, so if no one actually needs it I'd want to archive the extension. [16:18:39] I recall only one user here being interested about in the last few months [16:18:50] and they end up not using it [16:19:02] tgr_: If you give me 5-10 mins, I can probably draw up data on usage of the extension [16:19:59] Thanks! It's not urgent at all. [16:21:00] FWIW current wiki list is https://bit.ly/3izJGW0 [16:21:01] [url] [[Has extension::Extension:GettingStarted]] [[Has farm::!Wikipedia]] [[Has farm::!Wikipedia Beta Clusters]] [[Has farm::!Wikimedia]] | bit.ly [16:21:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Has_extension::Extension:GettingStarted https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Has_farm::!Wikipedia https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Has_farm::!Wikipedia_Beta_Clusters https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Has_farm::!Wikimedia [16:21:02] [url] Has extension::Extension:GettingStarted - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:21:03] [url] Has farm::!Wikipedia - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:21:04] [url] Has farm::!Wikipedia Beta Clusters - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:21:05] [url] Has farm::!Wikimedia - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:21:50] tgr_: Well, we have 128 wikis listed as using it internally [16:22:51] also FWIW, on Wikimedia wikis it has been replaced by https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GrowthExperiments which is a lot more capable, although probably harder to set up for a non-Wikimedia wiki [16:22:52] [url] Extension:GrowthExperiments - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [16:29:03] Thanks! Filed https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T292651 about WikiApiary not working super well. [16:29:04] [url] ⚓ T292651 WikiApiary coverage of Miraheze | phabricator.wikimedia.org [16:29:09] tgr_: from a quick review, I don't see any substantial real usage of it. If the WMF wish to archive the extension, I'm sure there wouldn't really be any opposition to the removal of the extension from Miraheze from what I can see [16:32:49] Ack, thanks. As I said not urgent at all; if you have suggestions for other places to ask for feedback, I'm happy to reach out there as well. [16:33:55] Our community noticeboard would be a good place to go for direct feedback/concerns from the wider community if you wanted to do that. If nothing gets raised, then we can easily remove it - if something gets raised, then you'd be aware. [16:56:50] tgr_: if you drop a note on our community Noticeboard then I'll kill it once people have had time to moan [16:58:40] We can do a sitenotice too [17:57:33] Do we have any changes about login with api? Getting writeapidenied these days. Just wondering if I missed any technical changes? [17:58:41] perhaps you deleted the writeapi right from the * or user group? [18:01:30] Both * and user group on my site don't have writeapi right but it works for years. The user I'm trying to login with is an sysop and have writeapi for sure [18:02:35] Try assigning it to the * group just to test it out. Perhaps thats the issue? [18:02:46] got it, will try [18:04:57] oh it works [18:05:00] thx anyway [18:05:05] np [18:30:36] writeapi permission being required for login is a recent change. [18:31:19] Part of the multi-DC refactoring to ensure anything that does writes is marked as such. [18:46:56] tgr_: multi DC? [18:47:01] We have 3 cloud servers [18:47:06] That plan scares me [18:49:22] I imagine the capability won't really be relevant to a small wiki farm like Miraheze. MediaWiki's code needs to support it nevertheless, and that means being able to tell which API requests must go to the primary data center and which can be served by any DC. [18:51:56] I love the idea from a wikimedia perspective [18:52:20] But I'd imagine that the WMF has a server with more power than all 3 of our cloud servers put together tgr_ [18:59:48] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Servers :) [18:59:48] [url] Wikimedia Foundation Servers - Wikimedia Commons | commons.wikimedia.org [18:59:55] though all those images are pretty old [19:32:17] @Joseph: have you managed to send the info to Owen? [19:41:22] RhinosF1: Not yet. I have no idea why I'm finding it difficult, quite inconveniencing though, But will do ASAIC. [19:42:09] Ok [19:42:45] ID&V is a pain for us [19:57:49] it does seem like a pain [19:57:59] makes me scared of losing my 2FA credentials [20:04:54] Please don't [20:05:05] Unless you have backup tokens [20:05:10] Or a GPG key [20:05:33] But if you get locked out and it isn't crystal clear then it's a pain