[00:06:07] And yeah, I still have no idea where the 'ones' reference points to, I'd need a message id or quote to clarify if that's what is desired [00:06:31] 14 hours doesn't look like a long enough sample size, tbh [00:06:38] I'd rather go back 30 days [00:13:49] I do think going back longer would be ideal [00:14:23] That would be true data, though the past short while even as an outlier is a good hint traffic isn't exactly great [00:18:06] * Bongo-Cat flies [00:18:12] * Bongo-Cat believes he can fly [00:18:17] * Bongo-Cat believes he can touch the sky [00:23:57] I'll see if we can get 30 day stats on RESTBase usage [09:27:51] @raidarr: I just looked at real life Villans and told them to add some references [09:28:04] But apart from it being unsourced, I don't really see any issues [09:28:12] It seems like one of the better wikis [09:29:49] Yeah, RLV is an example where the topic can violate CP if it's mismanaged, but from my perusal it simply doesn't, and if it does have incidental violating content then I think there should be ample opportunity to fix it rather than nix the whole thing [09:30:54] Very different from a wiki that is written to disparage from the start, where RLV takes a more academic view that I appreciate seeing as compared to say, the average reception wiki [09:32:33] But it looks like Rhinos has stepped into it prodding for references, which is one way that the wiki would need to justify itself since proper sourcing is another way to make the difference [09:35:31] I think I haven't connected the dots with the Spookreeeno alias yet, my bad :p [09:35:52] * Spookreeeno is RhinosF1 [09:37:26] Figured that after I referred to you in third person, went 'hm' and read again :p [09:37:36] I'm terrible with connections sometimes [09:40:56] Halloween is annoying [09:42:16] This is reminding me that I used to own a lot of festive nicks back on freenode, including Santa_Claus, Jackolantern, Turkey, and a bunch of others which I've since lost [09:42:33] I also held Hillary_Clinton and BillGates for a while heh [09:51:19] dangerous names these days :p [09:51:51] idk what bugs me more really, halloween or the fact I saw christmas stock on shelves before the halloween shit ever arrived [09:52:11] It's all a bloated commercial enterprise either way I think it's fair to say [11:09:50] Hello SrGeneral! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [11:37:49] Hi. Who can make a discord role for donator? [11:40:28] a discord admin probably [11:58:24] Effectively, a steward [11:58:31] Might be one or two others as well [12:24:15] is like this one: > To thank you for your support, you have the option of on-wiki acknowledgement if you include your wiki username with your donation. But for discord [12:25:47] Ndkilla sure can make a role, but maybe is better to give that permission to SRE members too, so is easier to make changes? [14:15:25] Discord is a community controlled platform [14:15:39] SRE don't maintain control and have no intention of [14:36:55] Could SpookRhinos, Paladox, Owen or Reception create the discord role? [14:39:44] can't [14:39:51] i think owen could [14:41:14] I cannot nor would i like to. [14:47:22] So, you don't like the idea? Ok [15:02:52] I was delaying my donation while i wait for a discord role. If the role is not going to exist, I can donate whenever I want. [15:35:16] Ideally an elected admin is the one to do so [15:35:47] All current stewards can do so [15:43:49] I don't think the idea was straight out rejected, it's just that we're waiting for someone with permissions to make the role/opine on it [15:43:55] Someone with the Administrator role [15:47:08] Maybe is childish to ask for a role if my intention was to donate was selfless, but it was going to be the first time i donate to Miraheze [15:49:16] Hello Keygan! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [15:49:36] Excuse me, where can i find steward [15:49:50] Right here [15:50:00] a Steward will probably respond shortly [15:50:05] !steward [15:52:26] Keygan: that doesn't work here [15:52:37] But what do you want and I'll chase them down [15:52:58] Im block [15:53:16] Keygan: you're blocked? [15:53:18] yes [15:53:27] Keygan: what ip? [15:54:21] tor [15:54:38] tor exit node [15:54:42] Keygan: why do you need tor? [15:54:50] internet censor [15:55:07] wikipedia banned inn turkey [15:55:11] If you can point to your record of donation, you can donate whenever and request the role when it exists [15:55:21] Keygan: and Miraheze? [15:55:41] I'm worried if government will come [15:55:46] and block the website [15:55:58] since wikipedia is miraheze [15:56:15] Keygan: Wikipedia isn't Miraheze [15:56:15] as wikipedia look like miraheze [15:56:21] Right [15:56:31] Do you have an account at the moment [15:57:06] unfortunately, no. [15:57:17] That's fine [15:57:44] Can you email stewards@miraheze.org so they can assign your email to a new account [15:57:58] Then they can give you torunblocked globally [15:58:06] ok [15:58:17] Please don't abuse the ! pings though [16:05:06] wait, why wikipedia is banned in Turkey? never heard about that [16:06:15] I remember wikipedia was at risk to be banned in russia because of articles about drugs lol [16:08:44] i tried wikipedia without tor and it is unblock [16:08:48] but still worrie [16:09:19] especially because illegal website can be hosted [16:09:41] and turkey might ban [16:10:17] I read now that the ban was lifted in 2020 but I understand your worry [16:11:22] I have been forced to read only wikipedia [16:11:29] but now i want to contribute [16:12:59] if miraheze is not blocked in Turkey you can register without vpn [16:13:43] miraheze is pretty obscure to this day and I don't think it might get attention from authorities [16:13:56] I am still worried [16:14:29] if it will happen tho, you can you vpn with registered account without getting blocked by miraheze system [16:17:15] Keygan: just to confirm, are you trying to edit here on Miraheze (.miraheze.org) or Wikipedia (.wikipedia.org)? [16:17:51] Both Agent [16:20:23] entire wikipedia was blocked for political reasons if some of politics oriented wikis on miraheze will get such highlight, will separate wikis get banned or entire miraheze? 🤔 [16:23:56] Entire Miraheze likely if they did [16:24:08] Blocks are normally dns based [16:28:44] Spookreeeno I have sent email. [16:36:41] Keygan, looking [18:51:17] @dmehus; as it was explained to me, the trouble with keeping or updating ReplaceText is that it would require basically rebuilding the extension from scratch to be compatible [18:51:31] We found a way [18:51:36] Only compress old revisions [18:51:45] Then run the script weekly [18:51:54] Oh you're past that, fair enough then [19:47:55] How can someone use "replace plain text" to other "plain text" in mass edit regex? Without using regex [19:49:35] Just an FYI: we found a solution for database compression that doesn't break ReplaceText so ReplaceText won't be removed [19:51:04] @raidarr, thanks. Yeah, I personally had no opinion on whether ReplaceText stayed or went; I'm glad SRE found a way to keep it whilst enabling database compression on all wikis. I hope they can do the same with Citoid. :) [19:52:12] Collection will probably be removed as there's no opposition (and there is unlikely to be any) but as for Citoid, we're looking into that [19:52:24] Agent, thank you :) [19:53:05] yeah I like Collection in principle, as it has a use, but on the other hand, it's not really used much anymore, even on Wikimedia. (English Wikipedia even demised their Book: namespace, where it was used principally) [19:53:25] it might be used on Wikisource or Wikibooks still a bit, but not much [19:54:03] so no concerns from me with regard to removing Collection [20:00:17] yeah, not much use apart from Wikimedia unfortunately [20:08:07] yep [20:08:22] and most web browsers let you print a page nicely as a PDF [20:12:17] It was that functionality that made the extension unused on wikimedia wikis [20:12:44] Most Chromium web browsers prints perfectly. [20:18:34] yeah [21:30:37] dmehus, Agent: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:CITEGENERATORS&redirect=no [21:30:37] [url] Wikipedia:CITEGENERATORS - Wikipedia | en.wikipedia.org [22:09:53] Hmm, [23:17:13] > I'm far from any expert, but one could make a source notice at the bottom of the box that doesn't need to be long, just directly notes Wikipedia. If you were to build the box and use the same information though, it's probably public enough that you wouldn't need to. But again the how is the key, just duplicating wikipedia requires credit, at least convincingly looking like you arrived at the same conclusion can be presented as-is [23:17:13] raidarr: yep, I think Template Wiki does this, via a MediaWiki: interface message, so perhaps Cocopuff2018 could do that as well [23:17:34] .tell Cocopuff2018 see https://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/libera_logs/%23miraheze/ at this timestamp [23:17:35] dmehus: I'll pass that on when Cocopuff2018 is around.