[00:39:10] Imported from wikipedia, a first and fatal mistake if you're not proficient in Lua [09:25:41] Lua is a real programming language and if you know how to deal with it it will increase quality and perfirmance [09:26:44] But most of the time, what happens with newly created wikis, is that they need more dependencies or modules [09:27:21] This time with marcus it looks he needs to put some info [09:29:11] Knowing how is the trick and it is entirely inadvisable without the knowing, both for good practice imports (perhaps a guide can be made for that, though) and understandability to those new admins, even if they manage to import things. But that's my preference to see understanding in a wiki's design, beyond 'it just works' pulled from elsewhere. [09:30:25] I don't know if this wiki is new or old. But it seems big, unless they copied literally the template: > This template is used on approximately 14,000 pages and changes may be widely noticed. [09:32:47] Content pages 594 Pages 10,521 https://spectrumentertainment.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Statistics [09:32:49] [url] Statistics - Spectrum Entertainment Wiki | spectrumentertainment.miraheze.org [09:33:06] What i thought. The templates are copied "as is". [09:34:27] I lot of pages out of the main namespace [10:04:15] this is very complicated map template, I don't think it's possible to import outside of WP at all [10:05:22] MH has map extension, as far as I know SPCodex wiki makes good use of it, you might need to check them [12:02:51] The template works absolutely well on FAMEPedia though https://en.famepedia.org/wiki/Template:Maplink, but if you're not techy enough, you might not be able to handle it [12:02:52] [url] Template:Maplink - FAMEPedia | en.famepedia.org [12:06:42] It'll certainly work if it's all imported correctly. [12:07:46] FYI, it won't work even if you import everything [12:08:06] It requires extra configurations and settings [12:08:14] Eh, there we go I guess [12:08:42] I remain a staunch advocate for PortableInfobox and locally built templates for newer wiki admins :p [12:11:19] Yes, very important, new wikis should use simpler templates, while as time flies they can start advancing. [12:11:57] for that template to work, you need the Kartographer extension enabled though [12:53:22] Hi, i have some doubt. @CosmicAlpha i need to make a new task for this https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8115 or the task is done by someone on the SRE? If i need to do the task, where? 😀 [12:53:23] [url] ⚓ T8115 Polls formatting of the number 1/11 (0.909) | phabricator.miraheze.org [13:09:21] Well I just wanted to ask, could I upload an hour video to Miraheze wiki? [13:54:50] Depends what is it? [14:15:03] a recording [14:55:28] If it doesnt violate copyright and it allows you to, yes [15:11:13] Uploading an hour long of 4K content could impact negatively the servers of Miraheze. The servers are being paid with the money of the contributors [15:53:59] I think I've seen only one, entire film video on Wikipedia - in 120p quality lol [15:57:17] Hello. Is this the right spot for support? [15:57:30] yeah, hi there [15:57:41] ask away [15:58:04] Thank you. I'm having trouble creating an account, keep getting anti-spambot protection. [15:58:30] do you use vpn? [15:58:45] or you meant captcha? [15:59:13] No but I'm using a very hardened Firefox, is there a recaptcha at the registration? [15:59:23] Yes [16:00:05] I've loaded it up with no addons and it doesn't appear for me but unfortunately I don't have a completely vanilla firefox at hand. I will try on chromium then. [16:04:05] Right I just went at it with ungoogle-chromium (vanilla) and I still got the anti-spambot warning. The recaptcha loaded fine there, I see the 'Protected by Recaptcha' box [16:07:07] Guest35: Er, that seems to be caused by the Abuse Filter. What username are you trying to use? [16:07:16] PowerPunch [16:07:59] It's my Discord handle and it's recognizable, I'd prefer to be able to keep it so people know it's a valuable contribution- [16:10:55] Which wiki you creating from [16:11:46] https://rbrstuff.miraheze.org [16:11:47] [url] Richard Burns Rally Stuff | rbrstuff.miraheze.org [16:12:25] the owner is with me, if it's something he can disable or approve i will ask him [16:12:55] It's an abuse filter triggering [16:14:32] Right. Is there something that can be done about it? 'PowerPunch' isn't abuse. [16:15:09] Pm me your email and I'll create an account for you [16:15:17] Thank you. [16:15:18] I have no idea why that's been turned on [16:15:30] On that wiki or in general? [16:15:37] Globally [16:16:05] JohnLewis: are sysadmins allowed to shut off abuse filters that aren't working and have a big sign on saying they've been limited because they're potentially harmful? [16:18:36] Guest35: you should have an email [16:18:51] You'll be able to set a password from meta [16:19:39] Super, thank you and apologies for inconveniencing you. [16:19:56] Looking forward to using your platform. [16:20:11] Its not your fault [16:20:28] CVT shouldn't enable filters that are marked as harmful [16:21:49] [677ace3bda5139e8fb266045] 2021-10-27 16:21:28: Fatal exception of type "Exception" [16:22:01] Got that after changing password. [16:22:21] Change worked though. [16:22:31] I have an account, thank you. [16:23:34] Guest35: try logging in and see if it lets you [16:23:48] Otherwise I'll manually sort it [16:24:05] For some reason that's started happening on accounts created by email [16:24:20] Yeah it's working fine, just thought the bug report might be handy. [16:24:30] Logged in our wiki as well. [16:25:46] Cool! [16:26:33] Thank you for your help. [16:33:28] Trust and Safety on Miraheze is like Ombuds commission in Wikimedia...? [16:35:51] I have a problem with ReplaceText extension where some certain pages are invisible to it and cannot be edited by it. The only way i managed to fix this was deleting and recreating the page, moving didnt work. [16:38:47] Trust and Safety is like Trust and Safety at Wikimedia [16:39:18] T&S are like T&S [16:39:19] Is there a 'Tip' or 'Hint' formatting option? [16:39:42] they'd handle what ombuds do [16:39:47] Okay. [16:39:50] but that's because we have none [16:40:08] Or are all available formatting options shown on the editor 'Advanced' tab? [16:40:44] In the regular WikiEditor or VisualEditor or...? [16:42:46] Uh sorry I'm fresh new. I guess the WikiEditor? The one that appears when you hit edit on a section. [16:43:40] does it looks as you see a web page or like in notepad? [16:44:23] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [16:44:24] [url] Help:Formatting - MediaWiki | mediawiki.org [16:46:03] Spookreeeno: if it’s not posing an active technical problem, then it should be left for whoever the responsible parties in the community are [16:47:18] JohnLewis: I'd say it preventing users logging in is an active issue [16:47:35] s/logging in/creating accounts [16:47:36] Spookreeeno meant to say: JohnLewis: I'd say it preventing users creating accounts is an active issue [16:47:43] like in notepad, no WYSIWYG/preview [16:48:26] yeah that page you sent, formatting, has those yellow boxes, that's exactly what I'd like to use. [16:48:39] Thank you for sending it, very useful. [16:48:52] One could argue it could be the intention, but if it’s not an active technical problem that requires sysadmin intervention, tools shouldn’t be used. Rather the relevant parties asked to intervene [16:49:13] If it was preventing you otherwise doing necessary work, then it’s fine but the work must also be necessary to be done [16:50:41] @CVT ^ [16:50:52] cc @NDKilla [16:52:05] these aren't covered in the formatting page, can we use them? [16:52:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/902962867576373278/unknown.png [16:54:41] The abuse filter has prevented most spambot registrations. I would say a solution should be found to weed out false positives instead of outright disabling the filter. [17:02:06] wdym, magic words? there is another page ablut on MediaWiki in fact MediaWiki consists of various wiki documentations [17:02:58] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Contents [17:02:59] [url] Help:Contents - MediaWiki | mediawiki.org [17:03:34] no I mean the yellow box with the bookmark symbol [17:03:39] how do I do that [17:04:04] oh, that's HTML magic [17:04:32] create a

block, style it, put the stuff inside, etc [17:05:00] ah :Sadge: idk HTML [17:05:06] it's easy [17:05:13] learn it on the fly [17:06:13] once you learn it, it always will be handy [17:06:34] and css ofc [17:06:40] hello, can i get two of my wikis deleted? [17:06:50] ill send them in DMs [17:07:04] Do you have a good cheat sheet/resource, Legroom? [17:07:06] Please make the request on the [[Stewards' noticeboard]] [17:07:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard [17:07:06]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards'_noticeboard [17:07:08] [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:07:12] gotcha [17:07:17] thanks [17:07:30] google? there is plenty of basics tutorials, really [17:07:49] cool i'll look into it, thank you for your help. [17:08:15] I knew basics since school, but the majority of stuff I learned by myself, including by looking at how things were done on other sites and wikis [17:08:44] yeah I guess I can just look at the code :kek: [17:08:52] sorry I'm running a fever today [17:08:54] w3c school site is pretty nice [17:09:04] you're ok [17:09:24] did it [18:56:27] What's the context for that ping? [18:57:28] Abuse Fiter 52 has false positives and big sign saying it's partly disabled [18:57:51] looking [19:03:03] At least nobody changed your name to Joseph. [19:03:14] Filter has been disabled [19:05:09] Tha [19:05:13] Nks [19:30:51] Hi, anybody here pretty knowledgeable about the API? I wrote a bot to automate some tasks on my wiki, and it's recently broken, responding with this error code: {"error":{"code":"writeapidenied","info":"You're not allowed to edit this wiki through the API.","*":"See https://2b2t.miraheze.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at [19:30:52] <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes."},"servedby":"mw8"} The thing that doesn't make any sense to me is that the bot account I made to perform these operations does have the writeapi right, by way of its membership in the group Bots. Could anyone help me out with this? [19:30:52] [url] 404 Not Found | lists.wikimedia.org [19:30:53] [url] MediaWiki API help - 2b2t Wiki | 2b2t.miraheze.org [19:31:48] Assign the writeapi right to the (everyone) group in Special:ManageWiki/permissions and it should work [19:32:48] I'll give that a shot, thanks. I believe this broke after we had a pretty severe bout of vandalism, perhaps that right was revoked from (everyone) in response to that? I wasn't around when the cleanup was happening so I'm not entirely sure what measures were taken [19:34:54] oh wow lol [19:36:34] Especially since it appeared the vandal was using a script, given the sheer breadth of vandalism. I did take a look at the abuse filter log and the vandal was repeatedly triggering global filter 43, [Log only] New user blanking articles. I see on the Meta page for the filter I could export it to another wiki, perhaps that might be good idea so that I can change the filter to take action instead of just logging the action [19:57:57] That right is going soon [19:58:04] Because it's too confusing and pointless [19:59:58] writeapi should be left on * [20:00:07] It's doesn't do anything but cause issues [20:05:10] Which right? [20:05:31] writeapi [20:06:24] Ah. [20:12:39] okay, that fixed the issue, thank you!