[08:52:48] Does Miraheze care if I make some basic guidelines ( for moderation of the wiki and wouldn’t violate the COC, TOS of Miraheze, all of those will also listed ) [09:00:23] Basic guidelines for what? [09:12:43] For my wiki ofc 🤣🤣 [09:23:29] You are literally expected to do this per the Content Policy (though not required), so yes 😛 [09:42:36] Haha lol [09:42:44] I just wondering 😅 [09:44:15] So yeah, by all means, establish local guidelines. And since your wiki lacks a local community, you are able to do so without having to get consensus, which would be good practice if you had several people also actively contributing and then wanted to add rules. [09:45:25] Yea. Who knows? Maybe another day my wiki has a few users [09:45:45] I'm sure you can get them one day, especially when things are cleaned up [09:45:54] In the meantime the breathing space is good to do that :p [09:47:26] Hope so [09:47:57] Yeah. I current doing it. It going to be long ( I wonder if it is guidelines or it a novel lol since it so long 🤣 ) [09:48:47] Tbh, I wouldn't introduce a novel to regulate a non-existent community [09:49:09] Haha [09:49:24] Even the reception wikis that do have a community tend to go way overboard [09:53:11] Lol [09:53:39] is there a report function? [09:53:55] to report users [09:56:14] and warning function for admin? [09:57:38] I'm aware of the functions existing, I need to look up what extensions actually do it [09:57:47] Oh ok 👌 [09:58:43] Well it long but not as long as the other Fandom one like Disney Wiki and the PJM Fandom one. Just a little partial of it since most of it is “useless” stuff or stuff that my wiki allowed. [10:01:15] In general it's safe (imo) to start with a core of guidelines and only build the rules according to the needs of the community' [10:02:28] like shipping, roleplay content and etc. Those wiki doesn’t allowed but why not? I not wanted to built a place where only users could only interact abt the original stuff. Users could roleplay, share their arts and etc freely. [10:03:01] My guidelines is like basic, please be nice, do not be rude and stuff. Not rules that restrict freedom. [10:04:11] Assuming global policies are properly followed, that all sounds quite agreeable and good for community building [10:04:40] And I do like that approach of some guidelines to shall we say 'enable freedoms' rather than restrict them. [10:05:12] yeah, all global policies is followed ( if there even any of them, I felt all of them is basic knowledge instead of policies lol ) [10:05:32] not to do anything but there so less [10:06:23] Yeah, a majority is pretty common sense and unlikely to be violated by accident :p [10:06:45] Yep [10:07:10] I thought there was a proper report function and there probably still is, but Flagged Revisions is not it >.> [10:08:10] lol I taught it was that too but it is not [10:08:14] Oh I'm dumb, here it is [10:08:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/904310789861695518/unknown.png [10:08:22] Special Pages tab [10:08:35] Oh ok thx. Give me a sec to enabled it [10:09:45] Wait that have some error and…… it is report revision not users [10:42:50] There's not really a confidential user report mechanism aside from encouraging people to report users to you (or another admin) in confidence. [10:43:08] A revision report can be a method for people to report users anyway though, via reporting their user pages with an appropriate description. [11:13:00] Is there a way to set up Moderation so it only queues page creations, or might there be another plugin to serve that purpose so it does not target all edits? [11:32:04] Oh ok [11:33:28] Go through Special:ManageWiki/settings/moderation and check it you'll find anything useful there in this regard. [11:40:01] Is it possible to embed either Microsoft Form or Google Form onto Miraheze [11:40:13] 👍 [11:44:49] Google might be [11:44:54] Not sure for Microsoft [11:45:01] We whitelist a lot of google stuff [11:45:20] if so, how to embed? With iframe? [11:47:11] It will be ye [12:06:40] could iframe work in wiki? [12:30:02] It could [13:27:28] I know it's a relatively little thing, but the backlog on the requests for adoption really kinda bothers me [13:30:16] Ye :( [13:30:54] Unfortunately sysadmins don't step in anymore [13:31:31] I picked up on the tradwiki ones but only because of the circumstances [13:31:33] It's also a fairly front-facing feature being linked on the sidebar for meta and such, so it's both prominent and functionally important. Maybe not as pressing as CU investigation, but definately an actual Miraheze feature, and reflective (fairly or not) on the activity of the platform's management itself. [13:31:42] And yeah, tradwiki seemed like an exceptional case. [13:32:49] As far as I know it's our first confirmed [13:32:57] Death of a user [13:33:04] And ye they need to be dealt with [13:37:17] The problem is if adoption requests take too long then wikis will get deleted [13:39:11] I was thinking about potentially whether or not to reconsider picking up old community roles again [13:40:11] JohnLewis: I think we're at the point someone needs to [13:40:38] I've had to wait weeks for responses from stewards recently [13:40:50] If someone wanted to nominate me for Steward, I’d accept [13:47:29] It'd be great if you were a Steward again, JohnLewis [13:50:17] Ask and you may receive, unless someone is about to do it themselves. [14:17:08] John: It is done. [14:17:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Stewardship#Nomination_of_John_for_Stewardship [14:18:01] [url] Requests for Stewardship - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [15:08:43] Is there a policy which states that a user cannot be a bureaucrat without being an admin [15:09:08] Vaguely, I think I've seen it mentioned [15:09:14] Locally or globally? [15:09:24] Locally on meta [15:10:05] Ok, what I read is not quite what I remembered, you lose BC if you lose admin, but it doesn't recursively state that you must be an admin to be a BC [15:11:03] Losing admin status is only via inactivity/removals [15:11:52] There's no requirement for a crat to be a sysop, so one can be a crat and not a sysop either via a RfP or self requesting removal of sysop [15:22:41] It's happened before on enwp [15:22:46] Caused quite the confusion [15:23:08] We've seen it on wikis before as well where it's caused a lot of fun because people assumed crat implies admin [15:24:58] I'm sure a good portion comes with the wider culture of permissions typically being a static tree where crat is assumed as an inheriting promotion from admin, not divided in the way MediaWiki does it. [15:25:59] Yes definately [15:33:48] 503, delicious [15:50:44] Ye db11 OOM'd [21:05:33] Shout-out to @Joseph Zppix on his 21st birthday 🎉🥳 Sorry this might be coming in late but trust me we wish a happy birthday plus long life in good health 🙂 :pupCoffeeMH: Keep celebrating💕😎 [21:05:33] @Joseph Too many emojis. [21:05:42] Shut up dyno [21:05:47] Ty [21:05:51] Lmao [21:06:28] 👴 [21:06:35] 👀 [21:06:37] Happy birthday Zppix [21:06:41] Ty [21:07:08] @Joseph Too many emojis. [21:07:21] @Dyno go get a day job [21:07:28] What's wrong with Dyno lol [21:07:37] What? Lmao [21:07:47] @NDKilla can we stabby stab dyno [21:08:59] Why [21:09:01] :BanCatMH: @Dyno :DoneMH: :SupportMH: :mirahezelogo: [21:09:07] @Dyno: stop being so grumpy [21:09:08] It keeps harassing joseph [21:09:16] I'm supposed to be the grumpy one [21:09:21] Command sent from Discord by NDKilla: [21:09:21] .ban @Dyno [21:09:21] MH-Discord: Access Denied. If in error, please contact the channel founder. [21:09:26] Lmao [21:09:31] :squint: [21:09:32] Lol [21:09:48] Excuse me I need to file a complaint with the channel founder smh [21:10:01] Lol [21:10:12] * Spookreeeno should make channelmgnt ignore the relay [21:10:13] @NDKilla complains can be made to /dev/null(at)miraheze.org [21:10:44] @NDKilla: no idea why it even says channe [21:10:48] I’m curious [21:10:48] L founder [21:10:56] Command sent from Discord by Joseph Zppix: [21:10:56] .help [21:10:57] MH-Discord: I've published a list of my commands at: https://sopel.mirahezebots.org/help_prod.html [21:11:00] They can't do anything [21:11:01] Yet [21:11:11] Oh it doesnt dm commands anymore i forgot [21:11:17] @WikiAuthBot go away [21:12:11] You have to go over a limit [21:13:14] Command sent from Discord by Joseph Zppix: [21:13:15] .showmask [21:13:15] Welcome to the IRC channel of Miraheze, a free non-profit wiki hosting provider! | https://meta.miraheze.org | Status: {} | SRE Duty: {} | This channel is publicly logged at http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/browser/index.php?display=%23miraheze | By participating in this channel, you agree to abide by our Code of Conduct: https://meta.miraheze.org/m/PA [21:13:24] Not what i wanted [21:13:50] Rip [21:14:18] showmask should be renamed cause that is not what i would consider a mask, i would consider mask to mean hostmask [21:16:14] Most things in cha [21:16:22] Channelmgnt should be redone [21:16:39] It's the most fragile thing in exsistence [21:21:30] O.o [21:22:17] I would not be upset if channelmgnt got deleted [21:22:44] I plan to w [21:22:49] Work on it [21:22:59] But I busy