[19:34:28] Hello TransWiki! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [19:34:43] I'm a creator of Transgender Wiki, how do I change the logo of the website? [19:42:49] TransWiki: go to "Manage the wiki's additional settings", then to the styling tab [19:44:11] There's a line to add a link to your desired image. Please note the required format as detailed here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki#How_do_I_change_my_logo.2Ffavicon.3F [19:44:12] [url] ManageWiki - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:55:39] and... how do I make a home page? [19:57:45] TransWiki: your home page is located at "Main Page", customize it how you want [19:58:52] Agent, but how do I make it look professionally? [20:01:22] TransWiki: That falls under web design which is above my expertise so I can't personally help you. We don't offer any tools to make home pages either. You could try searching on Google for "MediaWiki home page templates" [20:06:29] look at other wikis, you might like something and can see source code of their main pages [20:12:33] MH-Discord, [20:12:35] ok [20:12:56] can I make articles about living transphobes as long as I'm doing it in a neutral, gentle manner? [20:14:01] do you really have to make articles about transphobes tho? waste of time/space + you're giving then attention they are exactly looking for [20:14:24] MH-Discord: well I feel I need to rant out about them [20:14:27] I'd rather read about influential trans people [20:15:01] rant is exactly what encyclopedias aren't created for [20:15:05] MH-Discord, um... ok... [20:15:18] how I do create categories? [20:16:41] Link to a page starting with "Category:"? [20:16:53] sTRM: how do I add a description? [20:17:08] you add pages to categorise by typing [[Category:...]] links inside them the list of categories will appear at the bottom of the page (depending on skin you are using) [20:17:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:... [20:17:17] I'm a noob in being a so-called god of a wiki, though I have been a sysop of other wikis before [20:17:20] don't pay attention to the bot [20:17:40] i have some experience in editing wikis [20:17:51] never too late too learn [20:17:55] though I'm still a noob when it comes to managing it all at once [20:18:10] it feels like MediaWiki has a steep learning curve [20:18:22] when it comes to being an eye-from-the-sky [20:18:45] have you read my reply about categories? [20:19:41] MH-Discord, yes [20:19:48] but then how do I make navigation boxes, etc.? [20:19:54] it looks so indimidating [20:20:04] don't rush [20:20:36] I'd say navboxes is one of the last thing you'll need to think about, they aren't easy, especially if you're newbie [20:20:44] MH-Discord: well it isn't like Wikimedia projects [20:21:02] it looks like it has a steep learning curve [20:21:44] I'd say mainly there are early and easy pitfalls that are much more tricky to dig out of [20:23:25] I was learning by looking at how things works and are coded on big established wikis [20:23:52] taking some bits, changing for my needs, and so on [20:24:00] reading MediaWiki documentation too [20:24:11] or Fandom's help [20:24:29] MH-Discord: how many wikis do you have? [20:24:31] a one, two? [20:24:54] Tbh, yanking knowledge out of existing wikis is pretty much the wiki formula, the trick is attribution or iterating so it is just unique enough [20:25:08] been an admin on 5? wikis on Wikia/FANDOM, now 2 on Miraheze [20:25:13] By knowledge, meaning infrastructure [20:26:09] The pitfall is say, taking something that you cannot quite grasp at a glance, such as the default infobox structure from wikipedia which requires many many more things to work as it should [20:26:33] how do I check how much traffic my wiki has? [20:28:07] Special:Analytics [20:28:17] .../wiki/Special:Analytics although it's not very informative [20:29:31] Views from. . . a "Smart speaker" 0 [20:30:08] dangit [20:30:13] Smart speakers do view web pages on occasion for some reaosn [20:30:20] reason* [20:30:27] Too smart for their own good. [20:32:09] Hello molehauling! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [20:32:18] yo <@503345164819890185> whats up [20:32:23] not much you? [20:32:46] fascinating conversation already [20:32:56] top tier comedy, my friend [20:35:42] Thanks to @dmehus, @darkmatterman450 @Magogre and all editors that are contributing to the [[Alternate accounts]] essay. [20:35:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Alternate_accounts [20:41:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCHcieghZ_0 [20:41:01] [YouTube] ⁨You fool, I have 70 alternative accounts!⁩ | 9s | Channel: ⁨Ultra's Reckoning⁩ | 163,351 views | 2019-08-07 - 22:42:43 [20:43:22] @molehauling whar? [20:43:35] a joke about the alt page [20:43:45] Hello transgirl! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [20:44:48] 70 is quite insignificant in the grand scheme tbh >.> [20:45:20] 70 non-proxy ips, now that is something [20:45:37] @molehauling oh lol [20:46:04] non-proxy ips are easy though [20:46:18] send a thumb drive to the CIA labelled "do not plug in!" [21:10:01] I have one question, can I write articles about extremely transphobic websites like r/detrans? [21:10:24] I was almost recruited by this front TERF group, I'm glad I got out while I still was mostly capable of critical thought [21:11:29] how about a list of such communities on one page, w/ short summaries? [21:12:38] TransWiki: In what context? [21:12:56] RhinosF1: presenting it as a dangerous transphobic subreddit [21:13:12] The trouble from a policy perspective is repercussions from claims of slander or unwanted attention directed to the platform [21:13:50] In that sense anything designed to highlight individuals as problematic will at the very least tread the line [21:14:05] TransWiki: you want to make a list of sites that are transphobic to shame them? [21:14:16] It's not unprecedented however, particularly with the still operating Real Life Villains wiki [21:14:27] RhinosF1, No, to inform trans individuals about them [21:14:46] Why [21:14:55] What benefit is there going to be [21:15:24] .help [21:15:24] RhinosF1: I've published a list of my commands at: https://sopel.mirahezebots.org/help_prod.html [21:15:48] .subred detrans [21:15:49] https://reddit.com/r/detrans [21:15:57] RhinosF1, don't look on r/detrans [21:16:01] it's a hate cult [21:17:32] TransWiki: what purpose is a wiki about sites your target audience can't visit and can tell is toxic from the name [21:18:06] Are you only intending to put detrans on there or transphobia on Reddit in general? [21:19:50] TransWiki: Please read the comments I left on your wiki request. Your wiki should not shame or attack people or groups as that violates our Content Policy and potentially the law [21:22:34] honestly, you'll have better luck at alerting people on social media rather than on a wiki (which you'll have to get "popular" first, and that's not easy) [21:22:43] RhinosF1: well, transphobia on Reddit [21:23:18] Alerting people about the topic in general is fine but singling out people and groups individually may be an issue [21:23:40] It could lead to potential accusations of defamation [21:23:41] Agent: well, ok, I'll alert people in general [21:24:04] What Agent said [21:24:34] where I can read my wiki request? [21:25:24] TransWiki: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/21774 [21:25:24] [url] Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [21:25:53] Also keep in mind that maintaining a wiki will require attending to edits likely from these communities. [21:26:15] ^ [21:26:56] sTRM: As long as they don't spread hate, then well, it's OK [21:26:59] The mentioned people or communities may take matters into their own hands and proceed to edit the wiki too so you'll need to keep an eye on the wiki [21:27:47] Yeah, that's what I was getting at. [21:28:13] And, from social media, it seems like they might have plenty of time to consume yours. [21:29:41] and they won't care about hosting's policies, obviously, so will put your wiki into closure danger and the hosting itself in reputational risks [21:30:39] If anything, they may try to purposefully get the hoster to close the wiki by posting things which are in violation of the hoster's policy [21:36:32] Well, I'm going to make a trans-positive wiki then [21:36:55] Wonderful :) [21:38:11] So if I create a page on detransition and later give a general warning against anti-trans websites in general, can I provide examples? [21:39:28] Of course, I'm going to describe detransition in a positive way [21:39:40] How gender-affirming care looks like, etc. [21:48:09] is this written in affirming language? https://trans.miraheze.org/wiki/Detransition [21:48:12] [url] Detransition - Transgender Wiki | trans.miraheze.org [21:51:49] how do I create a project namespace? [21:52:14] TransWiki, you already have a Project namespace [21:52:27] ugochimobi, how do I access it? [21:52:39] Your project namespace is your sitename [21:53:31] If for example the name of your wiki is `heyboywiki` then your Project namespace would be `Heyboy:` [21:53:36] You can just type Project:

and it'll redirect you to the namespace [21:54:20] exactly, you can access your Project namespace by doing Agent Isai said above