[00:23:45] @Owen are you going to join IRC? [00:31:36] Naleksuh IRC is apparently down for Discord. [00:31:52] IRC is not a centralized service and cannot have downtime [00:32:00] I deleted my Discord account, so I wouldn't know about downtime there [00:37:04] :) decentralized 20 years ago, yay [00:38:28] Jesus Christ https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Blubabluba9990 [00:38:37] [url] Global account information for Blubabluba9990 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [00:39:31] darkmatterman450: MH-Discord is offline, that's why. [00:40:38] CosmicAlpha I can see why. [00:41:11] Time to ride the split on the split #miraheze lol [00:41:59] Yeah, why is it not back anyway? [00:43:25] No idea but I pinged in #miraheze-bots. [00:47:40] relay test [00:47:49] there we go [00:47:57] Relay back online [00:48:02] YES! [00:57:26] Sario : Keep it off ;( [01:27:58] Hello bluederv! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [02:43:34] Be on look out guys a troll made an account saying they will make more accounts [02:44:46] link [02:45:46] https://moviepedia.miraheze.org/wiki/User:IM_BEING_SERIOUS,_STOP_SAYING_L0ng_term_abuse_or_more_accs!_not_funny! [02:46:31] This troll needs to find better things to do with their life [02:47:57] Ah yes [02:48:10] Feel free to report them directly to #cvt, although I believe they've been noted already [02:49:58] I'm finding it a bit odd no record in account creation of that account, no edits for that user on that. Wiki [02:50:22] That particular account is made by a well known lta case [02:53:02] @Joseph PUFF That's -abigblueworld-. [02:53:14] I'm sure I know who it is but still find it odd no account was listed in the account creation log on moviepedia [02:54:28] I believe it was created on Meta [02:55:00] Ye but if it was created on another wiki it would show on that wikis log [02:55:16] if they visited that wiki [02:55:36] couldn't say [02:56:43] It's on tgec [02:57:03] ifs on account creation log so no worries [02:58:38] I'm disappointed goolge removed the Information that shows under our contents links [06:06:16] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/2ebo3Lwd/image.png [06:06:19] Grrr HOW do I turn this off? [07:22:30] what? [08:21:56] that's Structured Discussion lol [08:22:10] It comes up when you click add topic [08:22:36] I actually love it, at least the browser don't need to reload before new sections [10:21:20] @Lake: you speak pt-br right? Can you check YellowFrogger's efforts on https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?target=YellowFrogger&namespace=1198&tagfilter=&start=&end=&limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions given the AN thread [10:21:21] [url] User contributions for YellowFrogger - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [10:21:27] If they don't make sense, we can handle it [12:01:43] RhinosF1: the translation is OK. There are some errors, and some parts are "overtranslated" (like literally translating "wiki farm"), but it's understandable [12:09:50] @Lakelimbo: are they worth keeping? Would they be understandable and professional enough for a new user reading them? [12:20:57] Yeah, like why couldn't a user just use Google Translate instead? [12:21:10] Since user translations are meant to be superior to machine translations, otherwise they don't have much purpose [12:23:31] I think they're understandable, but professional? I don't think so much [12:26:56] Google Translate is bound to mess up and it's not nearly as accurate [12:27:01] @Lakelimbo: if you were a new user, would you be impressed with Miraheze if that's what you saw [12:27:09] Reception123: google translate is awful [12:27:24] It can very wrong very easily and say things that you definitely didn't mean [12:27:34] It's mixed I was at the park and I am pregnant up [12:27:43] Especially French [12:27:57] Yes that was french [12:28:04] I have used Google Translate for French and many times it does not give e the right word [12:28:09] I think the biggest problem is that YellowFrogger translates very long sentences [12:28:31] in my experience, Google Translate works better to translate individual words or short expressions [12:28:36] RhinosF1: exactly, which is why we don't want machine translations on Meta [12:28:44] Reception123: yep [12:28:51] That was my point, if they're as bad as Google translate then they're worthless and should go [12:28:51] @Lakelimbo: are they worth keeping [12:29:01] Since people might as well use Translate [12:29:02] For that, it's fine [12:29:25] The question is: is there really a difference between Translate and what has been done? [12:29:36] hmm, let me check [12:30:17] I am a very good translator so when i contribute to translatewiki i always double check my translations to see if i'm translating it ok. Maybe other people don't check what Google Translate says. [12:39:00] @Lakelimbo: thoughts? [12:42:16] RhinosF1: I fixed the mistakes I could find [12:42:35] @Lakelimbo: so rest are fine to keep? [12:42:38] He has a lot [12:43:13] as far as I can see, yes. In any case, if anyone complains about some errors I can fix them almost instantly [12:43:33] Ok [12:46:24] second on that there is a lot of nuances in other langs when translating as a whole [12:47:04] If YF isn't going to be hit with using machine translation as a reason to knock it off entirely, then perhaps he could be suggested to use it more methodically, ie, sentence or parts at a sentence at a time, and to take care to review each result [12:47:30] Though from what I'm getting the result is about as effective as his grasp of English in writing the text, for what it's worth [12:50:56] @raidarr: if I'd have had to delete them, he'd have probably faced some sort of ban [12:50:59] Whether it be enforced or not [12:51:15] He's highly likely to face some sort of restrictions soon [12:51:46] Yeah, that definitely pulls a long straw out of my impression [12:52:07] Cleaning up translations is painful [12:52:22] I still wanna check the stats tables for pages with 0% translated [12:52:25] Because there is some [12:52:31] Even if it's not disastrous it's something to fix, and either way not exactly a qualifier to be a guy who does oversight on technical translation things [12:53:17] Especially when now that I think of it, the translation admin duties are kept up with pretty well aren't they [12:53:26] Not a demonstrated need to add to the ranks [12:56:03] I agree with Raidarr on this [12:58:01] Pursuant to that I'd also like to consider a guide for translation in general native on Miraheze which includes the expectations for translating, including to drive home the point that if you need to use machine translation, do not translate; Miraheze would rather have fewer but more complete translated works than work that is little more than what someone can do with a browser translate plugin [22:44:22] JohnLewis: shouldn't the actual == Adoption == header become == Reopening == too? [22:44:41] Also what do we do with Requests for Adoption now the RfC says it should be called reopening [22:47:55] I might suggest a nitpick amendment to the closure, and checking the spelling on resolution for point #7 [22:56:05] The page would need moving and renaming as such, but I’m mobile so don’t really feel comfortable handling such a big transition as such [22:57:04] Ok [22:57:55] * RhinosF1 wouldn't be shocked if it's of the size that it might be beneficial to do server side