[01:07:51] wat about me [01:30:55] wat about [01:31:51] heh?? [01:33:13] that's what I'm wondering [03:54:17] Has anyone seen Owen? [04:58:15] Naleksuh: Yes, on Discord. [05:13:57] CosmicAlpha : Oh [05:14:06] I haven't seen them talk on the relay for a while [05:14:09] Or edit on wiki [05:14:14] @Owen you there/ I need an NDA [05:14:17] He's around though [05:15:22] Oh [05:15:25] Are they EUU time? [05:15:27] EU [05:15:46] Yeah, UTC I think [05:55:34] Oh [05:56:13] I need Owen to help me sign NDA [07:27:02] Oh, Agent is Agent Asai [07:27:04] I just now figured that out [07:27:35] Naleksuh: Indeed :) [07:27:41] Commuunity Wishlist 2021 should be 2022 [07:30:06] that's a fair point [07:30:19] since it technically doesn't start until 2022 [07:31:22] For the same reason Wikimedia does it [07:31:29] It's named after the year they're working on it [07:31:39] Cause it feels demoralizing to work on Community Wishlist "2021" in 2022 [07:32:44] oh, do they call theirs 2021 also? [07:32:57] They called their one in 2020 2021 [07:33:03] It's called the year it'll be working on [07:33:06] oh [07:33:13] So ours should be 2022 [07:33:29] true [07:33:47] FFS [07:33:53] I HATE THIS POPUP https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LcThVwIP/image.png [07:34:00] I would just disable site JS but that makes patrolling edits real hard [07:34:16] oh [07:34:26] you mean the DiscussionTools? [07:35:25] Yeah, I hate it [07:35:29] And I can't find a way to opt out [07:35:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Wishlist_2021#Should_this_be_2022%3F [07:35:31] [url] Talk:Community Wishlist 2021 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [07:36:05] Oh I founud it https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iFcPRSRE/image.png [07:54:32] Hello [07:54:40] Hello [07:56:15] I have a problem for creating my account. I filled all the textboxes in the "Creating account" page and when I click on create, there is an error message "This field is required" even if I filled all the textbox [07:57:38] can someone help me? [07:57:38] Guest9: Pinging dmehus, JohnLewis, paladox, PuppyKun, Reception123, RhinosF1, SPF|Cloud, Universal_Omega, and Voidwalker,who might be able to help you. Other users in this channel also see this and may be able to assist you. [07:57:42] Guest9, can you take a screenshot of that? [07:57:47] yes 2 min [07:58:48] How can I send the screenshot? [08:00:10] Naleksuh: if you need to sign an NDA, can you shoot me an email at owen at miraheze.org and I’ll pick it up later when I’m home? [08:00:21] Ah okay [08:00:56] Oh, I need to update my Miraheze email [08:00:57] ? [08:01:20] Time to kill this off https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/J8wUx8j7/image.png [08:01:58] So long ago, we weren't in a pandemic when I confirmed my old email [08:02:20] then, can someone help me for creating the account? :) [08:02:28] And now it's gone https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oNqtJJ5V/image.png [08:02:34] Guest9 : Just upload it anywhere of your choice [08:04:47] here it is the link: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtLPWjRUptnugqlkSvtY5NTIvV6F0Q?e=rzjEFq [08:04:48] [url] Microsoft OneDrive - Access files anywhere. Create docs with free Office Online. | 1drv.ms [08:05:13] with the screenshot [08:05:18] You haven't typed a password, that seems like it's a problem [08:05:26] yes i did [08:05:43] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/I8RoztzX/image.png [08:05:46] I see no password typed here [08:05:52] but when i click on create, i have the page I send you deleting the pass [08:06:22] Oh, I see [08:06:24] That's strange [08:06:30] yes definitively [08:07:01] I can try creating an account for you [08:07:18] oh yes, thx a lot :) [08:09:38] You should receive login information at the provided email address now [08:11:22] I try to log in [08:12:44] Yes it works [08:12:49] Thanks a lot for your help [08:16:29] I send a request for a wiki. [08:17:00] the request number is 21986... [08:17:19] Yeah, I see that, but I'm not approving wikis right now due to a change made in the system [08:17:25] Someone else may do it [08:17:43] Oh ok [08:18:57] does it take time to be approved? [08:19:38] Depends, but it shouldn't take more than a few hours [08:19:45] ok ok [08:20:06] Guest9: All you need to do is typically poke a wiki creator like myself to get them to approve it [08:20:16] Anyway, approved. Thank you for flying Miraheze! [08:20:39] Oh thank you! Where I can find it now? [08:21:01] Guest9: Your wiki? At https://discus.miraheze.org [08:21:03] [url] Accueil — Les discus | discus.miraheze.org [08:22:05] Is it possible to "proctect" against modifications? Because it is important for me that all the informations on it must be reviewed for scientific precision [08:22:31] Guest9: Yes. Go to Special:ManageWiki/permissions/* and revoke the "edit" permission from the group [08:23:37] Thanks...but... sorry, it is the first time I am on it... How can i find that? [08:23:56] Guest9: Type that into the search bar [08:24:00] on your wiki [08:26:53] ok ok! Thank you! I [08:27:16] is there an other way to access to it? [08:27:28] or a list of the keyword? [08:27:35] *keywords [08:27:44] Guest9: On the sidebar, there should be a menu with links to all the ManageWiki panes [08:28:14] Each pane allows you to control a different aspect of your wiki (e.g. extensions, permissions, namespaces) [08:28:23] Read [[ManageWiki]] for more information [08:28:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ManageWiki [08:29:46] thank you for all those information! [08:30:03] No proble [08:30:04] m [08:41:34] is there a page with all the commands for editing pages? [14:51:12] Error contacting the Parsoid/RESTBase server (HTTP 404) [14:51:32] @RhinosF1 for awhile now i been getting this error when trying to load a pages visual edtior unsure why [14:55:46] and the page is not even big [15:25:26] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/BjK6l2WR/IMG_20211220_205430.jpg [15:25:46] Could someone help me with fixing this template? [15:26:14] what you need fixed @magogre [15:26:53] are you making a navbox of sorts? [15:27:10] @Legroom: yes [15:28:15] Cocopuff2018: it isn't rendering properly, I guess [15:35:26] how VTE bit is coded? as marked list, div? if you want it to be horizontal, easier to wrap into span and use • [15:36:00] what is T standing for tho? I know only VDE [15:57:56] I guess the lists are also marked if you need them to be horizontal no matter what it will require a class w/ some tricky css rules [15:58:13] I'm not by desktop so can't tell right away which ones [15:59:00] I also would give some basic rules to table, like width: 100% etc [18:27:05] @JohnLewis so if you guys cannot fix the error on my ticket i opend then i cannot edit [18:27:35] Cocopuff2018: why'd you ping John? [18:28:10] so apperently SRE said they cannot fix the error, and if they cannot fix it how am i suppose to edit my wiki [18:29:28] I'm busy with other things currently, but have noted on the task that I can reproduce it [18:29:41] Cocopuff2018: source editor? [18:29:48] In combination with "Show preview" [18:29:55] like in the good old days [18:30:28] when i try to edit any page of moviepedia it gives me an error [18:31:13] Cocopuff2018: via the Source Editor? [18:31:20] ye [18:31:38] Cocopuff2018: what error do you get? [18:33:08] @Agent https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8493 [18:33:09] [url] ⚓ T8493 Error When Loading Page Visual editor | phabricator.miraheze.org [18:34:19] Cocopuff2018: Source Editor works fine for me but indeed I can reproduce the 404 error with Visual Editor [18:36:09] @Agent just to be clear will this fix the error on my end [18:37:20] Cocopuff2018: Editing through the Source Editor? No, I was just suggesting using it in lieu of Visual Editor while the issue is fixed. [18:43:42] i dont work well with Source edtior [19:27:38] Agent : Why is https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Wishlist_2021 archived? [19:27:39] [url] Talk:Community Wishlist 2021 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:27:49] Who is "we", and why was it closed with hardly any discussion and unanimous support? [19:28:14] Naleksuh: closed because it was turning into a vote for some reason [19:28:50] Yeah, that wasn't my original intention, but you seem to be the only one opposed to it, and if you are involved instead of closing it would be better to comment [19:31:47] Naleksuh: We as in SRE. We thought it'd be better to just leave it as is, named "Wishlist 2021" as the survey will take place this year. Really, I only archived it because it was turning into a vote for some reason. If you wish however, I can revert the archival and leave it as a comment. [19:32:09] Yes, please comment [19:32:34] Also, Wikimedia used to name it after the year the survey was in, but they changed it to be the year they are working on [19:32:36] The wish list is for 2022 though, so I agree 2022 is a better name for it [19:32:39] I think we should change 1) for the same reason 2) synced up [19:32:56] JohnLewis : Thanks, can you please comment here? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Wishlist_2021 [19:32:57] [url] Talk:Community Wishlist 2021 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [19:34:08] This is a matter of semantics then [19:34:08] I'd be ok with renaming it "Community Wishlist for 2022" [19:35:11] Alright [19:35:20] Again, can you please put this onwiki? [19:35:27] We cant get consensus via IRC [19:35:50] you should stop using year names for "release names". Community Wishlist I, Community Wishlist X, Community Wishlist - The next Chapter, Community Wishlist - Hairy Hedgehog etc [21:40:02] @Void: Scary transclusion is named such for a reason [21:40:14] It can be made work because I've done it before [21:41:08] I'm not sure it's technically advisable to have template structures patched in from other wikis aside from the implications of a rogue edit, is it? From a stability and performance perspective, yanking the template from one area to display on others. [21:41:33] If it made no difference technically I could actually see a use for it. [21:42:46] interwiki transclusion just seems like on of those things that upstream has, but doesn't really care about, which leaves the whole thing feeling half-baked [21:42:58] What void says [21:43:06] It's weird [21:43:33] I see the use case, it's just weird [21:43:39] I've made it work [21:46:29] hm [21:46:36] might toy around with it in limited circumstances [21:47:13] It could be interesting to try and improve it, but I'm not sure how much of that is within our scope [21:51:56] Eh, there's probably a fair amount of other things that would be advisable to look at first [21:52:07] Which I should probably get to posting about in the wishlist :p [21:53:19] It's not @Void [21:53:47] The feature works [21:54:54] I wouldn't be surprised if it's under community tech to be honest [21:54:58] musikanimal: ^ [21:55:52] I'm not sure how much of an organized distinction that is, given the scattered nature and leadership of community-based functions unless I'm on the wrong track for what you mean by 'community tech' as compared to sre [21:56:06] Community Tech are a team [21:56:16] That do upstream's wishlist [21:56:32] Oh, we're out of Miraheze scope already then [21:57:03] We can't force them to make it work well. [21:57:20] Well again, it's a fairly niche market as it is [21:57:29] A feature exists. It might take some tweaking to make it good but it's there. [21:57:54] yo! so Miraheze is doing a Community Wishlist Survey, too!? Very cool :) [21:58:08] Indeed we are :) [21:58:09] At most I'm considering an interwiki thing where say, the sysop lists of several wikis are transcribed to one specially formatted page [21:58:22] musikanimal: is Interwiki transclusion owned by you [21:58:25] And we are [21:58:40] Automatic wiki creation and putting requests on hold are the two proposals [21:58:49] Which to be honest conflict [21:59:15] interwiki transclusion? no, certainly not in Community Tech's scope, lol [21:59:25] I would like to think one is a long term aspiration while the former makes it easier while we have it, then to have as a backup system [21:59:26] you're talking global templates, basically? [21:59:43] I believe WMF will be creating a team in 2022 to work on that, but don't quote me [21:59:47] Pursuant to requests I think I'll cap myself at 3-4, there's really no shortage of techy things I could go 'whatabout' [22:00:02] Isn't a global Wikimedia Template Wiki in the works? [22:01:12] there's wikifunctions and abstract wikipedia in the works, if that's what you mean, but it's more Wikibase-oriented. I don't know that it will have proper global templates, per se [22:01:59] It's in the works I know that [22:02:05] Didn't know who owned it [22:02:33] that would be the Abstract Wikipedia team [22:03:37] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Abstract_Wikipedia [22:03:37] [url] Abstract Wikipedia - Meta | meta.wikimedia.org [22:07:21] I know James is on that [22:08:33] I know a few people on that [22:28:56] So does anyone want to close https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Community_Wishlist_2021 ? [22:28:57] [url] Talk:Community Wishlist 2021 - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [22:29:01] Want to wrap this up before even more pages are created [22:29:12] Yeah, I'll move it soon [22:29:25] Great [22:33:02] I would have put wishlist with a lowercase w, but oh well, I don't feel like moving it twice [22:34:47] We'd have a mess of double redirects xD [22:34:57] That reminds me, I should update the CentralNotice [22:40:42] Hello tiger_blazer! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [22:41:02] da CentralNotice* [22:41:19] Ok, the IRC works 🙂 [22:41:46] That was just a test, as there are going to be days where Discord isn't available to me so I will use IRC instead [22:44:13] Now I just need to figure out how to actually say things on IRC [22:44:35] you're actually saying something already, heh [22:44:45] oh [22:44:55] from discord relayed, heh [22:48:06] Yeah, I'm very new to IRC, and am still trying to figure out a few things