[00:12:07] <RhinosF1>	 Naleksuh: you can have an account once prod decides not to collapss
[00:12:20] <Naleksuh>	 Okay
[00:12:25] <Naleksuh>	 Just wanna make sure they are seperate first
[00:21:04] <dmehus>	 Naleksuh, what do you mean by "separate"?
[00:21:28] <Naleksuh>	 Currently, Betaheze is using Miraheze Production resources, making it not an entirely seperate sandboxed enviorment
[00:21:34] <Naleksuh>	 RhinosF1 is helping to move it off into a completely isolated thing
[00:23:43] <dmehus>	 I mean, it's already using isolated MediaWiki resources, and I'm personally do not see why Betaheze could not share non-MediaWiki infrastructure (i.e., caching infrastructure).
[00:25:10] <RhinosF1>	 dmehus: test doesn't touch cp*
[00:25:15] <dmehus>	 Also, as far as I'm aware, the plan is for the Betaheze wiki databases to share the production database servers, so not sure whether you consider that still to be "completely isolated"
[00:25:56] <RhinosF1>	 The only thing linked to production is CreateWiki
[00:26:05] <RhinosF1>	 Shares same hardware in parts
[00:26:56] <dmehus>	 yeah, but I was talking about non-MediaWiki infrastructure?
[00:27:22] <RhinosF1>	 It's the same mysql instance
[00:27:26] <RhinosF1>	 But different db
[00:27:32] <RhinosF1>	 Gluster is the same setup
[00:27:40] <RhinosF1>	 Memcache is flipped round
[03:15:20] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> I'm not quite understanding this, and the wikipedia page on helping with this issue isnt't making it any clearer. How can I add rows/columns to a table so I can make a desired shape?
[03:34:23] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> you can code tables in HTML (w/ tags) tho
[03:35:21] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> but in wiki markup | ... is a cell |- divides cells on rows
[03:36:13] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> `{| | start of the first row |second cell in the row |- |start of the second row ... |}
[03:37:26] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> wait, which editor are you using?
[03:42:43] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> html
[03:42:58] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> I got something I'm a fan of, though there is something I'm wondering if is possible
[03:43:17] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> Do you see how the data color for the table is this lighter grey?
[03:43:17] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/435711390544560128/925594797513785384/unknown.png
[03:43:31] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> Is it possible to make a row that's just all that light grey and not the header's dark grey?
[03:45:52] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> this is default styling of tables, class wikitable table can be customized greatly w/ style="..." or CSS classes/id's
[03:47:18] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> I'd create new class and instead of header coloring would leave just background-color
[03:47:55] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> or modify "wikitable" class by `.wikitable th { background: transparent; }
[03:48:26] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> I think this is the way
[03:49:02] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> Thanks for the help, appreciate it. (Trying to both learn from scratch and have a pleasing format is harder than I thought)
[03:50:36] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> I suggest to poke things w/ browsers element inspector
[03:52:27] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> last thing I'd think to ask, is it possible to replace the mirahaze logo on your wiki page?
[03:52:57] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> manage wiki's settings
[03:53:01] <MH-Discord>	 <Legroom> styling tab
[09:37:28] <MirahezeBot>	 https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8509 - Database Error - Fatal exception, authored by Wekhter, assigned to None, Priority: High, Status: Open
[18:14:01] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> I've tried changing just about every permission for one of my users, but they still are unable to edit or create any wiki page. Is this just an issue with having a private wiki?
[18:16:21] <RhinosF1>	 Which wiki and which user
[18:16:45] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> RivalsResearch, user Invy is unable to create or edit pages regardless of the permissions i give
[18:20:41] <RhinosF1>	 We will look
[18:21:30] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> I think the permission he was needing was interface admin instead of bureaucrat, uncertain
[18:22:06] <MH-Discord>	 <BowlingKing> Solution found, thanks for the quick response
[18:22:24] <RhinosF1>	 Int-admin should only affect MediaWiki namespace
[18:22:37] <RhinosF1>	 Which is only for interface and system messages