[01:59:28] darkmatterman450 : Why are you loading Wikimedia Twinkle? [01:59:34] Miraheze Twinkle has been around for about a year now [01:59:48] Actually over a year [01:59:55] 15 months [02:11:00] Naleksuh Uhhh, you might find that other people have been using Wikimedia Twinkle aside from me. [02:11:08] Why? [02:11:17] Ask YellowFrogger. [02:11:49] Being honest, I wanted to change up my global javascript a bit. [02:12:46] And besides, why would it matter if I used the Wikimedia Twinkle? I mean, Miraheze's Twinkle isn't exactly complete, is it? [02:14:51] Besides, I still use Miraheze's Twinkle system, but mostly to request deletion of an out-of-scope page or pages and mostly to log the QD logs. [02:15:46] What do you mean "isn't exactly complete"? [02:16:01] It is very complete, and works more with Miraheze than Wikimedia Twinkle does, which is tailored to a different site [02:16:30] It's also loadable as a gadget on Meta [02:16:41] Some templates are pretty much missing. (That is, if they are missing anyway.) [02:17:01] @chrs You're definitely right there. [02:26:48] @Naleksuh restore is better than Twinkle because: it's very fast and doesn't need a summary : it reverts faster, it looks like the rollback function. And the amazing thing is that it wasn't made for this [02:27:15] Twinkle also doesnt need a summary unless you choose an option that uses one [02:28:10] I said Restore doesn't need summary, which is good because it's faster and feels like Rollbacker [02:28:39] What option? [02:39:06] 04rollback (VANDAL) [02:49:41] This one doesn't appear that word "identified as vandalism" and something like that? Restore is good because TW needs to click "(cur | prev)". If had a TW rollback link in the edit history (like Restorer) would it be easier, or is there? [02:54:15] It should be everywhere it is normally [03:10:48] Naleksuh A lot of the Twinkle features were originally from Wikipedia anyway. [08:17:24] @RhinosF1 how do I get a new 2FA backup code though? I have finished all my codes cuz of auto logout. [08:19:39] Disable and re-enable 2FA [08:21:07] okay. [13:07:44] Hello Mirahezers [13:09:04] Back in the day I was needing structured data storage interweaved with MediaWiki for my consumer empowerment wiki, but never got to implementing it, because of the massively complex use case that the knowledge graph needs to be intelligently connected to various other knowledge graphs [13:09:08] Hello Iamthehuman1. [13:11:54] Now a simpler case has arisen on my wiki against the synthetic filth. I'd need one of the following: WikiBase, Semantic MediaWiki or LinkedWiki (or Cargo?). This knowledge graph would not have any interoperability demands and needs to store mainly links and info on the links to start with [13:13:25] So store links as structured data and generate views of 'em in wiki. Any suggestions / info ? [13:15:33] This was what I gathered on the possibilities in 2019 https://develop.consumerium.org/wiki/Knowledge_graphs [13:15:34] [url] Knowledge graphs - Consumerium development wiki | develop.consumerium.org [13:17:32] sure there are other things to add to the knowledge base too: organizations, companies, people and such later on, but to get the links into a system where they can be tagged with statements like "Site X is a", "Site X serves geographic area Y", "Site X is nonprofit" etc. [13:18:38] If you are familiar or capable with Cargo, you stand a chance, and Wikibase is included as well [13:18:45] Semantic MediaWiki is impossible iirc [13:20:02] thanks raidarr [13:20:07] that narrows it down [13:22:26] Cargo I haven't really explored yet. I do have a Wikibase installed at a test wiki. Now reading https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cargo [13:22:27] [url] Extension:Cargo - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [13:23:14] Np, hope you get what you want; our resident ugochinobi has gone the farthest as far as 'data' on miraheze goes and could lend some advice on attempting it, while a volunteer named Lake has done at least a bit with Cargo (I know a few others have, but I don't recall them at this time) [14:53:11] Welp, I'm still getting logged out automatically. [14:59:15] Login stays persistent for me and the script should be done, perhaps a cache clear is required in some cases [15:10:08] ^ [15:50:26] When can we have `Requests for Comment/Requests for Comment/Requests for Comment` [21:14:10] Hello Guest3339! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [21:27:45] Hello BelCalm! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [21:30:51] hello [21:49:05] how do i install twinkle on mirahez [21:49:10] *miraheze [21:52:03] i want twinkle in my wiki how do i install [21:54:15] how do i install twinkle [21:56:57] Naleksuh: are you able to help ^ [21:57:31] Guest93 : Add `mw.loader.load("https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Twinkle.js?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript");` to you common.js file [22:12:43] So, Libera has dropped the ball yet again and had two service outages in one week, impressive [22:13:02] And to add onto that, they also quit almost all users, taking their logged in status and channel permissions with them [22:13:08] freedom was locked out for like 20 minutes [22:13:14] Any chance of a Miraheze IRC server, Agent? [22:14:15] No there is 0 chance [22:14:21] Is your name Agent? [22:14:46] I'm responding as SRE [22:14:59] I don't really care what you have to say about the matter [22:15:06] Even the wikimedia foundation gave theirs up over the hassle [22:15:30] Not the locked down RC one but the one in the freenode rotation [22:15:53] Agent is just going to be responding based on the grounds Rhinos is offering, so it's a bit fruitless to discount the answer [22:16:12] It does seem like the wikicreators channel is either out or reset my access [22:16:20] Nope, it's up [22:17:01] A Miraheze IRC server has been suggested but it's just a pipe dream at this point unless more people signal their interest for it [22:17:03] Hello jice! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [22:17:15] Try joining again raidarr [22:17:26] Hi [22:17:27] You'll of been locked out because of the services issues earlier [22:17:35] Agent: there is 0 chance it'll happen [22:17:37] what kind of IRC server do you want? one to chat with users or one to display RC and be readonly [22:17:47] 2 different things at Wikimedia [22:17:55] They are far too suspectible to DoS [22:18:08] mutante: a proper one for chat with users is what's being asked [22:18:17] if you want the "RC-feed-readonly IRC" thing..that's easier [22:18:29] that would be irc.wikimedia.org equivalent [22:18:31] Agent : Ignore RhinosF1 [22:18:32] DM me [22:18:34] WC channel still wants me to be invited [22:18:56] Hmm [22:19:01] that you can just reuse the puppet role and should not be super hard [22:19:11] $a:raidarr is set [22:19:13] It works fine [22:19:30] Perhaps I need to reset my connection then [22:19:46] the hassle that Wikimedia gave up on was because that was "an IRC server that is also part of a real IRC network" [22:20:01] but that does not mean I would recommend "standalone IRC server NOT part of any network" [22:20:36] you should make one and then be PART of libera :p [22:20:40] that's the real answer [22:20:49] Hi there, I just created a private wiki on miraheze. To ease things for other people who may use it, i created a account for all them. on one of them, i made an error in the username. Is it possible to delete this wrong user ? [22:20:53] if libera netsplits from you, you still have your own working [22:20:53] That just makes it even worse [22:20:56] jice : No, you cannot [22:21:08] no, it means you can all fallback to your own server if the others have an issue [22:21:13] but ALSO get decentralization, heh [22:21:23] Both because MediaWiki does not support deleting users and because you don't have control over the individual accounts, they're part of Central auth [22:21:23] :-( [22:21:32] jice: we can't delete accounts, you can either get them to request a rename or just abandon it and create a new one [22:22:11] @RhinosF1 : that's what i did... [22:22:27] Thanks. [22:22:45] No problem [22:22:50] We're happy to help [22:22:55] :-) [23:17:51] how do i enable user preference for preferences to not get grayed out [23:23:38] ? [23:23:53] hi [23:24:03] how do i make preferences grayed out [23:31:41] how do i make prefrence grayed out [23:31:47] i mean users cant change prefrences [23:32:12] Guest93: their own preferences? [23:32:56] yes [23:34:20] Guest93: I guess revoke `editmyoptions` from the `user` user group [23:34:34] but even then, I believe that can be overriden by global preferences? [23:35:17] o.o [23:35:54] raidarr [23:35:55] You're back [23:36:04] Can you get into #miraheze-wikicreators ? [23:36:21] raidarr: 1984 :P [23:36:23] aye [23:50:08] you can access in Special:Preferences [23:56:54] how do i install twinkle as a fadget [23:57:17] *gadget