[00:30:11] [discord] When next mh meeting [00:36:52] [discord] March 1st [01:53:13] .op [01:53:13] Attempting to OP... [01:58:22] htpps://http.cat [01:59:11] ??? [02:03:32] Website of http status codes with cat pictures [02:13:44] Uh, why is MirahezeBot still here? [02:13:48] dmehus [02:24:33] Naleksuh You're becoming too aggressive to the point that it's getting below everyone's skin/ [02:25:20] s/skin. [02:26:03] is the bot not supposed to be here or something? [02:27:28] No, it is [02:31:21] Voidwalker : Depends on who you ask [02:31:42] I was under the impression it was being removed but Agent is not only trying to keep it but writing requirements for people to use it onwiki [02:32:03] To the best of my knowledge, it's not getting removed any time soon :) [02:32:57] And why would that be? [02:33:07] There's no reason to remove it [02:33:10] Miraheze Bots was given limited time to rename and seperate themselves, which is almost expired [02:33:17] Uh, there are lots of reasons to remove it [02:33:17] and? [02:33:35] MirahezeBot operated as ZppixBot before on this channel [02:34:11] Naleksuh: there is no need to remove the bot from the channel even if we rename etc [02:34:41] Naleksuh You haven't even given out a reason why they should, and it sounds like you want them removed just to boost your own ego, which unfortunately you have forgotten that MirahezeBots are pretty much a staple in terms of meetings. [02:35:02] All three of those statements are fabrications [02:35:19] If we remove them, then what's the point of running the meetings? [02:35:28] .op [02:35:28] Attempting to OP... [02:35:48] How are they fabrications? [02:36:07] ^ [02:36:22] The meetings are...meeting. You meet [02:37:55] MacFan4000 did you actually mute him/her? [02:38:23] Yes [02:38:39] It will be auto removed in a day [02:39:12] Well, I was kind of tired of seeing this user complaining about the MirahezeBots not being removed, and the aggression this user has shown left me in bad taste. [02:39:49] But I think we should move on from this subject anyway, as this will lead us nowhere if it ends up chattering this channel. [03:52:18] I'm not sure a quiet, at least without a clear warning, was warranted here [03:52:43] If there is consensus from participants in the channel for a quiet, this can be reimposed by an ideally uninvolved channel operator [03:56:45] dmehus: to be clear everything else that i've done came after the quiet [03:57:06] and so far two other users agree with it [03:59:19] MacFan4000, yeah, as I said, I think Naleksuh should've been warned and, ideally, an uninvolved channel operator imposed any temporary sanction. There's no policy around the latter, but the former is definitely more of a best practice. John encourages clear warnings prior to sanctions [04:02:38] He can remain unquieted as long as he doesn't start picking fights [04:02:50] ^ i agree with that [04:20:58] alright so what actually is the problem with MirahezeBots in the first place? [04:21:14] [discord] Yeah [04:23:32] it seems that there's some sort of incident that happened but I'm not sure what it was [04:23:46] or how serious [04:23:56] [discord] I'm not sure if both parties would be comfortable in sharing what occured but I'd say it's rather petty [04:25:50] that doesn't seem to imply there's much of an ongoing problem/concerns to be worried about [04:26:43] [discord] It's just a little disagreement which is being blown out of proportions by someone [04:26:48] To be clear, I have some minor-ish issues with MirahezeBot, mainly around the open proxy kickban methodology, but as long as I, and Stewards, have the ability to liberally whitelist affected users, I'm okay with it [04:27:46] [discord] well then you should address the issue, particularly as IRC is Stewards' domain and as you are part of the MirahezeBots team [04:29:04] Agent, yeah, I have. I would ideally like to get better clarity on the scoring calculation MirahezeBot users and make it less strict (i.e., require a score of 80% or higher, rather than whatever the current threshold is) [04:41:14] chrs : No, it's more of an ongoing problem [09:07:07] [discord] Miraheze is still experiencing technical difficulties [09:07:39] [discord] Literally only one user here is actually significantly bothered by MirahezeBot, so the above conversation is much ado about one user's grudge as it often seems to be in these cases [12:10:29] [discord] Hi [12:10:44] [discord] REcaptcha is failing on my wiki [12:11:16] [discord] Recaptcha is blocking someone from making an account on my wiki [13:58:37] Hello MavropaliasG! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [16:58:56] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8835 - Do something about bots hitting special pages, authored by RhinosF1, assigned to None, Priority: High, Status: Open [16:58:57] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8834 - Monitor LoginNotify & failed logins, authored by RhinosF1, assigned to None, Priority: High, Status: Open [16:59:54] oh, perhaps we want to change the phab notifs to -sre and not here [17:00:19] We do [17:00:28] But i been saying I'll backport it for ages [17:18:32] you split SRE into a separate channel? aww.. that explains a few things [17:19:16] my recommendation: don't repeat WMF's mistake when it comes to the "let's have separate IRC channels" followed by "move the bots around" [17:21:07] What was WMF's mistake? [17:24:25] to split "place where people work on stuff" from "where people are supposed to go to ask questions". and "it's a good idea to move bots to a different channel to reduce noise" vs "actually reacting to bot messages" [17:25:52] and in general a constant circle that goes "we need another channel" "now we should move bots" "the bots are too noisy" "now we have too many channels" and back to the start [17:27:14] Miraheze has done pretty well with it's currently channel setup for at least the past year, I think [17:27:18] and bridges between different comms protocols that sound good in theory but not so great in practice [17:27:58] well, I am out of this one then because now I now the stuff I would be interested about is not supposed to be here [17:28:19] bye [20:41:06] [discord] ^ wut [20:42:48] .shrug [20:42:48] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [22:49:16] Hello Void-bot! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon.