[06:25:29] <MirahezeBot>	 Hello IceCreamGrenade! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon.
[06:27:16] <IceCreamGrenade>	 Working on helping my friend get a wiki done for her comic.  Got docs working, got infoboxes working (to some degree) but I am having some issues with 'templatedata'.  The fields for the visualeditor will not populate and attempting to add 'templatedata' tags in the noinclude at the end of the template file... results in... nothing.  Just a
[06:27:16] <IceCreamGrenade>	 greyed out mess.
[06:30:25] <IceCreamGrenade>	 according to what I read templatedata is used by visualeditor to give it information on what forms can/need to be filled in.  Older versions of mediawiki... you had to install it as an addon.  Apparently it is bundled with the software?  In any case, I need to create two different distinct categories of infobox. One for the characters and the
[06:30:26] <IceCreamGrenade>	 other for various races/species.  But in order to make it usable for her... i need that information in the visualeditor.
[06:30:26] <IceCreamGrenade>	 Any assistance would be appreciated.
[06:32:32] <IceCreamGrenade>	 (this is such a pain in the arse that if I were making a wiki for myself I would probably just punch it all in manually and ignore visualeditor altogether.  TBF it will probably pay off in the end, once i get it working, but so far this is an awful experience.)
[06:35:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> is there a reason for templatedata to be in noinclude? kind of illogical
[06:35:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> and you talk about Miraheze wiki, right? MediaWiki is up to date here, so older versions nuances can be ignored
[06:36:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> is there a reason for templatedata to be in noinclude? seems to be kind of illogical (edited)
[06:37:13] <IceCreamGrenade>	 The tutorials all suggest templatedata be in noinclude. I can move it to try it but afaik it is there to prevent that data from appearing on pages because it is only meant to be used on the backend for keeping track of variables you want displayed in the visual editor
[06:40:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> is your wiki on Miraheze? if so you need to enable TemplateData in extensions first
[06:41:53] <IceCreamGrenade>	 Yup.  Miraheze
[06:42:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> extension enabled?
[06:42:39] <IceCreamGrenade>	 See, thats what I thought but I couldnt find it!  Afaik its not even in the list of extensions.  According to what I read you can only enable extensions via localsettings.php.  Which, i do not believe i have access to
[06:43:36] <IceCreamGrenade>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Extensions
[06:43:36] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Extensions - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org
[06:44:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I checked my wiki, the extension is there, idk why it's not on Meta article
[06:45:10] <IceCreamGrenade>	 I will go look then!  That's useful info ty
[06:45:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> it should be in
[06:45:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> `...Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-parserhooks`
[06:46:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> parser hooks tabs
[06:47:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> on Miraheze you don't have access to things like local.php and don't have to download extensions, you just turn on/off available extensions in ManageWiki Extensions menu and further settings can be defined in Additional settings menu
[06:48:35] <IceCreamGrenade>	 I think she disabled nearly everything  o_o  Any other things you recommend enabling?  I see a bunch here I would probably enable
[06:48:48] <IceCreamGrenade>	 I'll have to ask her to do it because this isnt my wiki and i dont have the perms.
[06:49:04] <IceCreamGrenade>	 I thinkk this is EXACTLY what I needed and was looking for.  TY a ton btw
[06:49:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> see by yourself, clicking on extension name will take you to full MW documentation
[06:49:36] <IceCreamGrenade>	 Cargo... arrrays.... youtube.  Theres a LOT of stuff here
[06:49:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> exactly
[06:52:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I'd suggest wiki owner to give you admin rights, otherwise it's gonna be hard to go back in fourth, especially w/o seeing admin/managewiki menu
[06:53:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I'd suggest wiki owner to give you admin or higher rights, otherwise it's gonna be hard to go back in fourth, especially w/o seeing admin/managewiki menu (edited)
[06:54:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I'd suggest wiki owner to give you admin or higher rights, otherwise it's gonna be hard to go back in fourth, especially w/o ready admin/managewiki menu sidebar (edited)
[06:56:31] <IceCreamGrenade>	 Super thankful.  it says mhbridgebot.... and discord. So i assume this is an irc->discord bridge?  In which case... is there a discord I should join? XD
[06:56:49] <IceCreamGrenade>	 if yall ever need help shoot me a message. I am extremely thankful for the help
[07:02:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> yeah there's discord lol
[07:02:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> you're welcome
[07:03:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I think correct invite link must be on miraheze main page (not wiki one)
[07:03:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> at least
[07:04:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> ah it's just
[07:04:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> https://miraheze.org/discord
[07:04:55] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Miraheze | miraheze.org
[07:04:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> lol
[07:10:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <.﴾ ȻӇѦӨĐDЇ₮Ῠ ﴿.> done and done!  Thank you once again.  Mostly I am an artist but I also do a bit of programming.  If you need me (or anyone does) I am here now.
[07:11:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> same lol
[07:11:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> currently debating if I shall delete twi
[07:14:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <.﴾ ȻӇѦӨĐDЇ₮Ῠ ﴿.> whats twi?  are you referring to the language?
[07:14:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> twitter lol
[07:15:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> but that's offtopic so eh
[07:55:53] <CosmicAlpha>	 twi is Twitter? I've been wondering what that meant since last time you abbreviated it like that... lol
[08:19:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> why are y'all surprised
[08:19:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> lol
[10:37:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <.﴾ ȻӇѦӨĐDЇ₮Ῠ ﴿.> never saw it abbreviated like that tbh!  also the discord-miraheze auth system is pretty cool
[11:37:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I call it "Twit-Ter sometimes
[11:38:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I call it "Twit-Ter sometimes due to well, a certain well known person (edited)
[11:38:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Eytirth> I call it "Twit-Ter sometimes due to well, a certain well known person who is banned from Twit-ter (edited)
[11:39:06] <ugochimobi>	 lol
[14:25:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Considering the same and making preparations.  The platform is getting less technically stable by the day, considering they laid off most of the SREs + the contractor workforce, I don't see how it continues to operate by end of year.
[14:26:01] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Why would that be illogical, that is absolutely where it belongs as it is documentation stuff, so it shouldn't be transcluded
[14:26:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Also to be able to enable and disable extension one needs to have bureaucrat(thank god for spell checker, I can never spell that work correct xD) permission
[14:26:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Also to be able to enable and disable extensions one needs to have bureaucrat(thank god for spell checker, I can never spell that work correct xD) permission (edited)
[14:28:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> lucky for me I never bothered with twitter in the first place
[14:28:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> but it's a shame how far down it went
[14:30:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Never used it much, but do have an account and like the past week or so I got like 3-4 invites to scammer group chats...
[14:31:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Reception123> Miraheze is accepting any Twitter SREs :p
[14:31:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Heh
[14:32:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Reception123> only I'm afraid they'll have a large salary decrease
[14:33:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gummiel> Of like infinite % 💸
[14:33:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> my personal and art account luckily, for their age, don't have phone numbers attached lol
[14:33:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> still, personal data leak would be nasty
[14:34:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> the problem however is account I've made for my wiki
[14:34:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> my personal and art accounts luckily, for their age, don't have phone numbers attached lol
[14:34:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> still, personal data leak would be nasty, so I wanna get out
[14:34:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> the problem, however, is account I've made for my wiki, and jt serves quite well (edited)
[14:35:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> my personal and art accounts luckily, for their age, don't have phone numbers attached lol
[14:35:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> still, personal data leak would be nasty, so I wanna get out
[14:35:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> the problem, however, is account I've made for my wiki, and it serves for its purpose not badly, at least SEO wise (edited)
[15:59:14] <Xana7>	 hello
[16:01:58] <ugochimobi>	 Hello Xana7:
[16:02:15] <Xana7>	 hey, is there a place i can send messages for help with things asynchronously?
[16:02:32] <Xana7>	 as in, i can send it, and it doesn't need to be responded to IMMEDIATELY for it to be read at all
[16:02:47] <Xana7>	 like will the phabricator work?
[16:07:02] <ugochimobi>	 for help? you're on the right channel then
[16:07:38] <Xana7>	 ...did you read what i said?
[16:08:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <06000208> join the discord and make a thread in the support channel
[16:08:45] <Xana7>	 sure
[16:08:54] <Xana7>	 but before i do, will phabricator work as well?
[16:09:02] <Xana7>	 for this sort of thing that is
[16:09:09] <ugochimobi>	 what's it about?
[16:09:26] <Xana7>	 as in like technical help
[16:09:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <06000208> no clue, im new around here. i believe the phabricator has categories with descriptions, one might suit your needs
[16:09:45] <Xana7>	 like stuff that i can post at one time, and come back later to have responses after
[16:09:51] <Xana7>	 aight, i'll check out both
[16:09:54] <Xana7>	 thank you
[16:10:36] <Xana7>	 oh anyhoo- the questions about finding images with the image searcher using visual editor
[16:11:04] <Xana7>	 like i can't find images i uploaded no matter how i type in the name. it's as if i didn't upload it recently or scroll all the way to it, it's not findable
[16:11:15] <Xana7>	 this is a pain when trying to make galleries
[16:11:26] <Xana7>	 if this isn't something yall know offhand, i'll save it for elsewhere
[16:11:35] <ugochimobi>	 I've experienced that too
[16:11:58] <ugochimobi>	 You'll have to type the exact name of the file
[16:12:02] <Xana7>	 i tried that
[16:12:11] <Xana7>	 or rather, what do you mean exact name?
[16:12:14] <ugochimobi>	 like Example.jpg or Example.svg
[16:12:17] <Xana7>	 oh
[16:12:26] <Xana7>	 can you use spaces and is it case-sensitive?
[16:12:38] <ugochimobi>	 as long as it is the file name
[16:12:45] <Xana7>	 aight
[16:12:47] <Xana7>	 thanks
[16:12:49] <ugochimobi>	 plus the extension
[16:12:55] <Xana7>	 extension
[16:13:01] <Xana7>	 *extension?
[16:13:07] <ugochimobi>	 file extension
[16:13:11] <Xana7>	 ah
[16:13:13] <ugochimobi>	 I mean the jpg at the end
[16:13:19] <Xana7>	 yeah i gotcha dw
[16:13:19] <ugochimobi>	 or png or svg
[16:13:21] <Xana7>	 thanks for the help
[16:13:24] <ugochimobi>	 alright