[00:23:14] [discord] anyone have thoughts on the current GS opt-out policy [00:23:46] [discord] linked here: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Global_Sysops#Local_interference [00:23:47] [url] Global Sysops - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [00:24:19] [discord] imo point 4 should be removed [00:24:41] [discord] if it's a MH policy violation, action should be able to be taken whenever [00:29:36] [discord] Hello [00:29:41] [discord] Where can I ask a question? [00:30:21] [discord] right here πŸ™‚ [00:31:27] [discord] what do you need assistance with? [00:33:06] [discord] I am curious if I can translate the UI into another language that isn't already supported [00:33:17] [discord] what language? [00:33:33] [discord] It's a language that you have never heard of called Qardashi. [00:33:47] [discord] It doesn't have an ISO code [00:33:52] [discord] that's a mediawiki thing, rather than Miraheze [00:34:14] [discord] you need to go to their i18n stuff to translate [00:34:37] [discord] yeah [00:35:26] [discord] Ok, how would I do that? [00:36:16] [discord] it's probably through translatewiki.net, but I'd check MW.org first to gather some info [00:36:27] [discord] because I'm not sure they will accept a non-ISO language [00:36:28] [discord] Ok [00:36:50] [discord] It poses an issue [00:36:58] [discord] Because the language uses the Perso-Arabic script [00:37:05] [discord] And is written right to left [00:37:23] [discord] script is not an issue [00:37:26] [discord] it should still work [00:37:47] [discord] (unless there's some extension that can translate the menus, but I'm not sure if that exists) [00:37:53] [discord] The issue is that the lines still start on the left despite the Arabic alphabet [00:37:55] [discord] btw is it a language that you made up https://micronations.wiki/wiki/Qardashi_Language [00:38:04] [discord] it should still work [00:38:05] [discord] Not me, but a friend [00:38:10] [discord] makes sense [00:38:38] [discord] It is a constructed language, but that shouldn't be a problem [00:38:59] [discord] yea it sounds fine [00:39:04] [discord] Where can I check anyway? [00:39:25] [discord] [00:39:25] [url] Localisation - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [00:39:26] [discord] probably this [00:40:38] [discord] There is an extension [00:41:19] [discord] That'll be easier cause I don't need a whole MediaWiki translation, I just need it for this one wiki [00:42:46] [discord] So how do you install extensions? [00:44:02] [discord] at this point i think it *might* be best if one of us refers you to the official mediawiki assistance server [00:44:15] [discord] we're a miraheze server, focusing on that specific wiki farm [00:44:55] [discord] the MW server will be able to assist you better [00:45:23] [discord] https://discord.com/invite/ZrV2Ex9 [00:45:24] [url] MediaWiki | discord.com [00:45:55] [discord] Thanks [00:46:03] [discord] yeah no worries [00:58:34] [discord] Also, I can't manage my wiki from my Wiki? [00:58:56] [discord] Can I manage it from the Miraheze meta with the account I used to make the wiki? [00:59:19] [discord] You have to open ManageWiki from your own wiki [00:59:26] [discord] I did [01:00:34] [discord] How do I give myself permission? [01:00:41] [discord] Do I have to do that from the meta? [01:00:48] [discord] I was the first register account on the wiki [01:03:03] [discord] Are you using the account you used to request the wiki? [01:05:11] [discord] Do I just use the same login details for meta? [01:07:30] [discord] Yes, accounts are global [01:08:05] [discord] Then yes [01:08:12] [discord] I am [01:08:18] [discord] The options are still grayed out [01:09:52] [discord] What's your username? [01:11:40] [discord] @Agent ^ [01:23:08] [discord] Seems offline, hopefully another staff can get to it [01:25:46] [discord] should be done now [01:25:52] [discord] Yeah, hopefully another Steward can get to it \:P [01:25:53] [discord] Agent took care of it [01:25:59] [discord] sniper [01:26:04] [discord] lmaooo [01:26:12] [discord] see DMs? [01:26:19] [discord] can't [01:26:23] [discord] if you don't have much time right now, totally fine [01:26:31] [discord] no worries, just whenever you have a chance [01:27:04] [discord] Thanks everyone [01:27:08] [discord] Y'all are so helpful [01:27:21] [discord] Sorry if I am annoying [01:28:47] [discord] no you're good [01:28:51] [discord] don't worry about it [02:58:19] [discord] :BanHammerMH: [02:59:54] [discord] hm? [03:02:15] [discord] In response to getting rid of the spam bots [03:02:48] [discord] ah [03:04:32] [discord] No worries at all, it's exactly why this community exists - paying it forward by helping out newcomers looking to set up wikis. [04:02:18] [discord] In the end, I figured it out, and I can localize to Qardashi. I am doing that now [04:03:16] [discord] I ended up changing the language to Arabic to get it written from right to left [04:19:04] [discord] why cant i purge [04:19:06] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1070196571540553740/image.png [04:31:13] @Izy what wiki is this error occurring on? [04:31:18] and is it only for purging? [04:32:23] you may also want to file a request on [[phab:]] [04:32:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [04:32:52] hm, odd [04:33:01] [[:phab]]? [04:33:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/:phab [04:33:40] [discord] [[phab:]] [04:33:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [04:33:41] [discord] [04:33:42] [url] Main Page | phabricator.miraheze.org [04:33:51] [discord] @Izy ^ [04:34:03] [discord] apologies for the slight error via IRC, it was being glitchy [04:34:39] [discord] ah yes it was https://mockelections.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [04:34:40] [url] Mock Elections Wiki | mockelections.miraheze.org [04:35:12] [discord] and yes only for purging [04:35:13] [discord] looking [04:35:30] [discord] `[1a03c37e16cdaf70e6e42d73] 2023-02-01 04:35:18: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBQueryError"` hm [04:35:45] [discord] @Izy happy to file a request on Miraheze Phabricator [04:37:50] [discord] Hello, how can i change my mp so discord embeds the mp's wiki content to the description instead of '.' https://versus.miraheze.org/wiki/Versus_Wiki [04:37:50] [url] Versus Wiki | versus.miraheze.org [04:38:15] [discord] could you elaborate a bit further? [04:38:29] [discord] @Site Reliability Engineering [04:39:00] [discord] like instead of the "." in the discord embed, i would want it to embed the wiki's content (such as "Welcome to the x Wiki!" https://versus.miraheze.org/wiki/Versus_Wiki [04:39:00] [url] Versus Wiki | versus.miraheze.org [04:40:44] [discord] filed a request on phabricator [04:40:55] [discord] [[phab:T10414]] [04:40:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T10414 [04:40:56] [discord] [04:40:56] [url] βš“ T10414 Database Error: Fatal exception "Wikimedia/Rdbms/DBQueryError" | phabricator.miraheze.org [04:41:07] [discord] looking [04:41:15] [discord] which page? [04:41:22] [discord] i don't seem to be able to locate a discord embed [04:41:49] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1070202290830594118/image.png [04:41:51] [discord] like this [04:42:00] [discord] ah [04:42:03] [discord] one second [04:43:34] [discord] [[Stewards' noticeboard]] [04:43:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard [04:43:34] [discord] [04:43:35] [discord] for example [04:43:39] [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [04:43:45] [discord] and if i was to paste it....https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard [04:43:48] [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [04:44:28] [discord] interesting, @Twisted i'm not exactly sure [04:44:53] [discord] it might be something in your ManageWiki/settings [04:44:57] [discord] but i'm not positive [04:45:20] [discord] works on google tho (even tho it doesnt rank high) [04:45:21] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1070203173798682644/image.png [04:46:04] [discord] it might be something to do with search settings [04:46:14] [discord] https://dev.miraheze.org [04:46:15] [url] Miraheze Developers Wiki | dev.miraheze.org [04:46:37] [discord] @Twisted i just pulled up `devwiki`, which is one of Miraheze's official project wikis [04:46:40] [discord] the same thing appears [04:46:43] [discord] yeah [04:46:46] [discord] it might just be a miraheze search engine issue? [04:46:58] [discord] not sure if there's a way to actually fix it [04:47:03] [discord] discord embeds are weird [04:47:13] [discord] Hey [04:47:14] [discord] it works for the genshin impact wiki [04:48:00] [discord] How long is the drawn feet page going to be closed for? [04:48:29] [discord] hi [04:48:34] [discord] what page? [04:48:46] [discord] https://genshinimpact.miraheze.org [04:48:47] [url] Genshin Impact Wiki | genshinimpact.miraheze.org [04:48:51] [discord] apparently so [04:48:56] [discord] Drawn Feet Miraheze [04:49:17] [discord] this is a question better suited for others, i'm afraid. i'm not too experienced in this area. apologies. [04:49:24] [discord] https://drawnfeet.miraheze.org? [04:49:25] [url] Permission error - Drawn Feet Wiki | drawnfeet.miraheze.org [04:49:28] Dev wiki looks the same to me [04:49:30] [discord] Yes [04:49:30] [discord] that wiki? [04:49:31] What's wrong with it [04:49:36] [discord] Mhm [04:49:38] [discord] it's a Discord embed thing [04:49:56] [discord] naleksuh: ^ [04:50:03] [discord] not something you'd see on IRC [04:50:10] [discord] looking [04:50:23] [discord] Thanks for the response ! [04:50:33] [discord] happy to be of assistance [04:50:43] [discord] The wiki was closed due to copyright violations. [04:50:52] [discord] 😦 [04:50:56] [discord] Until local bureaucrats rectify the issue, the wiki will not be reopened. [04:51:13] [discord] Are you a bureaucrat on-wiki, or do you know one of them? [04:51:22] [discord] thanks, never figured out how phab worked [04:51:27] [discord] I'm just a normal user [04:51:29] [discord] πŸ˜… [04:51:41] [discord] totally understand, it takes a bit to get the hang of the platform [04:51:51] Also, are people commonly using Twinkle preferences? I never de-Wikipedia-ified them but it seems to be being commonly used [04:52:24] [discord] you should go to https://phabricator.miraheze.org/auth/start/?next=%2F [04:52:25] [url] Login | phabricator.miraheze.org [04:52:37] [discord] and click `Login or Register` above the mediawiki icon [04:52:43] [discord] Hopefully local Bureaucrats rectify this, i posted images for George Shrinks Book and Young Tarzan. [04:52:44] [discord] in what sense naleksuh [04:52:51] The preferences page [04:52:55] [discord] ...are those under copyright? [04:52:58] It still has a bunch of wikipedia shit [04:53:01] I never de-wikipedia-ified it [04:53:03] [discord] I use the page [04:53:13] [discord] it's not extremely miraheze-friendly but it works [04:53:20] [discord] They belong to copyright owners, and are for viewing only. [04:53:24] [discord] this is server for wiki platform man [04:53:38] [discord] also isn't there a huge notice on wiki [04:53:49] [discord] [[phab:T10414]] if you want to check the status of the task [04:53:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T10414 [04:53:50] [discord] [04:53:50] [url] βš“ T10414 Database Error: Fatal exception "Wikimedia/Rdbms/DBQueryError" | phabricator.miraheze.org [04:54:16] [discord] I would recommend sending a note to a bureaucrat of said wiki [04:54:20] [discord] and remind them to fix the issue [04:54:30] [discord] if it isn't fixed soon, eventually the wiki will be deleted [04:54:40] [discord] How do i do that? [04:54:53] [discord] noted and tq [04:55:04] [discord] leave a message on one of the 'crats talk pages [04:55:16] [discord] happy to assist πŸ™‚ [04:56:10] [discord] if you don't know who are the admins (what usernames they have at least on the wiki), then I guess there's no way to contact them [04:56:31] [discord] it's fully up to them to fix the issue [04:56:53] [discord] @brandon, if you're trying to get it to link to meta by default, I believe that requires a colon after that to identify it as a prefix. e.g. [[meta:]] [04:56:53] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ [04:57:01] [discord] Cause they're arent many drawn foot wiki's out there [04:58:53] [discord] @NotAracham are you trying to @ me? [04:59:09] [discord] Plus everything on the wiki says permission error [04:59:28] [discord] Yes, it would as the wiki is closed and private due to aforementioned copyvio [04:59:41] [discord] wrong Brandon [04:59:52] [discord] Yep, apologies. [05:00:05] [discord] Guess i can only pray they figure it out. [05:00:10] [discord] permission error means that only admins anf global miraheze admins (aka stewards) can access the wiki until the fix the issues and open the wiki again [05:00:11] [discord] tried [[meta:]] [05:00:11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ [05:00:13] [discord] but nothing [05:00:30] [discord] Maybe the bot doesn't understand interwiki [05:00:33] [discord] oh wait maybe [[m:]] [05:00:33] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ [05:00:33] [discord] [05:00:34] [url] Meta | meta.miraheze.org [05:00:40] [discord] It's a nice wiki for people who like drawings [05:00:40] [discord] There ya go. [05:01:19] [discord] yeah, just was confused for a second because the bot recognizes `phab:` often so not sure why it wouldn't take `meta:` [05:01:29] [discord] except it wasn't `meta:` πŸ˜‚ it was `m:` [05:01:55] [discord] Meta's a valid interwiki global interwiki prefix, but the bot is keyed to look for certain things as 'valid' [05:02:16] [discord] ah [05:02:25] [discord] so would [[dev:]] work? [05:02:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev: [05:02:25] [discord] [05:02:26] [url] Miraheze Developers Wiki | dev.miraheze.org [05:02:31] [discord] yes apparently so [05:02:40] [discord] Anyway, no need to clog up general w/ it. [05:02:53] [discord] Feel free to party in the Bots channel as needed for testing. [05:03:03] [discord] thanks [05:05:11] BWM backwards is MWB [05:05:32] [discord] miraheze wiki best [05:05:34] [discord] idk [05:05:42] [discord] lol [05:49:00] [discord] lmao [07:24:38] [discord] Hi dudez [07:25:49] [discord] yo [08:44:18] [discord] Does anyone know if Miraheze will ever have the usergroup names appear in brackets like this? I thought it was a default thing in newer versions of MediaWiki. Yet Miraheze still doesn't have them, despite migrating recently. [08:44:18] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1070263312631210055/PrtScr_capture_794.png [08:44:19] [url] User group rights - translatewiki.net | translatewiki.net [08:51:44] [discord] maybe there's a specific setting for that? [08:53:57] [discord] Wow i didnt know cosmic alpha was the author of dpl3 [08:55:22] [discord] Based on the extensive manual for it on gamepedia, seems like a pretty complex thing [08:55:22] [discord] translatewiki is 1.40-alpha so that's why I think [08:56:12] [discord] Wikipedia must be too. Since it has it. [08:57:16] [discord] yep [11:42:20] [discord] How would I put something like vector-2022-view-edit / skin-view-edit into a MediaWiki page on a wiki [11:43:10] [discord] Like example.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki: [13:29:12] [discord] Goodnight! [13:35:43] [discord] example.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:vector-2022-view-edit [16:44:07] [discord] Can we embed ? [16:46:56] [discord] you should be able to, yes [17:08:26] [discord] Friends, how can I edit link builders that have a url shortener of a wiki? I'll do it for [[mh:feign:Special:UrlShortener]]. [17:08:26] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/feign:Special:UrlShortener [17:08:27] [discord] [17:08:28] [url] Δ°zin hatasΔ± - Feign Wiki | feign.miraheze.org [19:13:00] [discord] can you explain what you mean? [19:18:22] [discord] anyone else have issues with pages constantly disappearing from categories? [19:19:02] [discord] its like every few days, a good chunk of the pages will not be included on the category page, and all i can do is make a dummy edit on all those pages to get them back in [19:28:42] [discord] i made a task: [[phab:T10417]] [19:28:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T10417 [19:28:43] [discord] [19:28:44] [url] βš“ T10417 Pages constantly disappear from Category | phabricator.miraheze.org