[02:07:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> WAIT you want help with something related to tencent right
[02:07:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> i cant help with that myself but i know a couple people who know about a lot of chinese software (mainly for researching genshin impact stuff)
[02:07:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> dont know them personally just wrote some wiki articles with them
[02:28:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <luv * lab * poison 22ate!> ok has anybody ever done a dark mode/light mode switch for their wikis that can be like... customized with css
[07:35:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> it can be customized, but it's quite a work
[07:35:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> I believe there are some specific classes, see its MediaWiki documentation
[07:36:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> or you mean make your own dark moe from scratch?
[08:16:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> is it possible to toggle off this part from discord edit notifications
[08:16:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072068344859086888/image.png
[08:17:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> Yeah, I am going to disable thst.
[08:17:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> Give me a minute... the extension just got rewritten completely basically.
[08:17:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> 👍
[08:18:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> no hurries, I was just wondering
[08:18:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> What's your wiki?
[08:18:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> pgrwiki
[08:18:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> pgr.miraheze.org
[08:18:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> Oh, I didn't know it was on all feeds lol, I thought I just placed it on the new experimental feed.
[08:18:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> #cvt-feed-experimental
[08:21:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> Do you mind if I deal with this tomorrow? I am a bit tired tonight, but can if absolutely need it removed.
[08:22:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> oh, of course! There is really no need to if it's a hassle, I was simply wondering because it doesn't look as clean as before we can live with it if necessary
[08:23:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> It won't be there at all for any longer than a week for sure.
[08:24:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Spectrazzz> that's perfectly fine on our side 👍
[08:25:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> I just put it there to make sure I didn't break the entire extension lol, I completely rewrote it today, to add some experimental CVT monitoring support. My testing worked, but you never know if I broke something I couldn't test.
[08:25:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> 
[08:25:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> Thanks for understanding!
[08:26:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> I'll see if I can get it to only be where it was originally meant to be tomorrow though...
[14:04:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <OatCookies> Goodnight!
[14:13:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> hi everyone
[14:13:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> i install extension:createwiki in my wiki
[14:13:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> but it error
[14:13:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072158143984976004/1cbf8f1474568037.png
[14:13:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> can help me??
[14:14:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <msnhinet8> wfLoadExtension( 'CreateWiki' );
[15:26:31] <MirahezeBot>	 https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10117 - db121 frequently OOMs, authored by Reception123, assigned to None, Priority: High, Status: Open
[16:07:17] <MirahezeBot>	 Hello hare! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon.
[16:08:27] <hare>	 I am one of the operators of InternetArchiveBot, a bot that fixes dead links on wikis. It is currently running on four Miraheze wikis. Since it may be helpful to more wikis, is there a way we can publicize to Miraheze users that this is available?
[16:08:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> genshinimpact.miraheze.org may find this useful
[16:09:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> is there any cost or something to make it run on your own servers or is it just one already running bot account that can run on any wiki
[16:10:01] <hare>	 there's no further cost in deploying it to new wikis
[16:10:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> ah
[16:10:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> thats good
[16:10:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yeah it sounds interesting
[16:10:49] <hare>	 and if you wanted to run the code yourself it's free and open source software; that said you don't have to
[16:10:54] <hare>	 https://github.com/internetarchive/internetarchivebot
[16:10:55] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] GitHub - internetarchive/internetarchivebot | github.com
[16:13:47] <Naleksuh>	 Hare : but that bot doesn't fix many links
[16:13:56] <Naleksuh>	 That's why people have to do it manually
[16:14:01] <hare>	 What are you talking about?
[16:22:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> for a bit of perspective: who supports having StructuredDiscussions on Miraheze Commons over regular talk pages
[16:22:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> for context see topics 10 and 18 on the Commons community noticeboard
[16:23:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> frankly i'm a :OpposeMH: **Strong Oppose**, but wanted to see what others thought
[16:31:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> I'm not sure where to find this.  I found something called Structured Data (not Discussion) but it's already over/unsuccessful and also the proposals don't mention 10 and 18.
[16:32:03] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> is there a link?
[16:34:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> just found something older
[16:34:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> where is this?
[16:40:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Commons:Community_noticeboard#StructuredDiscussion_as_a_barrier_in_some_instances
[16:40:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> https://commons.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Commons:Community_noticeboard#Removal_of_StructuredDiscussions_Extension
[16:40:15] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Miraheze Commons:Community noticeboard - Miraheze Commons | commons.miraheze.org
[16:40:15] <MirahezeBot>	 [url] Miraheze Commons:Community noticeboard - Miraheze Commons | commons.miraheze.org
[16:40:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> 
[16:40:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Han> I'm assuming it's these?
[16:41:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> Thank you.  I don't think I've ever looked there before
[16:47:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> How do I find documentation about extensions?
[17:28:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> Personally I find changes like when we moved to MediaWiki upgrade difficult  to maneuver.  If the StructuredDiscussions is part of the changes I see, I most definitely am struggling.  I too feel I have lost control of my talk pages and can't figure out how to code in general on my regular pages - which is partly reason I started tinkering with templates.  Almost impossible for me to read my own pages for any wiki.  I just d
[17:28:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> 
[17:28:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> I don't oppose because I simply don't understand the extension.  But it has hampered my ability to contribute as a whole.  I could change the skin but that is a completely new endeavor.   And I definitely do not want to customize...  however, I would like a button to ask me do you want to check out the change for this session?  so I can check it out and then come back.  to give me time to adjust.
[17:29:29] <hare>	 I am not sure Structured Discussions is still under development. I would avoid it for that reason alone.
[17:29:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> I'm not voting
[17:29:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> just answering Brandon's question
[17:30:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> giving my thoughts
[17:30:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> Flow / Structured Discussions is still developed
[17:30:16] <hare>	 Ah, that's good
[17:30:27] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> But Discussion Tools is nicer, Flow was poorly thought out
[17:30:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> i don't like to vote on topics that I don't understand.  i keep abstaining
[17:30:48] <hare>	 Discussion tools is the newer stuff right? I really like it and am surprised we didn't get it ten years ago
[17:30:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> Structured Data is a completely different thing @imamy
[17:31:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> Yes
[17:31:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> hare guided me to the structureddiscussions topic
[17:31:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> Discussion Tools is part of the Growth team’s talk page improvements project
[17:33:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> there has to be a better way to promote awareness
[17:34:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> yes
[17:34:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> i feel we are all scattered.  there's discord. phabricator.  now i realize each wiki eg meta and commons are more places to track
[17:34:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> yep
[17:34:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> i didn't even know about commons notice board until just now
[17:34:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> also at the very minimum for miraheze project wikis
[17:34:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> there should be a page that says look here
[17:34:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> the talk pages should be the same
[17:35:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> what do you mean?
[17:35:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> in order to know what anyone is talking about i have to know how to find it.  seems like if there was a phabricator message i have to learn how to access phabricator
[17:36:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> not to learn how to use phabricator but to learn how to get into phabricator
[17:36:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <imamy> and then be aware that phabricator is a place to look for discussion
[17:37:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> @BWM I think an outright removal is not the best but I would certainly consider switching the default content model of the namespace back to wikitext
[17:37:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I don't particularly like Flow
[17:37:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> yeah me neither
[17:37:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> default in what sense
[17:37:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> users could opt-in to flow?
[17:37:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> They can opt out now if they wish and by the same mechanism, opt in later
[17:37:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> I don’t believe it’s possible to preserve content and outright remove
[17:38:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> I think there's a maintenance script somewhere which tries to convert Flow to wikitext
[17:39:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <RhinosF1> That’s good if there is
[21:17:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <administrator> internet archive of the internet archive of the internet archive of the internet archive of the internet archive of the...
[21:50:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> Yo, does anyone know how to target the ace editor to give me some darn line wraps when I edit the CSS with it? I *really* don't like having to scroll left and right a lot with it.
[21:52:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> I tried to solve it myself by poking at it in inspector mode but I haven't found a way to force it to break lines to get rid of the left-right scrollbar.
[22:25:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Neo Qwerty> Nevermind, found the option that toggles it and a snippet that turns that on by default
[22:25:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> good work
[22:45:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <florigon> 🤦‍♂️ i did not realize there's an on/off button for codeEditor
[22:55:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> lmao rip
[23:06:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tera> Quick question, is there any way to know how many visitors I got on my wiki?
[23:06:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> yes
[23:06:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> Special:Analytics
[23:08:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tera> Damn I thought those only showed users with an account
[23:09:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> dont think so
[23:10:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> unless you gave the `*` (shown in managewiki as `(everyone)`) the `noanalytics` right, it will show logged out users as well
[23:10:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> may be wrong about that though
[23:11:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <prettyraddude> If I wanted to upload images to my wiki I would go to extensions and turn on the upload wizard right?
[23:11:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> If you've not set up WikiSEO with Google Search Console, I strongly recommend doing so.
[23:12:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> You can upload one-by-one with the special:upload page, uploadwizard just allows for bulk uploads of multiple images
[23:12:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <prettyraddude> Ah ok
[23:12:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> indeed
[23:27:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Tera> Where would I be able to do that again (in case its not)?
[23:28:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Colleiflower> Special:ManageWiki/permissions