[00:05:11] [discord] im guessing thats unique visitors [00:05:22] [discord] probably [00:05:23] [discord] dont know [00:05:25] [discord] those [00:05:56] [discord] yes [00:06:03] [discord] probably unique visitors [00:06:05] [discord] i dont know [00:19:43] [discord] Nice [00:19:46] [discord] Thanks again [00:20:24] [discord] np [01:21:04] [discord] 👍 [02:07:39] [discord] my problem witht he page previews/popups has gotten even worse [02:07:56] [discord] whats wrong with it now [02:08:30] [discord] its not working on pages that it did work on yesterday [02:08:39] [discord] pages i specifically did modifications to in order to make them work [02:08:56] [discord] i dissected the api request [02:08:57] [discord] What's your wiki's URL? [02:09:04] [discord] worldtriggerwiki.com [02:09:20] [discord] can you show an example of a page which doesn't work? [02:09:35] [discord] its the part that determines its in plain text thats making the extract stop getting [02:09:37] [discord] yes [02:10:00] [discord] pretty much most [02:10:10] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072338453217427486/image.png [02:10:22] [discord] i wrapped all the heading stuff in this in its own noexcerpt div [02:10:28] [discord] even tho the elements individually had noexcerpt [02:10:31] [discord] and work fine for some characters [02:11:39] [discord] https://worldtriggerwiki.com/w/api.php?action=query&prop=extracts&exchars=175&titles=Daisuke_Ashihara [02:11:40] [url] MediaWiki API result - World Trigger Wiki | worldtriggerwiki.com [02:11:55] [discord] exactly [02:12:12] [discord] however page previews adds another parameter [02:13:29] [discord] worldtriggerwiki.com/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&prop=info%7Cextracts%7Cpageimages%7Crevisions%7Cinfo&formatversion=2&redirects=true&exintro=true&exchars=525&explaintext=true&exsectionformat=plain&piprop=thumbnail&pithumbsize=640&pilicense=any&rvprop=timestamp&inprop=url&titles=Daisuke_Ashihara&smaxage=300&maxage=300&uselang=content [02:13:49] [discord] its the explaintext=true [02:13:56] [discord] that makes or breaks the extract [02:14:12] [discord] false doesnt fix it but getting rid of it does [02:18:35] [discord] yea wtf [02:18:36] [discord] @Dusty how are you applying noexcerpt? [02:18:40] [discord] thats strange [02:18:50] [discord] ive had a similar issue [02:18:58] [discord] with wikiseo and noexcerpt [02:19:01] [discord] that can never be fixed [02:19:04] [discord] I think the issue on this wiki is with how noexcerpt is being applied [02:19:14] [discord] except for by manually setting the wikiseo description for each page [02:21:09] [discord] in the html [02:21:25] [discord] How though? [02:21:26] [discord] for the most part [02:21:31] [discord]
[02:21:32] [discord] Like where are you applying it? [02:24:26] [discord] ? [02:25:09] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072342218012102686/image.png [02:25:19] [discord] this is from a page that does work [02:25:27] [discord] but it looks like this on pretty much all of the pages [02:25:52] [discord] What I'm seeing is that a paragraph tag with the mw-empty-elt class is probably messing with previews [02:26:08] [discord] thats a problem i had before [02:26:10] [discord] so i got rid of them [02:26:20] [discord] also i used JS to add noexcerpt to all those [02:26:28] [discord] Bingo [02:26:31] [discord] is it the js [02:26:32] [discord] That's what I was looking for [02:26:36] [discord] ohhh [02:27:28] [discord] That method won't work. TextExtracts ignores JavaScript so any JS you apply to try and add noexcerpt to tags will not work as TextExtracts looks at text directly and doesn't apply any JS [02:27:35] [discord] gotcha [02:27:38] [discord] ill take it out then [02:27:51] [discord] Try wrapping an entire infobox with a div tag with noexcerpt and see if it works [02:28:11] [discord] but ive checked all these pages for empty p anyway [02:28:16] [discord] that was just a backup [02:28:27] [discord] it didnt work [02:28:29] [discord] i tried that a few days ago [02:28:35] [discord] On what template? [02:28:41] [discord] infobox character but also [02:28:43] [discord] in the pages themselves [02:28:44] [discord] to test [02:29:01] [discord] so i put it in the character page itwself to test [02:29:04] [discord] and it fixed this guy [02:29:10] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072343232689737811/image.png [02:29:15] [discord] his started working so i was like oh maybe thats why [02:29:23] [discord] today [02:29:24] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072343289908428810/image.png [02:29:47] [discord] :sadyeasthaw: [02:32:54] [discord] pls ignore the overlapping words [02:33:30] [discord] its really hard to write css for these you can only inspect them when ur hovered over them 😭 [04:18:28] [discord] @Administrators whoever created all the new feed channels, a #login-feed might be useful as well [04:18:31] [discord] for `loginwiki` [04:20:07] [discord] Oh that's :DoneMH: **Donezo** [04:20:13] [discord] thanks [04:21:38] [discord] I'm working on improving DiscordNotifications to have better Discord feed support also (rather than only using IRC feeds for some things) like the new #cvt-feed-experimental more changes and improvements to come shortly. [04:22:02] [discord] that would be excellent if it could be done [04:22:18] [discord] maybe also consider making the channels announcement ones? [04:22:26] [discord] so users can subscribe the feeds to their own wiki servers [04:22:31] [discord] if they wish [04:22:58] [discord] I rewrote the entire extension yesterday for this type of support.... [04:22:59] [discord] [04:23:00] [discord] Feeds can already be added per wiki via ManageWiki also. [04:23:28] [discord] no I mean Discord wiki servers [04:23:42] [discord] Yes, that can be done? [04:23:46] [discord] That won't be happening as messages in announcement channels don't automatically get broadcast, there has to be a human who pressed a special button to do that [04:24:01] [discord] ohh [04:24:04] [discord] right [04:24:05] [discord] oh, I thought you meant per wiki individual feeds. [04:24:13] [discord] that could also be useful [04:24:21] [discord] That can be done... [04:25:00] [discord] yep, might look into a feed for some of the more vandalism-heavy wikis [04:25:36] [discord] the most vandalism heavy wikis tend to be the smallest ones [04:26:25] [discord] Hi I want to upload some images to commons. How do I set up the license? these images are my own work [04:27:36] [discord] On the upload page, just remove the part that says "{{No license}}" and in the drop-down box that says "Licensing", pick the license you like [04:27:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:No_license [04:27:37] [discord] [04:27:38] [url] Creating No license - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [04:28:16] [discord] CC0 = anyone can use your photo without giving you credit [04:28:16] [discord] [04:28:17] [discord] CC-BY-SA 4.0 = People can use your photo but have to give you credit [04:28:35] [discord] there's also one that says "NonCommericial" which means companies can't use your photo to make money [04:29:24] [discord] great. thing is i'm not sure how to reach that drop down box. how do i find it? if i remove the license and click on upload, when or where does the drop down appear? [04:30:03] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072373652869357589/Screenshot_20230206-222944.png [04:30:11] [discord] It says Licensing there [04:30:50] [discord] ohhh [04:30:58] [discord] let me see if it's there [04:31:08] [discord] yes i see it [04:31:20] [discord] thank you so much [04:31:24] [discord] np [04:32:27] [discord] @Agent see DMs [04:59:58] [discord] is there a way to get back the edit source button on the talk page? [05:00:50] [discord] i'm using the commons for first time and it's not giving an edit source option in the talk page [05:01:43] [discord] also there is no preview option as well [05:15:53] [discord] how does one delete a topic? [06:26:44] [discord] # [06:38:54] [discord] if it's already in the support venue someone will get to it [06:39:01] [discord] you don't need to post it in multiple areas [09:14:12] [discord] is there any plans to bring back the ReplaceText extension? or is it gone for good? [10:38:59] [discord] I think you should migrate to MassEditRegex or AWB [10:39:22] [discord] It is gone for good due to issue with file compression [10:39:57] [discord] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T8157 [10:39:58] [url] ⚓ T8157 Investigate compressing databases by default | phabricator.miraheze.org [11:10:58] [discord] There are plans to eventually introduce ElasticSearch/CirussSearch yes [12:07:27] [discord] in FANDOM there was a dev js script which was able to hook user's profile image and insert it anywhere (can't remember how exactly, w/ a tag or class idk) [12:07:27] [discord] has anyone tried to do the same on Miraheze, w/ enabled social profile? [12:45:36] [discord] I think miraheze in China is much slower than before [12:45:57] [discord] We have no servers in that region which may be why [12:46:11] [discord] unlike North America and Europe where our content proxies are located [12:47:41] [discord] Is it related to political factors? [12:49:31] [discord] I think the wiki farms in China aren't as good as miraheze 🙂 [12:49:42] [discord] So that's why I use miraheze [12:55:08] [discord] Chinese gov loves censorship and that's a big no for Miraheze [12:57:02] [discord] some guy here tried to persuade us(?) to officially register Miraheze as a company in China and abid to their censorship requirements and hell knows what else [12:57:43] [discord] Yeah. That's why it is difficult to chat with you in discord [12:58:58] [discord] and watch videos in youtube [12:59:00] [discord] ( My English is not good ) [12:59:21] [discord] it's ok [12:59:30] [discord] your English I mean, so far [13:00:52] [discord] In fact I find than in like 95% of cases, when someone say "sorry for my bad English" or similar, they tend to be among one of the better at English writing xD [13:03:43] [discord] Emmmm [13:04:44] [discord] In fact, I'm just 14 and the result of my English exam isn't good (108/120) [13:06:59] [discord] Miraheze in QQ is a dangerous website xD [13:07:54] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072503975410151454/image.png [13:08:22] [discord] (The current page is not an official page) [13:09:04] [discord] DON'T ENTER YOUR QQ ID OR PASSWORD [13:09:33] [discord] If you want to visit the website [13:09:41] [discord] Please copy it [13:12:58] [discord] well I have to finish my English homework. [13:12:58] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072505249631305788/image.png [13:16:46] [discord] While I don't know that scoring, and what it means exactly, 108/120 doesn't sound that bad to me. On top of that generally teen-year exams really doesn't reflect real world usage in most subjects in the first place. [13:23:44] [discord] emmmm I think exam-oriented education is not good for our English [13:24:17] [discord] like memorizing words over and over again [13:25:01] [discord] But my teacher thinks it is necessary [13:40:20] [discord] memorizing words without context, like how they appear in sentences, dialogues and texts, can be boring, had this in school too [13:40:20] [discord] English is not my first language too, but I was studying French in school [13:40:22] [discord] I actually got into English by myself and how to "use" it while playing games and reading comics without translation, watching movies with subtitles and using primarily English sites like Tumblr, all while jumping into Google Translate lol [13:42:09] [discord] later I had actual English lessons in university, as a beginner, because of French in all 11 years of school lol [13:42:20] [discord] Yeah pretty much the same Legroom. In fact I clearly remember getting home and complaining to my mom (for whatever good that would do xD), that I didn't understand anything going on in the English lessons in the earlier years I had them. Where as today I am more or less fluent in it (I am natively Danish) [13:43:03] [discord] Well, many Chinese learn English this way, too. [13:43:43] [discord] I still struggle with grammar tbh lol [13:45:45] [discord] hahaha, yeah Grammar, this fun thing you use all the time, but never think about. I honestly thing I would have a hard time to explain any English grammar rules due to learning it basically via PC games, and Internet. On the flip side I still know quite a lot of the German grammar rules, those were drilled into us like no tomorrow, but due to rarely needed German, I barely know any German words anymore, and thus all that [13:50:17] [discord] I like Chinese because it's verbs have no temporal changes hahahaha [13:50:53] [discord] like "I am finishing my homework" and "I finished my homework" [13:51:01] [discord] æˆ‘æ­Łćœšć†™äœœäžš [13:51:42] [discord] 我äč‹ć‰ćźŒæˆäœœäžš [13:51:44] [discord] æ­Łćœš=now and äč‹ć‰=ago [13:53:23] [discord] So it is simple to learn the grammar of Chinese [13:54:50] [discord] I would be more concerned with trying to learn what each kanji even mean to start with, looks like kid doodlings to me :P, and all so similar [13:56:12] [discord] There was six ways to make kanjis [13:57:21] [discord] First, many kanjis look like something like æ—„ă€æœˆ [13:57:35] [discord] æ—„=sun, 月=moon [13:57:42] [discord] 盼=eye [13:58:51] [discord] Second, many kanjis mean some events. [13:58:52] [discord] And a bit of shaking with the hand, if you write on paper, and all those would look the same I am pretty sure xD [14:00:53] [discord] haha xD Third, you should think of some kanjis as two parts [14:01:31] [discord] one part is its meaning [14:02:03] [discord] the other is its pronunciation [14:04:07] [discord] Most of the kanjis are made by these three ways [14:05:38] [discord] Most of the kanjis have simplified [14:12:08] [discord] Traditional Chinese is popular in Taiwan, Hong Kong and Mecau and simplified Chinese is popular in others places in China. [14:31:10] [discord] Goodnight! [14:32:48] [discord] Good night! [14:33:08] [discord] And I finished my homework successfully [14:33:48] [discord] I'm going to take a shower and go to bed [16:07:04] [discord] have a good night [16:07:16] [discord] > Miraheze in QQ is a "dangerous" website xD [16:07:17] [discord] lmao thats pretty funny [16:44:43] [discord] I managed to forget eating breakfast while I was chasing design fixes, oops. [16:44:43] [discord] [16:44:44] [discord] On that topic, can I customize themes (not skins, themes, like Stellarbook on Monobook or dark-grey on Vector) and if so where are those dang things hiding and can I change a system message to give them custom names [16:47:50] [discord] (I only found documentation on how to add new themes which is not what I want to do) [16:52:20] [discord] I've spent 99% of my time on miraheze importing templates & fixing CSS than actually working on the wiki 😭 [16:53:12] [discord] I'm still setting up templates and CSS so you're not alone in that boat [17:01:58] [discord] We should really figure out a way to have template packages [17:02:09] [discord] maybe something with templatewiki [17:02:09] [discord] in what sense? [17:02:20] [discord] devwiki is the best right now for that. [17:02:21] [discord] like different types of templates in a bundled file or something [17:02:50] [discord] more like a category on devwiki which can easily be exported and imported onto one's wiki [17:03:03] [discord] so like Category:Basic-package could be selected in Export and then used with Import/ImportDump [17:03:10] [discord] That should be possible yeah. [17:03:15] [discord] That'd be nice! [17:03:30] [discord] ohh okay that makes sense [17:03:37] [discord] what templates were you thinking of? [17:03:54] [discord] We could have a starterwiki also, that can be optional on wiki creation, prefilled with some stuff to be copied to the new wiki. [17:04:25] [discord] I don't think that would be *super* hard to implement either. [17:04:56] [discord] so like, `starterwiki` exists, and if users opt-in, the content of `starterwiki` is copied over to `XYZwiki`? [17:05:04] [discord] Would make it easier for newer wikis. [17:05:14] [discord] :SupportMH: [17:05:14] [discord] Yeah. [17:05:18] [discord] gotcha [17:06:20] [discord] Maybe @Agent can do an RfF about it and see if it is even wanted (unless this has been discussed before, sounds familiar), then I can look if implementation is even feasible. @Reception123 thoughts? [17:13:04] [discord] that sounds very good [17:13:50] [discord] I've been thinking about ~~ab~~using scary transclusion to make Infoboxes with portable infobox which you can use to transclude on your wiki easily as long as you have PortableInfobox enabled [17:14:06] [discord] That way you wouldn't have to spend time on actually making an Infoboxe [17:17:37] [discord] I had this project mulling as well. Clear equivalent ones needed off top of mind: [17:17:38] [discord] [17:17:39] [discord] 1. Infobox Country [17:17:40] [discord] 2. Infobox Character [17:17:42] [discord] 3. Some kind of navbox? [17:18:36] [discord] Navbox timeline? [17:19:05] [discord] Probably recreating some common WP infoboxes [17:19:11] [discord] what if we were to copy https://starter.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page [17:19:12] [url] FANDOM starter pages | Fandom | starter.fandom.com [17:19:14] [discord] its under CC-BY-SA [17:22:25] [discord] Maybe, but generalist navboxes are always asked for to navigate to related pages for a topic [17:22:41] [discord] true true [17:23:15] [discord] as @Agent pointed out them, WP infoboxes probably best [17:23:19] [discord] also i created a blog listing page on starter.fandom.com https://starter.fandom.com/wiki/Blog:Nnnnnnn [17:23:21] [url] Blog:Nnnnnnn | FANDOM starter pages | Fandom | starter.fandom.com [17:25:09] [discord] Yeah, the ones I indicated were both intended as that, those are the two I most commonly see asked for [17:28:37] [discord] where are the requests for feedback located? [17:29:21] [discord] we can port wps base lua infobox, after that people can either build specific w/ by themselves or import another, w/o loads of errors [17:30:33] [discord] Usually community noticeboard when one comes up [17:30:52] [discord] thank you! 👍 [17:42:59] [discord] Done a bunch of googling but how the frick to I change the content of the mw-editsection [17:52:37] [discord] Special:AllMessages and filter for "edit", it's somewhere in there for you to customize probably. [17:55:08] [discord] I think specifically you want "edittools", given its placeholder default, if you want to change the text in the edit form. [17:58:01] [discord] Seems like I should find what I was looking for here but the one im looking for it the text next to headers ( unless you use _NOEDITSECTION_) [17:58:18] [discord] Ohhhh *that* one [17:58:43] [discord] Ye [17:59:54] [discord] MediaWiki:Editsection (which will change "edit" to whatever you tell it to use) [18:01:13] [discord] What about source and hide and hide all [18:01:20] [discord] Cause I got those too [18:01:29] [discord] Let's see... [18:05:01] [discord] Still all in MediaWiki namespace, `hidesection-hide`, `hidesection-hideall` (and `hidesection-show` and `hidesection-showall`) [18:05:14] [discord] I'm still hunting source down [18:07:01] [discord] I *think* edit source and edit might use the same message, or at least I can't find edit source in the system messages [18:23:34] [discord] Ah, that just brought another issue lmao [18:24:34] [discord] Im going to open a support thread later [20:50:05] [discord] js or css [20:50:11] [discord] oh oops [20:50:28] [discord] a better way to do this in some cases is adding ?uselang=qqx to the url [20:53:40] [discord] Issue is I want to replace the text, bracket and all with images, but I cant put images in MediaWiki:hidesection-hide etc [20:54:02] [discord] ah [20:54:08] [discord] js or css then [20:54:54] [discord] Would do that if I understood half of how the links to edit and hide are generated [20:55:09] [discord] Ill just make a support post in a bit [20:55:40] [discord] alright lmao [20:56:01] [discord] CSS target it, also the brackets have their own class (for some reason????) so you can target those too [21:06:25] [discord] I customized mine to be semi-transparent and switch border frames and go full opacity on hover and focus. [21:06:26] [discord] [21:06:27] [discord] the classes you want to target are `.mw-editsection` for both edit and edit source, `.mw-editsection a` for the link itself, and `.mw-editsection-bracket` for both brackets (you can target them individually with `.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-bracket:first-of-type` and `.mw-editsection .mw-editsection-bracket:last-of-type` for the `[` and `]` respectively too [21:06:28] [discord] [21:06:30] [discord] You can hide things by setting opacity to 0 or using display none, you can add images with some trickery with background images and padding and setting the color of the text to transparent to have the background image "clickable"... [21:06:31] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072624396646236311/image.png [21:06:32] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1072624396910460928/image.png [21:07:28] [discord] It's really a matter of using the inspector to poke at the elements until you grab the one you need to switch [21:41:50] [discord] Yeah I slowly started understanding the inspector and all [21:43:06] [discord] Ok I think I know what ill do [21:44:02] [discord] Put no text or an invisible character for edit and all, make each class be an image with my image-link class [21:55:30] [discord] can the CSP allow https://i.ytimg.com ? its the thumbnails for youtube videos in EmbedVideo [22:06:33] [discord] Is it possible to add script or style tags in an inline HTML tag on a Miraheze Wiki article? [22:15:54] [discord] script, i dont think so. you can add style tags but i think you need the templatestyles extension [22:16:26] [discord] sorry, i mean the CSS extension [22:17:22] [discord] actually thats if you want a stylesheet directly on a page. i dont think you need any extension to just put like