[00:10:13] [discord] There's Public Test Wiki: https://publictestwiki.com [00:10:13] [url] TestWiki | publictestwiki.com [00:30:48] [discord] Where is the iFrame extension? [00:30:56] [discord] can't find it in wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions [01:06:29] [discord] I don't think that's a supported extension [01:08:35] [discord] Yes, the iframe extension isn't allowed for a few reasons, see https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T9680 [01:08:36] [url] ⚓ T9680 Please add IFrame to https://hellominers.miraheze.org/ | phabricator.miraheze.org [01:29:46] [discord] I'll help 10 people to earn $100k within 3days but you will pay me 10% of your profit when you receive it. Note only interested people should apply, drop a message let's get started by asking (HOW) or WhatsApp me on +1(562)298-3794 [01:29:57] [discord] Sure [01:31:47] [discord] no, you can close it, you just need to click on this caret thing [01:31:49] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073053570200522812/image.png [01:41:45] [discord] thats horribly placed [01:44:21] [discord] I thought that was a "go back to the main page" or at the least a "go to a navigation page" link... 💀 [01:46:53] [discord] yeah [01:46:55] [discord] same [01:47:02] [discord] i hadnt noticed it at first [01:50:12] [discord] I clicked everywhere *but* on that thing [01:52:04] [discord] is that "back" button MW's idea? [01:52:49] [discord] yeah the WMF did it [01:56:54] [discord] The funny thing is just rotating it 90 degrees so it's pointing down at the menu would indicate "the menu is open" and make it intuitive to click on it, since then it'd be less of a leap to go "this is the menu indicator" [01:58:16] [discord] yea [01:58:46] [discord] waits for the auth link to show up [01:59:29] [discord] it sometimes doesnt send [01:59:32] [discord] unsure why [01:59:34] [discord] it's being looked into [01:59:39] [discord] not a miraheze-specific issue with the bot [01:59:55] [discord] Sometimes the bot is sleeping (also make sure you're allowing DMs from this server, it can't respond if you don't let it DM you) [02:00:55] [discord] yea [02:21:54] [discord] It's this exactly. Sending it a second time like, a half-minute later often works for exactly this reason. [02:26:47] [discord] ...y'know, I was saying it as a joke but knowing resource management a bit it really does make sense it would have an idle mode. [02:27:39] [discord] (and if it's still a joke now I'm even more curious to know how that bot works) [02:31:16] [discord] I'm oversimplifying it, but that's kind of how it works. It's a very mysterious bot. [02:32:14] [discord] tbf, if the issue was closed DM's it does make sure you publicly shame you for it 😉 [02:48:05] [discord] Ah yes new vector, sometimes I wonder if they even bothered to make a real responsive layout or thought a hideable menu was good enough [02:58:49] [discord] Monobook's more responsive than new Vector... (I get the feeling that I will be customizing the *H-E-double-hockey-sticks* out of 2022 when I'm there on my skin reskinning project) [03:00:35] [discord] hopefully future improvements to Vector 2022 will make it better [03:00:53] [discord] like the new button that changes the page width [03:01:59] [discord] It's got potential, it just... needs to be thrown at dummies with fresh eyes to see where design fails to be intuitive [03:19:09] [discord] I dunno new vector seems just worse (other than floating toc) on large viewports and not really much better on smaller ones 😕 [03:20:05] [discord] Haven’t seen monobook on a phone before and you’re right it’s actually somehow better than vector lol [03:40:55] [discord] I only know about phone mode monobook because its navbar jumpscared me when I grabbed the wrong window and squished my browser [03:41:35] [discord] (I didn't style the tabs there so it went from black tag bachground and search bar to BRIGHT WHITE) [03:42:43] [discord] But responsive monobook is a *very* good skin, honestly, and I'm glad it's on Miraheze [06:05:06] [discord] This is a bit of a weird concept, but does anyone know of a mediawiki-friendly way to display a video that is inline, looped, and possibly controls-less? [06:05:07] [discord] I'm expecting to have to just output data location with {{filepath:}} and then js in the browser-native player, but maybe there are more elegant ways. [06:05:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/filepath:Template: [06:05:08] [discord] [06:05:09] [url] Creating Filepath: - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [06:25:21] [discord] wait i submitted a comment and it said it was successful, then i reloaded the page 3 times at different times and now it did the comment 3 times at those same times [06:34:33] [discord] which page [06:34:48] [discord] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/29780#mw-section-comments [06:34:49] [url] Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [06:37:22] [discord] well that's weird [06:37:44] [discord] gonna go afk [06:37:46] [discord] regardless your wiki is likely to be declined [06:37:49] [discord] i will be back soon [06:37:52] [discord] yeah [06:38:18] [discord] Sorry to say, that's both a duplicate of commons wiki and a violation of content policy 9 with extra steps. [06:38:27] [discord] or wait maybe not [06:38:28] [discord] So I'm inclined to agree [06:38:30] [discord] anywho [06:38:49] [discord] oh the messages from @NotAracham didn't load [06:38:50] [discord] oops [06:39:00] [discord] sorry [06:39:29] [discord] yepp [10:59:00] [discord] How do i change the link of the main page in the navigation bar so that it points to a specific page? [10:59:23] [discord] I've seen another wiki be able to do this but I can't link it here apparently [11:05:01] [discord] You need to do /auth to post any link here [11:07:35] [discord] you probably need `MediaWiki:Mainpage` [11:07:35] [discord] by default it's blank and wiki's main page is just "Main Page" [11:07:48] [discord] OR [11:08:42] [discord] maybe they use DisplayTitle (the "Main Page" technically remains, but shows different title on the page) [11:09:18] [discord] https://uneasyvanilla.miraheze.org/wiki/UneasyVanilla_Wiki [11:09:20] [url] UneasyVanilla Wiki | uneasyvanilla.miraheze.org [11:09:24] [discord] You sure this is what they do? [11:11:40] [discord] yup, def the first method [11:11:41] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073199500874756128/IMG_20230209_141018.jpg [11:12:47] [discord] I'm very new to wikis so I don't quite understand what you mean [11:13:35] [discord] pages with `MediaWiki` prefix define some deep settings of the wiki [11:14:16] [discord] in this case `MediaWiki:Mainpage` defines what page is going to be treated as the main [11:14:28] [discord] by default this page is blank [11:14:45] [discord] and wiki has just "Main Page" [11:15:11] [discord] adding another page title on this page changes just that [11:15:35] [discord] you'll have to rename (aka "move") the normal "Main Page" as well [11:15:49] [discord] for example [11:19:18] [discord] these guys imported their wiki from FANDOM, so probably done that process back there [11:19:24] [discord] so, again [11:21:39] [discord] - type title you want in `MediaWiki:Mainpage` [11:21:40] [discord] to access it quickly add `MediaWiki:Mainpage` after `...wiki/` in URL of your wiki [11:21:41] [discord] - rename (button is called "Move") old Main Page to what you typed in that MW page [11:51:12] [discord] Type the title I want where in `MediaWiki:Mainpage`? [11:51:27] [discord] *yes* [11:52:01] [discord] 1. open that page [11:52:01] [discord] 2. hit the Edit button [11:52:02] [discord] 3. type the title you want [11:52:04] [discord] 4. save your edit [11:52:50] [discord] it's like editing any normal page [11:53:05] [discord] I've done that but I probably did it wrong [11:53:06] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073209924596801636/image.png [11:53:20] [discord] I hit save after this ofc [11:53:39] [discord] step 2 - rename the Main Page [11:54:17] [discord] with you saved [11:55:06] [discord] What if I already have a main page that isn't actually the main page but is what I intend to be the mainpage? [11:55:07] [discord] https://vanillaeuropa.miraheze.org/wiki/Vanilla_Europa_Wiki [11:55:07] [url] Vanilla Europa Wiki - Vanilla Europa | vanillaeuropa.miraheze.org [11:55:35] [discord] it should work w/o renames then [11:57:00] [discord] ok so now that page is the main page now [11:57:29] [discord] So all I had to do was just type the title of the page I wanted to be the main page into `.../wiki/MediaWiki:Mainpage`? [11:59:21] [discord] Well click the logo of your wiki, and that should take you to whatever is the Main Page of your wiki, that is probably the best way to test if you did it right I would geuss [12:09:25] [discord] 📗 Hi, I'm Adenin Konas. I'm the FGW Admin and owner of wikis on Miraheze. [12:09:25] [discord] 📚 İnfo: https://heyturkiye58.github.io/ [12:09:26] [discord] [12:09:28] [discord] 😉 You're speechless, can you read aloud, really? [12:09:29] [discord] (👩‍🏫👨‍🏫❤) [12:14:45] [discord] I just checked, it works [12:15:08] [discord] if it still doesn't for you, click "Purge" button [12:15:36] [discord] since you already had the page you wanted, yes [12:48:58] [discord] Thanks for the help [12:50:18] [discord] yw [12:58:42] [discord] I want to copy a template that is used on a fandom wiki [13:01:52] [discord] first thing to consider - is it infobox? [13:04:20] [discord] Yes [13:10:39] [discord] yes [13:16:15] [discord] then first go to your wiki and enable extension called PortableInfobox [13:17:26] [discord] Done [13:22:45] [discord] go to `Special:Export` page on fandom wiki [13:23:42] [discord] type name of the page you want to export, tick all boxes, example [13:23:43] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073232729497423982/IMG_20230209_162225.jpg [13:24:10] [discord] I think last revision will be fine 🤔 [13:24:39] [discord] you'll get a xml file [13:29:44] [discord] Thanks I got it [13:33:17] [discord] How do I give admin privileges to certain users? [13:42:27] [discord] imported it to your wiki? [13:43:32] [discord] hmm, I got logged out, anyone else? [13:45:21] [discord] `Special:UserRights` [13:47:32] [discord] If I am the creator of the wiki, does that mean I can never be demoted? [13:47:53] [discord] I want to make someone admin, but not if they are able to remove my admin perms [13:48:01] [discord] look [13:49:22] [discord] nvm i assume not [13:49:23] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073239187899301899/image.png [13:49:40] [discord] lemme finish [13:49:42] [discord] lol [13:49:47] [discord] ok [13:58:02] [discord] strictly speaking - there is no such thing as wiki creator/founder [13:58:02] [discord] but - here are 2 types of admin roles (aka user groups) [13:58:03] [discord] [13:58:05] [discord] 1. bureaucrat - the highest role [13:58:06] [discord] - it can promote and demote any lower role, and *only promote* bureaucrats [13:58:07] [discord] - it gives you access to ManageWiki, aka admin menu on Miraheze wikis [13:58:08] [discord] - only stewards (global Miraheze admins) can *demote* bureaucrats [13:58:10] [discord] - since you requested the wiki to be created, you are automatically getting this role [13:58:11] [discord] [13:58:12] [discord] 2. sysop - one step lower than bureaucrats [13:58:14] [discord] - it can promote and demote roles lower than him, and can't do anything w/ other sysops and bureaucrats [13:58:15] [discord] - it has enough right to work w/ `MediaWiki` pages, but can't access super admin menu [13:58:16] [discord] [13:58:18] [discord] if you'll make him a bureau, he won't be able to demote you of the same role [13:58:19] [discord] you can make him a sysop, but he'll be a little limited in wiki settings [13:59:48] [discord] Oh ok. I think I'll still just make him admin for now. Thank you [14:34:41] [discord] Goodnight! [15:38:56] [discord] @Agent [15:39:03] [discord] Can you please check dm? [16:03:20] [discord] css w/ wp imports, help needed [16:03:20] [discord] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1073267924149751940 [16:03:20] [url] Discord | discord.com [16:03:21] [discord] I can't look up, on my mobile only now [16:55:13] [discord] When I create a new group via the variable `wgGroupPermissions`, how can I add translations for the group without having to modify the files in `languages\i18n`? [17:00:00] [discord] When I create a new group via the variable `wgGroupPermissions`, how can I add translations for the group without having to modify the files in `languages/i18n`? [17:05:12] [discord] Locally on one wiki, via MediaWiki:Group-/ [17:05:38] [discord] So for bureaucrat, MediaWiki:Group-bureaucrat/fr is the page to change the name of the bureaucrats group in French [17:06:34] [discord] Is it possible to move a wiki to a new domain? [17:06:55] [discord] Specifically I have two wikis and want to move one to the domain of the other [17:08:38] you can request that on phabricator ([[phab:]] [17:08:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab: [17:09:07] [discord] there are lots of proposals to read: [17:09:08] [discord] [17:09:09] [url] Requests for Comment/Wiki governance and local elections RfC - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:09:09] [discord] It taked time to scroll that [17:11:59] [discord] We have to comment on all of them or only in a few? [17:12:22] [discord] Feel free to only place votes/comment on the ones you have strong opinions on [17:45:24] [discord] after a quick peek at the votes and comments I feel slightly less bad about not being able to figure out which clause our wiki would fall under because it seems like I'm not the only one 😅 [17:46:52] I'd say feel free not to comment on all but if you can I'd be great if you could :) [17:47:14] you can vote for a few every day :P [18:03:22] [discord] DCM wiki is getting pissed at me ugh. [18:03:55] [discord] Can one also use a different namespace? Or simply configure it in LocalSettings.php? [18:10:58] [discord] A different namespace for MediaWiki system messages? [18:28:58] [discord] :derpylurk: [19:07:30] [discord] Yes [19:09:02] [discord] Or that I can set this in LocalSettings.php [19:10:54] [discord] It's not possible to host system messages outside of the MediaWiki namespace [19:21:32] [discord] Where are the wikis? [19:21:32] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073322780382208070/image.png [19:33:45] [discord] is it possible to add ahrefs verification for my wiki domain [19:34:04] [discord] genshinimpact.miraheze.org [19:54:16] [discord] Hello [20:09:06] [discord] hi [20:33:16] [discord] The RfC got edit conflict'd [20:35:44] [discord] We know [20:36:12] [discord] That’s possible if there’s issues with creation. Shouldn’t impact much. [20:36:34] [discord] pretty sure its on his own local wiki farm deployment or whatever [20:37:02] [discord] @Justman10000 you’re missing config then [20:37:10] [discord] But don’t use central auth [20:38:09] [discord] They've already setup createwiki to some degree (I don't know, but also doubt, if it's functional) [20:38:32] [discord] Yeah, I was about to say, they already setup CreateWiki and ManageWiki so might as well throw in a little spice and setup CentralAuth too [20:39:43] [discord] Well, to be honest, they need to be able to get CentralAuth working before they should even attempt CreateWiki or ManageWiki [20:39:47] [discord] CA, CW & MW are called a nightmare [20:40:21] [discord] How? I? [20:40:32] [discord] Yes [20:41:45] [discord] CentralAuth is possible to setup with the docs on mediawiki.org. CW + MW are not, but an experienced sysadmin could set it up by referencing our setup. [20:42:12] [discord] Anyone in general, but yes, my comment is in relation to you. [20:43:53] [discord] Guys, how do I remove page revisions from my wiki? [20:43:58] [discord] I'd personally recommend doing something along the lines of and skipping out on all three extensions. [20:43:59] [url] Manual:Shared database - MediaWiki | www.mediawiki.org [20:47:28] [discord] ^ [20:52:26] [discord] Especially if you are doing a setup where you don't need to frequently add or remove wikis, setting up CreateWiki is overkill [20:55:01] [discord] Hello. Is it allowed to divulge one's wikis here? [20:56:40] Yes [20:56:45] Within reason [21:00:48] [discord] Well, I tried linking to my wiki here but the message was blocked. What could have happened? [21:01:15] [discord] You need to authenticate your wiki user with the bot to prove identity before you can share links. [21:01:27] [discord] You can get that process started by using the `/auth` command in any channel [21:09:02] [discord] @Orduin Shared database support was apparently deprecated in MediaWiki years ago, like 1.20 or something. I think temporarily undeprecated in MediaWiki 1.39.2, because it being deprecated completely broke the installer but still might not be the best way either. There really is no great shared database support out there. [21:14:03] [discord] Interesting, that should probably be mentioned on the page then. [21:15:44] [discord] I've setup a system with multiple wikis before on a single domain name without using CA, CW, or MW, but the main lifting of authorization and authentication was done through an LDAP integration (which I also wouldn't recommend for inexperienced devs) [21:18:26] [discord] So Drawn Feet Wiki is still closed huh? [21:18:39] [discord] Does really sound like users are cornered into using CentralAuth if they want a cohesive interconnected multi-wiki setup. [21:18:55] [discord] How long does it take for local Bueracrats to solve the copyright issue? [21:19:33] [discord] That's entirely up to them, they had 60 days from first notice. [21:19:56] [discord] Ok [21:20:03] [discord] Yep that was the idea, and then CentralAuth was never really designed to be used outside Wikimedia either. I think that was a valid argument against initially removing shared database support and why it just stayed deprecated for so long, but as far as I know removal is still eventually planned. [21:20:31] [discord] Been deprecated for like 10 years I think. [21:21:07] [discord] The bot just gives me a link that redirects to a Meta Wiki page about itself (WikiAuthBot). What should I do? [21:21:49] [discord] Heh, at least there's documentation for CentralAuth that works for getting it up and running (although I noticed from the last time I set it up that it didn't explain why some things were necessary, nor that doing them slightly out of order could break the whole thing). [21:23:39] [discord] Hmmm, what *should* happen is that you get a message like this from the bot in the chat channel [21:23:40] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073353510730600449/image.png [21:24:08] [discord] Followed by a private message from the bot that looks like this: [21:24:10] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073353634668089405/image.png [21:24:46] [discord] Clicking that link should take you to a page like this one, where you should click allow: [21:24:47] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1073353793498009620/image.png [21:25:10] [discord] It should then pop a brief authenticating thank you message before going to the auth-bot wiki page [21:27:06] [discord] If that OAuth page isn't working for you after clicking allow, I'd make sure you don't have any ad-blockers enabled for that page that might be preventing it from happenign [21:27:21] [discord] When I click it, it does not show this pop up, but only a page saying "your request has been processed". [21:27:39] [discord] And then it redirects me to the wiki page about the bot. [21:28:22] [discord] Hmmm... Can you try logging into meta.miraheze.org first before clicking on the bot link to make sure it'll pick up your login? [21:29:18] [discord] I'm already logged in. [21:37:18] [discord] thats strange [21:37:23] [discord] can you try running /auth again [22:07:53] [discord] @Adenin Konas [22:17:14] [discord] There was a big notice on wgSharedDB but they removed it because they’re undepreciating it [22:57:33] [discord] Hmm, based on it doesn't actually look like the use of shared databases was actually deprecated *for the purposes of multi-wiki hosting*, but was instead depreciated for use by extensions. [22:57:34] [url] ⚓ T308536 Sort out the documentation for Wikifamily setups (aka the missed deprecation of wgSharedDB) | phabricator.wikimedia.org [23:01:04] [discord] I make Wiki with an individual, I want to be active sometime soon as a non profit organization, may I be active now as a corporation? The country is Japan. [23:02:40] [discord] no clue [23:02:45] [discord] this is not a legal advice server [23:03:17] [discord] if it's a question about the [[Content Policy]] being a corporation or non-profit doesn't bar you from having a wiki but using a wiki for ads etc isnt allowed [23:03:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [23:03:18] [discord] [23:03:18] [url] Content Policy - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [23:08:42] [discord] Am I the only one who's wiki SEO completly stopped finding images unless specified all of a sudden? [23:16:15] [discord] There a way to redirect a page across to a different wiki? [23:24:45] [discord] If there is an interwiki entry for that wiki, then you can just redirect to an interwiki link. Otherwise, you can always just setup a "soft" redirect, which still requires the user to click the link to the target. [23:29:17] [discord] the only big restriction on a wiki being operated by/existing for a nonprofit/corporation is that it isn't used for commercial advertisement [23:29:33] [discord] Otherwise if it follows platform policy there doesn't seem to be an issue here [23:42:55] [discord] PageImage still detects stuff but WikiSEO can't find any image on the page unless I use {{#seo:|image=File:...}} [23:42:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23seo:Template: