[01:05:00] [discord] Hmm, I've been seeing a weird thing pop up with my infoboxes, for example here's part from my wiki's infobox on the left, and the official wiki box on the right, any idea why the sizes of pictures is weird? I assume it's something I didn't copy over from wikipedia? [01:05:02] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1075945933134639204/image.png [01:34:55] [discord] you might need to specify the image size since on Wikipedia's version, it's automated, but your version might not have that [01:34:58] [discord] How to I make it to where when I don't put information into the infobox the tag doesn't appear in the infobox? In this case, I don't have anything for Other Names, Joined or Residence but they still appear in the infobox [01:34:59] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1075953473968947200/image.png [01:35:33] [discord] what's the general size wikipedia uses? if you know? [01:36:19] [discord] anywhere ranging from 180px-210px [01:36:34] [discord] depends on the image you use and comes down to preference [01:39:32] [discord] Also, how do I add modules to my wiki? the same way I'd import templates? [01:40:06] [discord] you can import them or copy/paste them [01:40:29] [discord] For example I get these errors sometimes [01:40:30] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1075954862073847868/image.png [01:40:43] [discord] yeah, that means that module needs to be created [01:41:05] [discord] How would I go about that? [01:41:43] [discord] I would personally go to Wikipedia's module and copy the code there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Module:Political_party/N and then create the same on your wiki [01:42:05] [discord] you can just view the source and obtain the code from there [01:42:48] [discord] afterwards, you can make additional changes to it like adding your own fictional parties [01:43:24] [discord] where would I start the copy from? [01:43:33] [discord] you're going to have to repeat this for the rest of the alphabet if you want the complete set of modules though since this is meant to load political party colors, abbreviations, and short name aliases [01:43:40] [discord] 1 -- Constant data used by [[Module:Political party]]? [01:43:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Political_party [01:43:41] [discord] [01:43:57] [discord] yes [01:43:58] [discord] 👀 [01:44:05] [discord] whole thing down to line 1173 [01:44:13] [discord] everything within the editor [01:45:09] [discord] it's gonna be a whack-a-mole for you since there's some other dependencies but if you're willing to follow the breadcrumbs of all the templates and modules required, it'll pay off [01:52:21] [discord] > it's gonna be a whack-a-mole for you since there's some other dependencies [01:52:21] [discord] Hmm? [01:53:21] [discord] just mean that there will be more modules like that that you may have to worry about further down the line [01:55:29] [discord] Would you know why labels are still showing up in my infobox when there is not value assigned to them? [03:45:44] [discord] Can somebody else using the Citizen skin verify that the font-variant property doesn't apply anymore? E.g. italic text is no longer slanted [03:52:56] [discord] can reproduce [03:55:56] [discord] Bug report it is [03:58:46] [discord] Oh ha, I mixed up the properties but either way front-variant and font-style aren't applying [04:36:24] [discord] When I put in an infobox onto a page it creates this space in between the title of the page and the text is there anyway to fix this? [04:36:24] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1075999133221015592/image.png [05:15:58] [discord] must be stray new line in the template before or after infobox itself [05:16:18] [discord] on the page it's infobox, then text or opposite? [05:29:55] Hmmm [05:30:13] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/rHjbQpWT/image.png [05:30:23] Any ideas? [05:30:47] [discord] Firstly that skin is interesting, definitely a retro feel to it which is kind of cool [05:30:59] [discord] Let me fix Naleksuh, one second. [05:31:02] [discord] second, @SRE for this [05:31:14] @BWM This was the default skin used on Wikipedia prior to 2010 [05:31:25] [discord] hmm [05:31:29] I like this skin because it doesn't have the dropdown and up until 2018 you could use it on Fandom [05:31:31] [discord] it's sort of ugly compared to vector [05:31:38] [discord] but is nice in its own way [05:31:39] DONT TOUCH MY BABY [05:31:48] Monobook is great and no-one will tell me otherwise [05:31:50] [discord] some independent wikis still use it too [05:31:59] [discord] like Elvis Costello wiki, I believe [05:32:07] [discord] you can choose to use it if you like but i like the skins that are sort of flat [05:32:09] Audacity wiki uses it [05:33:27] @CosmicAlpha What specificially are you doing ? [05:33:33] [discord] Wait why is db121 locked? [05:33:35] Is there maintenance or just a Miraheze memoment [05:33:53] Is the db actually locked or did you just get that off my screenshot [05:33:54] [discord] It isn't in read only, it isn't a normal OOM on that server... [05:33:59] [discord] miraheze moment [05:34:05] I just did a block and I have the option to edit [05:34:10] [discord] Might be related to the cw* and mw* lockup earlier today [05:34:20] [discord] so like [05:34:23] [discord] are OOMs normal now lol [05:34:25] [discord] Or at least it shouldn't be in readonly, as db121 has not recently had mysql restarted... [05:34:28] Yup I can edit just fine [05:34:29] But not delete [05:34:33] [discord] how much money would it cost miraheze in theory to get better server solutions [05:34:39] [discord] too much [05:34:45] [discord] that's not the question right now though [05:34:48] [discord] Oh, this doesn't make sense... [05:34:52] [discord] i know its not [05:35:03] This isn't "server solutions" though, this is a software issue [05:35:06] So, that's not going to help [05:35:12] [discord] oh [05:35:24] I can't say much about why it's happening; no access [05:35:24] Just wait for CosmicAlpha to do black box shit [05:35:45] [discord] Is db101 locked? Can anyone make ManageWiki changes on any wiki? I can't think of why it is locked.... [05:35:52] [discord] going to check [05:36:11] Is dev wiki on db101? [05:36:21] [discord] nope [05:36:21] [discord] i cant [05:36:28] [discord] make any managewiki changes on my private wiki [05:36:30] [discord] @CosmicAlpha not able to [05:36:36] [discord] `[1d947e3d006ed3b57e53a363] 2023-02-17 05:36:22: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBReadOnlyError"` [05:36:40] [discord] DBReadOnly [05:36:54] [discord] this text is also prefixed before any html is loaded: [05:36:56] [discord] ``` [05:36:57] [discord] Changes have not been committed to the database! [05:36:58] [discord] ``` [05:37:02] [discord] seems db101, the global database went readonly, likely an OOM on the global database, this has never happened before as far as I know. [05:37:05] [discord] like its above doctype html [05:37:10] [discord] havent seen that one in a long time [05:37:16] [discord] or ever actually [05:37:18] [discord] phab task lol? [05:37:26] [discord] i'm not really sure what to add [05:37:39] [discord] "oh hey guys db101 OOMd, kind of an emergency" [05:37:41] [discord] no, I'll fix. [05:37:44] [discord] kk [05:37:58] [discord] how much would more memory and storage space cost [05:38:28] Why not donate and find out? [05:38:31] [discord] not sure why it matters as it's too much for us currently [05:38:52] [discord] Infinite money, infinite problems [05:38:59] [discord] true that [05:39:03] [discord] Should be fixed. [05:39:16] [discord] Naleksuh: any good resources for how to learn CSS/JS [05:39:23] [discord] from the absolute basis [05:39:32] [discord] checking [05:39:37] @BWM Depends on what specifically you're just trying to do with it [05:40:06] [discord] @BWM @Naleksuh: i *know* that to afford it someone has to donate [05:40:25] [discord] it seems fixed [05:40:30] [discord] just for wiki use Naleksuh [05:40:40] [discord] like CSS/JS stuff on-wiki [05:40:49] [discord] not the most intricate of intricacies [05:40:51] [discord] Yeah, I fixed db101, the issue should be fixed now. Sorry about that everyone... [05:41:00] [discord] CA worked their magic [05:41:08] [discord] `sudo reset db101` [05:41:42] mediawiki.org has a lot of documentation on mediawiki js [05:41:45] And you can try out code here : https://test.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js [05:42:20] [discord] CSS as well? [05:42:27] [discord] like if i wanted to design a page/template with it or something [05:42:35] [discord] and know how it all works [05:43:41] Oh I hate CSS [05:43:49] I am not a graphic designer D: [05:43:55] [discord] "css can kill you" lol [05:44:00] The only CSS I've ever used is dark mode which I just stole from musikanimal [05:45:07] [discord] any ideas? [05:45:16] [discord] you're a CSS/JS support volunteer lmapo [05:45:25] Am I, though? [05:45:32] I am a JS support volunteer [05:45:42] [discord] and I'm css lol [05:45:45] I don't remember signing up for anything related to CSS [05:45:55] @Legroom I think BrandonWM means because I'm an interface admin on Meta [05:45:57] [discord] well, I learned mostly via Russian HTML tutorials [05:45:58] But I've never used it to edit CSS [05:46:04] [discord] Naleksuh: meant Legroom lol [05:46:13] [discord] it's a Discord role haha [05:46:14] [discord] I have CSS/JS support role on discord [05:46:24] Oh did you use the reply button? [05:46:27] [discord] but yeah you're interface-admin on Meta so that too [05:46:29] I thought you were talking to me cause I was above [05:46:30] [discord] yes [05:46:36] [discord] i wish irc had replies [05:46:39] [discord] oh right the reply button doesn't work on IRC [05:46:42] [discord] would make everything 100% times easier [05:46:43] [discord] yeah it was the reply button [05:46:52] [discord] 100 times* [05:46:54] Discord didn't even have replies until 2021 [05:46:58] [discord] and an edit button would also be usual [05:47:01] [discord] *useful [05:47:02] [discord] W3C school seems to be decent in basics tutorials [05:47:07] [discord] i know [05:47:11] [discord] I miss before Discord had replies, when it was quote messages instead. [05:47:11] [discord] @RhinosF1 thoughts on adding a feature to the IRC relay so it can say when a reply was used? [05:47:18] [discord] I keep telling myself I shall learn JS buuuuut [05:47:19] [discord] discord takes years to develop good features lately [05:47:21] [discord] lazy [05:47:27] [discord] ohhh right [05:47:31] [discord] i mean you could press the quote button when someone says something stupid [05:47:35] [discord] so that they cant delete it [05:47:41] [discord] how did you learn CSS [05:47:44] [discord] There is no quote button now. [05:47:47] [discord] i know [05:47:49] [discord] it's gone [05:47:50] [discord] not anymore [05:47:57] [discord] but back in the day [05:47:58] @CosmicAlpha Have you had a chance to look at the extension I made? [05:48:00] [discord] you could do that [05:48:02] [discord] I miss it. I liked that better than replies. [05:48:08] [discord] ~~you still can do it with betterdiscord tho~~ [05:48:50] [discord] I just said lol, too much messages at once [05:48:50] [discord] I was skimming tru one of Russian HTML/CSS tutorial sites lol [05:48:52] [discord] in Eng, W3C school might work for you [05:48:53] [discord] Naleksuh: briefly. I'll try and jump on IRC in a bit and discuss it, but for now I have to go from both IRC and Discord. [05:49:09] [discord] oh i can try that [05:49:14] [discord] or w3schools or a random book at a library [05:49:16] [discord] did you know any CSS before that or no [05:49:25] [discord] i started w/ a random book at a library forgot which one [05:50:52] [discord] nah [05:50:52] [discord] I actually made a fan site from scratch for a contest, over 10 years ago [05:50:54] [discord] I started admining wikis in 2016 [05:50:58] [discord] I used to use BetterDiscord and it got my account suspended (after I foolishly admitted to using it somewhere) so I don't use it anymore. [05:50:59] [discord] [05:51:00] [discord] Anyway I am headed off for now. [05:51:09] [discord] a shame [05:51:15] [discord] if you admit to it just delete the messages [05:51:18] [discord] discord is a massive bureaucracy [05:51:38] [discord] (their trust & safety is) [05:51:40] [discord] good night ✨ [05:51:52] [discord] *someone* idk who *someone* signed up for discord when they were underage but turned 13 and kept the same account so they just *imply* that they *might* have edone it [05:51:59] [discord] nah [05:51:59] [discord] I actually made a fan site from scratch for a contest, over 10 years ago [05:52:00] [discord] I started admining wikis in 2016 [05:52:13] [discord] also *someone* idk who uses the donottrack plugin in betterdiscord [05:52:58] [discord] in school we studied some very basics of HTML, but the rest w/ CSS I got tru google [05:52:59] [discord] and *someone* evaded a ban in the genshin impact server but idk who they are [05:53:05] [discord] _Should_ you really want to learn JS tho [05:53:14] [discord] anyway thats off topic lmaov [05:54:38] [discord] I joke, JS has gotten a lot lot better [05:55:26] [discord] A necessity doing web stuff until wasm takes off [05:55:44] [discord] yea [05:55:55] [discord] sadly idk of any alternatives to js for most stuff [05:56:18] [discord] I was once asked at work do I know PHP, because in resume I said I know HTML/CSS lol [05:56:29] [discord] i know php [05:56:31] [discord] ofc I don't [05:56:35] [discord] lmao [05:56:36] [discord] rip [05:56:42] [discord] made some stuff in laravel [05:57:13] [discord] specifically a website that idk according to *someone* it *might* contain leaks for an *anime game* and btw heres a funny meme gen's shins impact [05:58:08] [discord] it's easier to learn such stuff on the run, like when you actually apply it somewhere at the same time, like either that contest project or wikis [05:58:08] [discord] when I learn prog lang just to know to get a certificate (1C, oh my fucking god) it's just - bad [05:58:54] [discord] I tried to learn some stuff by myself but I loose motivation way too quickly [06:00:47] [discord] This fixed one of the infoboxes but not another, though did decrease the size. It's the infobox then text [06:01:25] [discord] This is the spacing for this infobox [06:01:26] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1076020526771875850/image.png [06:06:14] [discord]