[00:00:09] <Naleksuh>	 Hello everyone
[00:00:21] <Naleksuh>	 Or as ApexAgunomu would say, "hi fuckers"
[00:15:42] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Puw8f2bizr19rwti
[00:16:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> See this conversation and the wikipedia page linked within it for more details on link coloring.
[00:34:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> hi! do magic words work within nested parser functions? i cant get it to work within a template for some reason
[00:34:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> 
[00:34:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> for example:
[00:34:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> ({{w|}} is shorthand for [[Wikipedia:]] if thats relevant info)
[00:34:22] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:w https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia:
[00:34:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> `| data13 =  {{#switch: {{lc:{{{script|}}}}}
[00:34:24] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23switch:Template:_%7b%7blc:%7b%7b%7bscript 
[00:34:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | latin
[00:34:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | {{w|latin}}
[00:34:26] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:w 
[00:34:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | latin alphabet 
[00:34:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | {{w|Latin alphabet}}
[00:34:29] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:w 
[00:34:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | {{w|latin alphabet|latin}} = {{w|Latin script|Latin}} ({{#replace:{{FULLPAGENAME}}| language|}} alphabet)
[00:34:30] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:w 
[00:34:32] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              | #default = {{{script|}}}
[00:34:32] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bscript 
[00:34:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>             }}`
[00:34:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> results in *Latin ({{#replace:Inkamian language| language|}} alphabet)* on a page titled "Inkamian language"
[00:34:34] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23replace:Template:Inkamian_language 
[00:34:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> ideally i'd like it to be displayed as *Latin (Inkamian alphabet)* if possible
[00:34:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/>
[00:34:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> also i for some reason cannot link my wiki using https 💀 conmapping.miraheze.org is the url
[00:46:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> @ls990 please </auth:1025443470388764714> to post links
[00:50:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> thanks so much!!
[00:51:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> np
[00:51:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Try replacing a few pipes in your code with {{!}} perhaps
[00:51:44] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:51:45] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/!?action=edit&redlink=1>
[00:52:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> like all the pipes after the initial lc parser function
[00:53:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> sure lemme see if that works
[00:57:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> not sure if i did it right but its not showing up anymore 💀😭
[00:57:50] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990> `| data13 =  {{#switch: {{lc:{{{script|}}}}}
[00:57:50] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23switch:Template:_%7b%7blc:%7b%7b%7bscript 
[00:57:52] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} latin
[00:57:52] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} {{w|latin}}
[00:57:53] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} latin alphabet 
[00:57:54] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} {{w|Latin alphabet}}
[00:57:56] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} {{w|latin alphabet|latin}} = {{w|Latin script|Latin}} ({{#replace:{{FULLPAGENAME}}| language| }}} alphabet)
[00:57:57] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>              {{!}} #default = {{{script|}}}
[00:57:58] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! 
[00:57:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <ls990>             }}`
[02:26:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> how do i change the fonts on my wiki?
[03:44:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> General instructions
[03:44:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> https://www.hostknox.com/knowledgebase/696/How-to-change-the-font-family-size-and-color-of-text-in-MediaWiki.html
[03:45:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> More details about CSS specifically, which is the backbone of customizing wikis:
[03:45:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> https://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp
[03:49:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> im stupid how do i input 
[03:49:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> element { font-family: "Josefin Sans"; }
[03:49:21] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> into my wiki?
[03:51:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Oh, so you need to know the specific HTML element you're trying to override fonts for.  The Body element would be sufficient if you're wanting EVERYTHING to change
[03:51:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Otherwise, the specific elements are covered a bit further down in that first link
[03:53:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> ah cool!
[03:53:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> so i just put that line of code into all my pages?
[03:56:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I recommend taking a moment to read that page from start to finish, it explains in pretty good detail.
[03:56:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Like we did earlier, this is gonna be a change to the MediaWiki:Common.css page
[03:56:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> ahh
[03:57:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> And then that change reflects back globally
[03:57:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> So no need to do per-page repeats
[03:59:57] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> oh my god i just started the ventor and monobook part and i am so confuse
[04:00:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Yeah, so different 'skins' (which are mega-customizations of the wiki interface) may have different elements and classes you can customize.
[04:01:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Vector and Monobook are the two most prevalent defaults, though Cosmos is a fairly popular skin here at Miraheze for ex-Fandom folks.
[04:06:04] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> so, like this?
[04:06:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077803436390744064/Screen_Shot_2023-02-21_at_8.05.48_PM.png
[04:31:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> uh it didnt do the right font-
[04:31:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077809736457654383/Screen_Shot_2023-02-21_at_8.30.35_PM.png
[04:32:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Your browser doesn't know what "Lato" is
[04:32:14] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> how do i teach it lato
[04:32:17] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> You have to add an @import statement with a link to the font
[04:32:35] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> mm
[04:32:43] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> so how would i do that
[04:33:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Before the body statement, add `@import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Lato&display=swap');`
[04:33:51] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> ah
[04:34:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> like so?
[04:34:38] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077810622219157576/Screen_Shot_2023-02-21_at_8.34.22_PM.png
[04:34:44] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Yes
[04:35:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> This is a big learning day, eh?  Glad you're able to get the answers you need, this mirrors my starting out as a wiki admin in a big way.
[04:35:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> so much learning
[04:36:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> One other thing I might advise:  when you know a question's going to need a lot more back-and-forth to solve, creating a post in the support channel helps keep things consolidated so you don't have to scroll back through general.
[04:36:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> ah
[04:36:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Though I commiserate with not knowing what you don't know yet about what's gonna be short vs long question
[04:41:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <-florgen-> ok made a forum thing
[04:41:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Well, I think you got what you probably needed for *this* question, but good practice either way. 🙂
[05:47:09] <Naleksuh>	 Agent : can you please proofread announcements before posting them
[05:47:12] <Naleksuh>	 `schedudled`
[05:47:21] <Naleksuh>	 One or two typos is normal but this happens almost every time you post
[05:51:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> and lo, the farm crashed because of bad schedudling
[05:54:03] <Naleksuh>	 ?
[05:54:09] <Naleksuh>	 Is that sarcastic
[05:54:36] <Naleksuh>	 Also might be because I was on a westbound flight but did the time on IRC just jump back for anyone else
[05:54:37] <Naleksuh>	 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Gg3PVw4K/image.png
[06:04:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> now?
[06:04:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> not for me
[06:04:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> Naleksuh: ^ (no replies i forgot so the above "not for me" was for the IRC thing)
[06:05:23] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> clearly seems like a timezone/local settings shift
[06:05:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> yep
[06:06:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> can stupid RfCs be closed immediately
[06:06:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> with rationale [[w:WP:SNOW]]
[06:06:25] <wm-bot>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SNOW
[06:06:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Wiki-Bot> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SNOW>
[06:07:53] <Naleksuh>	 According to dmehus no
[06:07:54] <Naleksuh>	 But probably
[06:08:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> @Reception123 thoughts as a steward? (others of course feel free to add 2c)
[06:08:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Brandon, if it's the one I'm thinking of that just opened, don't.
[06:08:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> i can't as a normal user
[06:09:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> Meta:UCP doesn't permit that
[06:09:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> but a steward can
[06:09:30] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> it's 1-5 currently with the 1 being the proposer
[06:09:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Reception123> Yes they can be if they are "out-of-scope, malformed, or if it is clear that there is no chance of consensus"
[06:09:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Reception123> In this case the latter would apply but I would wait at least another day before determining that there is no chance of consensus
[06:09:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> oh huh
[06:10:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <raidarr> it's probably the latter but I would leave it to someone else and give it a bit yes
[06:10:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> i wouldn't regardless as i'm involved (i've voted)
[06:10:14] <Naleksuh>	 It has always been my view that user groups have no bearing on a user's ability to determine consensus
[06:10:14] <Naleksuh>	 But the rule is that only stewards can close RfCs with no exceptions
[06:10:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> to an extent yes?
[06:11:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Either way, no need to court controversy on a request that's only been open for like, 2-3 hours.
[06:11:28] <Naleksuh>	 To no extent
[06:11:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Except for the time traveler, Naleksuh. 🙂
[06:11:42] <Naleksuh>	 But maybe just because he wanted to close every single rfc XD
[06:14:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> well to be fair it's not much of a controversy
[06:14:13] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> everyone seems to agree
[06:14:18] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> but yeah
[06:14:28] <Naleksuh>	 Well, is it doing any harm?
[06:14:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> Naleksuh: who wanted to?
[06:14:33] <Naleksuh>	 dmehus
[06:14:37] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> ah
[06:14:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> well
[06:14:50] <Naleksuh>	 He would intentionally not vote just to close them (and the closes were really obvious on his opinion)
[06:14:55] <Naleksuh>	 Also he would revert any close that wasn't his
[06:15:07] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> not sure about part II....
[06:15:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> https://giphy.com/gifs/the-simpsons-stop-hes-already-dead-JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb
[06:15:41] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> :ThinkerMH:
[06:15:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> ^Me about this RfC in a few hours.  Good luck, overnight crew.  Time for sleeps. 🌙
[06:16:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> haha, goodnight NA
[06:18:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> gonna get some Zs myself, gnight everyone
[06:19:06] <Naleksuh>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Centralnotice-DbMaintenance2023-message&curid=61122&diff=316565&oldid=316521&diffmode=source
[06:19:15] <Naleksuh>	 1) Why is NotAracham's name here 2) Why is this a bot edit?
[06:19:37] <Naleksuh>	 I didn't really ask for credit for noticing this, but miscrediting it to someone else does annoy me for some reason
[06:20:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I'd raised it in an alternate channel earlier
[06:20:14] <Naleksuh>	 It was literally 5 minutes after I said that
[06:20:16] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Great minds think alike
[06:20:21] <Naleksuh>	 And why was it a bot edit?
[06:21:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Not that it especially matters, but I'd sent it over private chat about 15 min before you mentioned it in general.
[06:21:48] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> I'm guessing it's probably a bot edit because it was a change deployed from github or something.
[06:21:56] <Naleksuh>	 OK good to know
[06:22:18] <Naleksuh>	 I thought Agent put someone else's name because they were mad at me or something
[06:22:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Heh, well, glad I could put that mystery to rest. 🙂
[06:23:11] <Naleksuh>	 Is it though?
[06:23:40] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> we don't need to assume bad faith or that agent was mad at you or anything
[06:23:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> But I really should be going, gotta be up in 7ish hours to rail against the corporate overlords for their not-so-helpful demands after they laid folks off.
[06:23:53] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> not worth the time and energy to use over something like this
[06:24:06] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> get some rest, good luck
[06:24:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> :this:
[06:24:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> see ya
[06:58:16] <CosmicAlpha[m]>	 Goodnight
[09:55:10] <magicAho>	 wikiのロゴが上手く設定できません
[09:57:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> hmm?
[11:38:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Mizioł7> I see there will be maintenance moment, eh?
[11:39:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Mizioł7> Good to know! I'll have a time at Sunday in order to save everything for my backup copy! 🙂
[12:10:19] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <electricsheep> ``[2851119734b4ada3bff1a32c] 2023-02-22 12:09:55: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia\Rdbms\DBReadOnlyError"``
[12:10:20] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <electricsheep> DB is readonly again, it seems
[12:17:34] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Luca Trulyworth> And I was just about to save a major change to my stuff too... any ETA on a fix? It's 4:15 over here and I hope I'll be able to save and get some sleep before the sun rises.
[13:32:24] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <OatCookies> Goodnight!
[14:04:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Luca Trulyworth> In hindsight I probably should have taken a nap or something while I'm waiting for the fix anyway, but oh well.
[14:04:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> Is the error still present?
[14:04:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> The database server was restarted but I see someone saying on Phabricator that it's still an issue
[14:05:49] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Luca Trulyworth> Now it's saying I can't save because I'm logged out, but I can't log back in.
[14:06:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Luca Trulyworth> Same error code as above.
[14:07:08] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> @Site Reliability Engineering ^
[14:07:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> db121 seems to have OOM'd again?
[14:21:05] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <electricsheep> ``` Server API Error: {"code": "readonly", "info": "The wiki is currently in read-only mode.", "readonlyreason": "The primary database server is running in read-only mode."``` Yes the db is still readonly
[14:21:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <jope> Is there a maintenance currently?
[14:23:31] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Helix Crowley> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077958826252308561/image.png
[14:25:02] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Agent> We're aware. A database server restarted and whenever that happens, it starts up in read only mode just to be safe
[14:53:28] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <paladox> Fixed
[14:53:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Helix Crowley> yup, ty!
[14:55:09] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Luca Trulyworth> thank you, thank you, thank you x1000. I'm going to hit save and then immediately fall asleep on my keyboard.
[15:03:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gautier> It may have been asked before, but how do you make polls work in Flow? I created a model to see, on the model everything works fine but dqns Flow is completely transformed
[15:03:33] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gautier> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077968897522815076/image0.jpg
[15:04:15] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gautier> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1077969073608081489/image0.jpg
[15:04:25] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gautier> (the template)
[15:07:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Gautier> I tried with another skin, and it doesn't change anything
[16:06:47] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> is FuzzyBot still used?
[16:08:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> @NotAracham if they know ^
[16:08:26] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <NotAracham> Not familiar with this
[16:09:22] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> hear that it was used for assistance in translations?
[16:09:29] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> though I haven't seen anything done by it in a while
[16:10:11] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> oh yes it is still used, never mind
[16:19:36] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> Phabricator currently offline it seems
[16:19:54] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> `phab121` out of space
[16:23:56] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> @BWM , re your logouts
[16:23:58] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <Legroom> does it happen on all wikis for you or only couple of them?
[16:24:39] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> `brandonwmwiki`, `testwiki`, and `metawiki` so far have logged me out, `commonswiki` and `devwiki` too
[16:24:55] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> but those are the only wikis i frequently visit
[17:42:10] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> db112 is, not phab121.
[17:44:12] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <CosmicAlpha> @Orduin are you available to look maybe, since Phabricator is still offline? I have to go.
[17:56:46] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <BWM> oh huh, grafana said phab121, though i was probably reading it wrong
[23:07:59] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <kevin 💚💜> So, our wiki has Reference Previews enabled via Extension:Popups. However, there are many pages that aren't rendering their previews properly, so we'd like to keep this as a beta opt-in only feature until we get those fixed by setting `$wgPopupsReferencePreviewsBetaFeature = true;`. However, recently, we've discovered that  *anonymous users* are able to see the Reference Previews. I'm wondering if this is something
[23:08:00] <mhbridgebot>	 [discord] <kevin 💚💜> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1078090811515867176/image.png