[00:07:35] [discord] hey Agent. [00:08:15] [discord] can we talk in the Fanon Page of Polandball Server? there's something I would like to ask you. [00:15:56] [discord] I guess I'm missing some context, is there a reason for this? [00:16:07] [discord] But thanks [00:25:03] [discord] There is, but it is not public knowledge at this time. That being said, there's also no indication that this was a serious matter. [00:29:42] [discord] can anyone help me w the module: we've been trying for days to get it to work, I think it's corrupted [00:33:31] [discord] maybe @paladox ? idk I'm getting desperate lol [00:34:13] [discord] I'd suggest maybe pulling from the equivalent pages that exist on dev.miraheze.org instead? Troubleshooting wikipedia dependencies can be a nightmare. [00:41:03] [discord] Paladox specalizes in infrastucture, servers, etc. [00:41:19] [discord] He probably doesn't have time to respond to these sorts of requests for help [00:41:28] [discord] What exactly is the issue? [00:41:32] [discord] Did you get it off Wikipedia? [00:41:36] [discord] Did you export it via Special:Export [00:45:40] [discord] I copied the modules' codes for documentation and the modules' that it runs off of [00:45:47] [discord] yup [00:47:23] [discord] Wikipedia templates are *very* complex [00:47:29] [discord] the code you see is just the tip of the iceberg [00:48:01] [discord] Your current problem is that your Module:Uses_TemplateStyles code on your wiki is actually the Template:Uses_TemplateStyles code from en wikipedia [00:48:07] [discord] So it looks like you did a mis-copy there [00:48:24] [discord] It's not corrupted, it just has days on days of dependencies [00:48:44] [discord] Source: the 3000 GD modules and templates I attempted to import on my first wiki [00:50:42] [discord] Alright, looks like that's fixed now. [01:13:49] [discord] @NotAracham so Module:Documentation is fixed now? [01:15:06] [discord] I'm not sure what problems you're seeing, but I'm no longer seeing errors after fixing the mis-paste of code for the Uses TemplateStyles module [01:15:47] [discord] ok thanks [01:20:13] [discord] this is what I'm talking abt @NotAracham [01:20:13] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1080298413129740350/Screenshot_2023-02-28_8.19.51_PM.png [01:24:43] heyo- is anyone around? [01:24:58] i can't see my image files, now that the name is changed? what should i do? [01:25:07] or is this being worked on? unsure [01:25:48] [discord] what is your wiki's url? [01:25:59] [discord] @Site Reliability Engineers may be a problem with a wiki [01:26:11] https://videocreditarchive.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:26:16] here's the link [01:26:57] [discord] i see [01:27:11] [discord] site reliability engineering will probably look into the broken images soon [01:27:19] [discord] i apologize for the inconvenience [01:27:23] how long should i wait before bugging them again? [01:27:29] you apologize? you work for them? [01:27:36] [discord] no [01:27:37] [discord] i dont [01:27:41] oh [01:27:50] well even so, how long should i wait before bothering them again? [01:27:58] [discord] im not sure, a few of the developers are online [01:28:05] [discord] but it may take some time for them to respond [01:28:46] [discord] usually this shouldnt take too long to fix [01:28:50] like in how many days should i wait at most [01:29:23] [discord] at most a day, it shouldn't take that long though [01:29:25] [discord] To confirm, you recently got your dbname/subdomain changed for your wiki and now you can't see images [01:29:27] [discord] ? [01:29:31] yep [01:29:47] [discord] https://static.miraheze.org/videocreditarchivewiki/thumb/9/9f/Crusherjoethemovie_jpncast.jpg/56px-Crusherjoethemovie_jpncast.jpg [01:29:53] [discord] yeah most of the images are unauthorized errors [01:29:55] [discord] that's new [01:29:58] urgh [01:30:01] [discord] or at least i haven't seen that before [01:30:05] [discord] Alright. Hopefully that's something that a member of the @Site Reliability Engineers team can look into soon. [01:30:05] how do i or does anyone fix that [01:30:19] aye, Aracham, how long should i wait before pestering yall again [01:30:23] [discord] The wiki is marked as public, correct? [01:30:30] yeah [01:30:34] [discord] one of the site reliability engineering volunteers will need to come online and take a look at possible server-side issues [01:30:41] [discord] iirc this happens sometimes and i don't remember what causes it [01:30:51] [discord] If the phabricator task is marked as resolved, re-open it with a comment about the files [01:31:17] [discord] Or if you have a separate new task created, that works as well [01:32:02] yeah i made a new task [01:32:37] [discord] Just be sure to link to the wiki on the task so no one gets confused about the topic [01:33:06] [discord] @xana7 alright got it, should be fixed soon then [01:33:13] o7 [01:33:28] i'll put the wiki link in the task, one sec [01:33:38] [discord] what abt me @Colleiflower it's still saying there's a problem with documentation [01:33:46] [discord] can you link to the broken page [01:35:13] who do you want to link to you Collei? [01:35:16] me or Nightmare [01:35:41] [discord] nightmare [01:35:43] ah [01:35:44] [discord] not you [01:35:49] [discord] sorry about the confusion lol [01:35:53] is okay [01:36:01] [discord] alright got it [01:36:15] [discord] your wiki should be fixed soon once someone checks the phabricator task [01:36:20] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10561 anyway, here's the link to the phabricator task [01:36:25] and hecc yee thank you [01:36:30] i'll check back tomorrow mornin' [01:36:38] i'm in UTC-5 [01:36:43] peace! [01:36:49] [discord] alright got it [01:36:55] [discord] cya have a good day/night [01:52:31] [discord] https://chesapeakerp.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Documentation [01:52:32] [discord] https://chesapeakerp.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Country_data_Dixie [01:56:30] [discord] Uff, it's a shame that the project is still stuck in the lurch like this. With your permission, I can overwrite with pages from one of my wikis where I did successfully get this set up later this evening. If it doesn't work, no worries, you can revert all my edits. [01:57:21] [discord] YES YOU HAVE MY PERMISSION!!! at this point, I'm desperate @NotAracham [02:52:14] [discord] Fixed [02:52:37] [discord] Thanks so much!!!!!! [02:53:38] [discord] You have no idea how happy this has made me @NotAracham [02:54:07] [discord] Absolutely, let me know if you see any other oddities. It looks like some of the code may rely on the translate extension, so you *might* need to enable it if you're seeing any stray or tags [03:02:41] [discord] RfC: Global interface administrators :thonk: [03:02:50] [discord] Whut [03:03:24] [discord] to let more users help with cases like this in importing things, changing content models, fixing CSS/JS, etc [03:03:36] [discord] I was about to go to bed, but now I'm intrigued [03:03:46] [discord] https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-Ph5ELYJov9n5oHzVHZ [03:04:26] [discord] A fun idea in concept, but... yeah, that'd require intense levels of trust to grant. [03:04:45] [discord] Possible requirements: 5,000 edits and 6 months [03:04:50] [discord] Because that access in the wrong hands could absolutely wreck projects. [03:05:59] [discord] I meet those requirements and I'm not sure I'd grant me those rights. 🙃 [03:06:35] [discord] Well, arguably you can cause less damage than importing can by just having CSS/JS access lol [03:07:14] [discord] It seems WMF has a similar group but it's appointed by Stewards (who take into consideration community comments) [03:07:23] [discord] versus our direct democracy approach [03:07:48] [discord] and it also expires by default after a year? :hyperthonk: [03:07:59] [discord] Interesting [03:08:13] [discord] There was an initiative to make all js matters an affair for global interface admins in the name of security [03:08:21] [discord] I thought that was doug's idea but I'm fuzzy [03:11:27] [discord] Doesn’t that sound pretty similar to fandoms code review [03:11:57] [discord] No, that's basically preventing JS from taking effect until someone reviews it [03:13:24] [discord] Sounds like a very *bad* idea with the current number of volunteers, the amount of people changing JS/CSS, our volunteers could not handle it. [03:13:39] [discord] yeah, we probably couldn't handle that [03:13:47] [discord] or actually, we definitely cannot at all [03:13:58] [discord] I was never fond of it myself, I just know it was an idea at one point [03:14:28] [discord] The only person currently active in this channel who can probably read JS properly is CosmicAlpha lol [03:15:17] [discord] Read at a CS major dropout level? I can do that. Write it fluently? Absolutely not. [03:15:53] [discord] I don't think so. Seems like a lot here help with JS/CSS. [03:16:46] [discord] There is a difference in helping with writing some JS where you can trial and error, and then reviewing it to be safe to run [03:17:09] [discord] I guess that's true. [03:18:48] [discord] Great! I'll be introducing an RfC to mandate JS code review globally \:P [03:19:15] [discord] but in all seriousness, maybe a global interface admin group may be helpful [03:19:57] [discord] Global JS review is very annoying [03:20:12] [discord] When mw adds the ts transpiler in 50 years I’ll volunteer to review ts [03:20:57] [discord] I like TS a lot... it is nicer for a lot of things. [03:36:01] [discord] Yup it’s way better than js so I’ll gladly read it [04:07:20] [discord] CoffeeScript can be kinda neat too. It is basically a more simplified JS. [04:33:45] [discord] just looking through the examples it feels bit like python and ruby in some parts [04:36:57] [discord] Hey, I like those two languages also, but I don't think CS is like that, at least not to me. CS and TS both compile to JS in the end anyway though, but can be faster, and nicer code from a dev perspective. [04:40:33] [discord] I just spent an hour on something, and only now realised I was using the syntax from the wrong language... [04:41:26] [discord] oh I didn't mean to make it sound like a bad thing. just my perspective looking from the outside in [04:41:43] [discord] It might, in some ways. [04:41:50] [discord] Not a bad thing. [05:12:31] [discord] what's ts? [05:17:10] [discord] typescript [05:54:57] [discord] Maybe only templates and modules? [05:55:22] [discord] Ye [05:56:44] [discord] Yes [06:01:15] [discord] I disagree with a global interface admin group. It creates more bureaucracy, and also if it does exist, it should be Steward appointed, like Meta interface admin is appointment by Meta Bureaucrats, it should be appointed by Stewards due to its nature. [06:01:35] [discord] I agree re: appointed [06:02:44] [discord] Global interface admin won't replace or make any new bureaucratic processes, it'll just be a group to allow volunteers who want to help in CSS/JS matters to help without needing to apply for unnecessary packages like GS (it's outside of its scope anyway) or Steward [06:04:02] [discord] I realise that now, I thought you meant to not let admins have their own rights to manage it, I read again.... But still, it should be appointed. [06:04:09] [discord] oh heh [06:04:11] [discord] yeah [06:04:16] [discord] I agree though with it being appointed [06:05:20] [discord] I'm not feeling to good tonight. I'm gonna head to sleeo early now. [06:05:24] [discord] Night [06:05:33] [discord] Hope you feel better [06:05:41] [discord] Thanks! [06:05:47] [discord] And night! [06:30:36] Why does global flooders exist? [06:30:41] This is global autopatrolled but worse [06:31:14] [discord] it's for MediaWiki scripts like the maintenance script which has the habit of flooding and backlogging the RC [06:31:37] Yes but then the page goes on to exist it can be granted to people [06:31:52] So basically just another way to not only override the autonomy of local communities, but to do so secretly [06:31:56] [discord] it's never been granted to a non-Steward/T&S [06:32:01] [discord] it can but never has [06:32:26] It should never be granted to anyone *including* Steward/T&S [06:32:32] [discord] technically, I think Doug has been the only one to actually assign it to a non-bot, to himself as a T&S member [06:36:07] [discord] I will teach you how to earn $50k in just 72hours from the crypto market…if you’re interested message me on WhatsApp on how to start earning…+1 (585) 202‑3162 [06:44:12] [discord] Agent, I noticed strange behaviour on help navigation - the FAQ link itself works fine but on Backups page it's not clickable [06:44:39] [discord] I think I know why [06:44:49] [discord] idk if it's the only case or there others [06:44:51] [discord] the header thinks that the Backups page is the FAQ page [06:45:07] [discord] that's sort of on purpose-ish [06:45:11] [discord] but not really [06:45:14] [discord] I'll fix it though [06:46:36] [discord] should work now [06:50:10] [discord] yee [07:35:16] [discord] what's TSPortal? don't seem to find proper page [07:36:27] [discord] translating Backups and there is "reports (TSPortal)" [07:36:56] [discord] "report" has several meanings too, which exactly is there? [07:37:18] reports.miraheze.org [07:37:32] It’s a portal for reporting issues to trust & safety [07:37:47] The software behind it is called TSPortal and made by Owen [07:51:11] [discord] > Itâ€™s [07:51:12] [discord] this is always what `It's` looks like on discord [07:51:20] [discord] if a message is bridged from irc [07:51:27] [discord] not sure what's happening there [07:52:35] we know [07:52:40] It’s an encoding issue [07:54:24] [discord] ah i see [10:20:33] [discord] I just realized that updates of policies erased my translations from August lol [10:28:07] [discord] Article counts broken on a bunch of sites. Or at least was until a few hrs ago [11:21:16] [discord] Mirahezr [11:21:22] [discord] Miraheze [15:14:24] [discord] hey there, I'm getting this message on an article and I'm not sure why: [15:14:25] [discord] "Script error: No such module "Infobox television disambiguation check". [15:14:27] [discord] Thanks in advance for any help! [15:46:38] [discord] Looks like you're missing a module [17:22:49] [discord] follow the process outlined in # [17:23:07] [discord] thankyou! [17:23:11] [discord] np [19:59:01] [discord] @Agent [20:00:49] [discord] Can you come look at what I said on the fanon page of the Polandball serverz [23:12:42] [discord] I'm currently trying to learn how to cite "professionally" in my wiki. So I tried to use the template explained at Wikipedia (Web source {{Internetquelle |url=....}}) but the template wizard didn't load the parameters. So I saved that text as a Template-Site. And when I used that it still appears as "Web source" ("Internetquelle") and not as I named it. Then I clicked on that linked "Vorlage:Internetquelle" (Templa [23:12:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Internetquelle_ [23:15:44] [discord] heh me with most programming languages :p [23:16:48] [discord] i can repro a few things in languages that i read but can't do much without a reference [23:18:50] [discord] I was thinking about creating a wiki for community news regarding Miraheze [23:19:12] [discord] Does anyone have interest in contributing or any suggestions on what to add to it [23:19:37] [discord] i mean i have interest [23:19:50] [discord] i dont have much to do 😆 [23:20:31] [discord] i probably could contribute [23:55:33] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Hi I would like to speak to Agent Isai if he isn't busy. [23:55:41] [discord] You don't have to ask [23:55:43] [discord] lol [23:55:48] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Oh lol [23:56:11] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Whenever you are ready, I wanna place my stuff in dreamlogos.miraheze.com [23:56:47] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> I just made my first edit there [23:58:26] [discord] I'll look into that later [23:58:33] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Ok [23:58:36] [discord] ~~also we use miraheze.org, not .com~~ [23:58:49] [discord] I'll have to ask the local admins if it's okay to import the pages [23:58:49] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Oh my bad [23:58:58] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Alright [23:59:00] [discord] they'll probably say yes but it's just to good to check in [23:59:05] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Ok [23:59:08] [discord] <𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖑𝖎e> Have a good evening