[00:10:40] [discord] It’s workload you wouldn’t otherwise have — is that not extra? 😉 [01:07:06] [discord] didn't seem to be any particular workload involved with fiscal years [01:07:13] [discord] at least as miraheze is concerned [01:07:31] [discord] and not anytime too quickly at any rate [02:02:50] [discord] discord manager speedrun [02:02:50] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1081396302492991578/image.png [02:04:55] [discord] Yeah, it's been a rough Friday for NDK. [02:06:56] [discord] yikes, getting banned on discord sucks [02:07:16] [discord] ban discord back [02:08:01] [discord] did he use a courvix email or something cuz those emails have been hit as part of a banwave for the past few weeks [02:08:31] [discord] ~~thank god i didnt use courvix for discord~~ [02:14:15] [discord] huh just got logged out again [02:27:46] [discord] The Courvix Discord server went crazy a couple weeks ago, and everyone who was using their email had messages being flagged as spam... it was kinda fun to just watch. I left the server a couple weeks ago so I didn't get banned, as I was just afraid I would lol. [02:28:44] [discord] after that stuff happened, i got interested in courvix and im actually using one of their emails right now [02:29:22] [discord] their vpn is still down it seems :p [02:34:24] [discord] Apparently Discord has banned hundreds of thosands of users, from Yahoo, and Courvix, as well as inactive accounts, and accounts where the email doesn't resolve, which means they likely checked every email records. It was some sort of mass decision by Discord, and no automated process. Though almost everyone who appeals gets their account back it seems. [02:35:04] [discord] i mean courvix i can sort of understand, but yahoo is crazy [02:35:27] [discord] at least appeals are an open option [02:35:54] * mhbridgebot [discord] reminds me of when roblox banned anyone who had yt at the end of their names [02:37:25] [discord] They apparently banned a total of over 80,000,000 (80 million) accounts [02:37:32] [discord] yikes [02:37:46] [discord] I wouldn't be surprised if Discord was sitting on countless dead accounts, that part would make some sense [02:37:51] [discord] however killing yahoo is a big wut [02:39:37] [discord] discord will soon announce that yahoo emails require a nitro subscription [02:39:54] [discord] Yeah... Discord T&S made this choice, and it was probably a huge mistake, millions of legitimate users who did nothing wrong got banned, meaning appealing now could take months (or even years) just to get a response. [02:40:13] [discord] new nitro perk: avoid being banned for doing literally nothing/wrong [02:40:39] [discord] they are gonna have a field day with all of those emails [02:40:41] [discord] a shame so many communities I'm interested in are glued to discord [02:40:52] [discord] They also banned everyone who was eben in about 80,000 servers. [02:41:32] [discord] part of why my use of discord is rather limited as it is [02:41:42] [discord] discord either makes a new feature locked by a nitro paywall, or they do random stuff like this :p [02:41:43] [discord] at least compared to what it used to be [02:41:55] [discord] avoiding random stuff like this is the new feature in the paywall [02:42:04] [discord] > Apparently Discord has banned hundreds of thosands of users, from Yahoo, and Courvix, as well as inactive accounts, and accounts where the email doesn't resolve, which means they likely checked every email records. It was some sort of mass decision by Discord, and no automated process. Though almost everyone who appeals gets their account back it seems. [02:42:04] [discord] @CosmicAlpha that is a horrible privacy violation [02:42:06] [discord] until something new random happens [02:42:10] [discord] you know i know how to solve their spambot problem [02:42:12] [discord] read reports [02:42:19] [discord] ive been in so many nitro scam servers for MONTHS [02:42:34] [discord] they never seem to deal with the actual spam I end up running into, but oh well [02:42:36] [discord] i wrote a detailed ticket to discord connecting like 10 different scam servers that were using self-bots [02:42:38] [discord] I'm in the max number of servers on Discord, I am kinda luckly I didn't get banned lol. [02:42:52] [discord] and only 1 or 2 got shut down [02:43:04] [discord] one of my alts had like 50 messages about "yo want free nitro" or some random stuff like that where all you had to do was connect your account to an integration [02:43:36] [discord] (which if you didnt know, part of discord, but has a feature where it can join servers for you, so scam servers like those take advantage of that) [02:44:27] [discord] It's insane... [02:44:43] [discord] Yahoo is extremely surprising. [02:44:49] [discord] Yahoo is very surprising [02:44:53] [discord] But that's Discord for you. [02:45:13] [discord] i found that one of those integrations was redirecting back to an IP address [02:45:14] [discord] I'd make a pun but it's rather dumb [02:45:16] [discord] so i [02:45:18] [discord] found the hosting provider [02:45:20] [discord] and sent an abuse report [02:45:33] [discord] never got a response but if im lucky maybe the scammer got their hosting suspended :D [02:45:38] [discord] hit or miss [02:45:41] [discord] yea [02:46:04] [discord] i was considering for a moment trying to flood the IP with garbage traffic so that it would run out of memory but on second thought that's probably illegal so i didnt [02:46:09] [discord] There is no point of sending reports. They never read them, then nuke entire email domains because it caught up with them. [02:46:36] [discord] i send reports to discord where possible but it seems like wasted effort [02:46:41] [discord] they just have this terrible process [02:46:41] [discord] yeah thats illegal [02:46:43] [discord] unless of course you happen to have connections [02:46:46] [discord] around ~10% of reported things get banned [02:46:55] [discord] 10% is rather generous [02:46:59] [discord] yeah lmao [02:47:04] [discord] though I will say once in a while I've had decent experiences with them, but I assume there's too much crap and too few people looking [02:47:18] [discord] > yeah thats illegal [02:47:19] [discord] @Meteor trying to imagine a collei in prison [02:47:20] [discord] would be sad [02:47:25] [discord] dont know if miraheze could cope with it /j [02:47:34] [discord] but yea i wouldnt do anything blatantly illegal [02:47:48] [discord] with the amount of people and servers on discord, i would say ~3% [02:48:01] [discord] they do sometimes deal with reports [02:48:15] [discord] but then again the last time i sent a report was 2020 [02:48:21] [discord] Yeah, counter-attacks, even with good intent, are an illegal act in a lot of contries. [02:48:52] [discord] And even when not, it will def put you at risk of not-so-good service outcomes. [02:49:09] [discord] yea makes sense [04:02:39] [discord] how many is the max? [04:05:08] [discord] 200 [04:06:09] [discord] (with nitro) [04:06:15] [discord] yeah [04:06:26] [discord] I forgot about that lol [04:06:50] [discord] That I could only join 200 because of Nitro. [04:06:55] [discord] It's 100 max otherwise [04:07:04] [discord] Though you stay in extra servers when nitro expires also. [04:07:21] [discord] It be kinda rude to kick you out of half the servers at random [04:07:51] [discord] True, although I’d understand if they did. [04:09:17] [discord] Speaking if Discord, the OpenAI server is now the first ever to reach 3,000,000 members it seems. [04:10:19] [discord] Miraheze next 😉 [04:13:26] [discord] Actually I take that back lol, OpenAI is only the second largest server. [04:14:53] [discord] Midjourney is the most popular server. With more than 9.5 million members, the within a month OpenAI has gained 2,000,000 members, so only a matter of time before it surpasses it. [04:16:05] [discord] I still remember when the Roblox server was #1 [04:16:18] [discord] Now #6 [04:16:48] [discord] Is there a Discord server? [04:17:01] [discord] (For discord that is, if that makes sense) [04:18:41] [discord] yes [04:18:44] [discord] discord town hall [04:18:49] [discord] but its only active during snowsgiving [04:19:05] [discord] theres also some of their servers like bug hunting, bot dev, etc [04:19:15] [discord] I bet Discord uses Slack for their internal comms 😎 [04:19:23] [discord] probably [04:19:23] [discord] lmao [04:21:31] [discord] There is Discord Developers, Discord Testers (which is now closed, and I was in it till they closed it and kicked everyone) and Discord Town Hall also. [04:26:28] [discord] No it isn't, it is always active? [04:27:08] [discord] oh [04:27:14] [discord] i mean the public chat channel [04:27:48] [discord] I am in it right now, people talk in it. [04:29:01] [discord] oh [04:29:03] [discord] oops [04:29:04] [discord] i see [04:34:07] [discord] @Colleiflower snowsgiving is a whole different Discord server [04:35:19] [discord] makes sense [04:36:56] [discord] Town Hall is actually pretty cool, I was in it a while ago, but rejoined today (after leaving some random other server lol) I will probably stay this time, as I like the server. [04:43:55] [discord] kk [05:11:03] [discord] https://inext.miraheze.org/wiki/iNext_Wiki:Policies does these policies look good [06:26:12] [discord] What does it mean lol? [06:26:27] [discord] hmm? [06:26:48] [discord] it's the town hall discord server [06:29:00] [discord] I wanted to ask because the word **lol** has no meaning in the country I live in. [06:30:18] [discord] It is shorthand for 'laugh out loud', a stand-in for laughter in online text. [06:30:39] [discord] Oh yeah, it is just internet slang. [06:32:38] [discord] Hm, okey. Thank you NotAracham. [06:33:05] [discord] oh @Adenin Konas, a lot of people use `lol` and `lmao` as filler even when something isnt that funny [06:33:15] [discord] yep. [06:35:16] [discord] okey. [08:18:39] [discord] Hey, can anyone help me? I found a cool font when I was making a sheet on google sheets, can I use it on my wiki? If so - how? [08:21:53] [discord] sorry if wrong channel [08:39:47] [discord] you can try to find it in google fonts and import to your wiki, but it must be free fonr [08:40:49] [discord] idk how bought fonts work w/ import [08:41:49] [discord] you can upload font file on wiki and use it too, but it must either free or 100% brought, "pirated" things can put your wiki in copyright conflict [08:42:15] [discord] you can download it for free from Google Fonts so I think it's going to be ok [08:42:27] [discord] CSS import is easier then [08:42:48] [discord] on right panel there's import cide you should put in Common.css of your wiki [08:43:34] [discord] you won't have download/upload, ot just takes font directly from google [08:43:38] [discord] ah yes, I see it [08:45:00] [discord] bear in mind that imports should be at the top of CSS page, or it won't work [08:45:52] [discord] got it [08:45:56] [discord] thanks [08:51:36] [discord] The font haven't changed, I don't really know what to do now :ThinkerMH: [08:54:14] [discord] also tried to upload font to use url instead, but it says "File extension ".ttf" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (font/sfnt)." :ThinkerMH: [09:09:25] [discord] That’s known. A fix has been proposed for over a year. [09:09:27] [discord] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/core/+/763978 [09:20:08] [discord] purged cash? [09:20:51] [discord] cash? [09:23:15] [discord] Do you mean cache? [09:23:52] [discord] Well I am going for the night. [09:28:01] [discord] It might be because I'm an idiot and I don't really know what to do to change fonts :EpicFaceMH: [09:36:20] [discord] okay, I figured it out, my friend told me that I have to change some other things too :nomChocoStrawberry: [09:41:37] [discord] hello! could someone help me in a problem? how can i put two photos aligned in this way? [09:41:41] [discord] in a tabel [09:42:04] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1081511871934373969/Screenshot_2023-03-04_alle_10.41.52.png [09:42:38] [discord] im putting some px values but i was wondering if there is a better way to do it [09:46:21] [discord] ?? [09:49:15] [discord] where exactly you used px? [09:49:17] [discord] what's bothering you, width or padding or? [09:56:56] [discord] in the modify page [09:58:01] [discord] for example, i wanted to these two pictures to be aligned like in the previous pic, but i dont know how to do it [09:58:02] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1081515884868284447/Screenshot_2023-03-04_alle_10.57.19.png [09:58:22] [discord] i tried to mess with the px in the page code but i ended up always in this result [10:07:29] [discord] I suggest you to make two cells for each image instead of one, and in case if you got only one you can make one cells w/ `colspan=2` [10:08:45] [discord] also by where exactly I mean the code, in the table, in the image construction, etc [10:12:04] [discord] ok, so i make two cells and then merge them together in that way? [10:19:34] [discord] **one image in one cell**, so you always will get that horizontal format you wanted w/ two images. [10:19:34] [discord] merging into one is just in case, a possibility, doing it just like that, w/ two images, will have the same "vertical" outcome. [10:19:35] [discord] images are just no fun to format, especially in tables [10:20:05] [discord] header, if there's any, will require merging tho [10:20:32] [discord] `!colspan=2 !Header title` [14:08:38] Hello Orange_Star! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [14:08:48] thanks bot [14:08:56] it's not like I'm a regular in this channel [14:09:49] Orange_Star: it's back from an outage [14:09:54] i'm surprised it worked [14:10:39] it's using the old db [14:10:49] does the bot just say that to everyone that joins or does it remember who joined this channel before? [14:10:56] Orange_Star: it remembers it [14:11:09] i will restore its memory later [14:11:37] making sure it's website isn't being attacked first [14:12:14] * RhinosF1 deployed some firewall rules [14:14:30] it'll be back to full by tomorrow [14:44:23] Orange_Star: hopefully fixed [15:01:28] [discord] Goodnight! [17:03:42] [discord] is there an existing extension which will add "Create new page" button (like on Cosmos) in sidebar, no matter the skin? [17:25:41] [discord] https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/wiki/User_talk:Bukkit mariobobfan is appealing his meta block on my talk page? [17:25:42] [url] User talk:Bukkit - Amazing YouTubers Wiki | amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org [17:29:46] Raidarr brought it up at the Meta admin noticeboard: https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard&curid=661&diff=319248&oldid=318634&diffmode=source [17:29:47] [url] Meta:Administrators' noticeboard: Difference between revisions - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [17:34:50] [discord] He appealed via email, the answer is no [17:36:34] top ten miraheze sad moments [17:36:49] [discord] lol [17:37:02] [discord] the fact that bukkit isn't even an admin on meta is further evidence that mbf knows nothing [17:39:31] [discord] He already appealed on my avidwiki talk page, to stewards@, to cvt@ and now on AYW [17:42:54] [discord] yeah, any further content about it can be deleted/closed on sight then [18:06:32] [discord] the block appeal was rather lame [18:06:43] [discord] i've been banned places before and he needs to start questioning why he wants to appeal [18:07:25] [discord] dont appeal just so that you can go to a community you have no need to participate in [18:09:32] [discord] the day he learns that is the day his appeal can be considered [18:09:39] [discord] as of now he brings, and realistically would bring nothing [18:09:49] [discord] yes [18:39:04] @Meteor Are you Bukkit? [18:39:36] You are the one who is impossible to know who I am talking to because you have a different name everywhere [18:39:55] Didn't your signature also used to say "Justin Aves" and have no mention of Bukkit anywhere? [18:47:26] It says Bukkit on discord [18:47:39] It’s simply how the relay is setup [18:47:57] It used the username not server nick [18:49:19] [discord] not always an ideal setup given how discord works [18:49:27] [discord] perhaps nickname in brackets would help [18:59:05] We can change it to nickname [18:59:19] [discord] It’s up to @Moderators though [18:59:36] [discord] well, it's a bit of a semantic choice irc side [19:00:15] [discord] it does seem there's a convergence issue since discord moderators can't necessarily moderate something happening on the irc side, or can they [19:00:37] they can always ban the bridge :) [19:00:37] [discord] Moderators should be fairly similar on both sides [19:00:45] [discord] Worth clarifying, for sure. It's asymmetric at the moment. [19:00:51] [discord] not similar enough [19:00:54] [discord] MHBot is working too now [19:01:30] [discord] We don’t make changes without moderator approval on both sides to relay config [19:01:41] [discord] unless it is essentially required for na to maintain an irc window so he for example can affect irc messages [19:02:21] [discord] How easy is the bot behavior to change, re: discord names? [19:02:21] [discord] E.g. is it possible to do nick or global from discord to IRC, or can it even potentially do user [nick] as suggested? [19:02:53] [discord] We can use nick or user [19:02:57] [discord] As dictator of both IRC and Discord, I approve any change [19:02:58] [discord] Don’t believe both [19:02:59] [discord] Username [realname#1234] would be ideal to me [19:03:04] [discord] I do have op in a few limited channels for running meetings via irccloud, but don't have universal op [19:03:06] [discord] anything less is a feature gap :p [19:03:20] [discord] speaking of meetings, when next meeting [19:03:47] [discord] when the dbcaches align and db141 is cast into the depths of Mt. Miraheze [19:04:05] [discord] @Agent ok, I will set it to use Nick [19:04:11] [discord] Not possible [19:04:18] [discord] In seriousness though, we probably should get one on the books son [19:04:22] [discord] *soon [19:04:33] [discord] both have weaknesses [19:04:58] [discord] at least if they are the only options to see on their own [19:05:02] [discord] Local nick is most likely to match MH user, so there's a good argument in favor [19:05:09] [discord] Merged [19:05:16] [discord] if one I'd probably pick nick for that reason [19:05:17] [discord] Applies in ~5 minutes [19:05:42] [discord] a full id would allow actual pinging I'd think [19:06:03] [discord] but I suppose that's up to the code gods [19:06:17] [discord] if only I had the patience for it :p [19:07:01] [discord] Patches possible [19:07:41] [discord] need manpower as always [19:10:24] [discord] /nick thisisatest [19:10:47] [discord] help w/ PortableInfobox needed, I'm gonna log off soon [19:10:48] [discord] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1081590449149591562 [19:10:48] [url] Discord | discord.com [19:11:26] [discord] Why is puppet so slow [19:12:31] [discord] Test [19:12:48] [discord] Worked [19:13:02] [discord] @Agent, Naleksuh: change applied [19:59:35] Hello Guest13! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [19:59:40] ok [20:00:01] How do I add the news on my wiki like wikipedia? [20:02:29] [discord] im not sure what you mean by news [20:03:35] There's the basically the "In the news" on wikipedia and my wiki is basically a news site (kinda) how do I implement it onto my wiki? [20:03:53] [discord] Are you the one who made the thread in the support channel? [20:04:03] yes [20:07:27] [discord] The IRC channel is relayed to the Discord general [20:07:29] [discord] just a note [20:07:40] oh [20:07:41] ok [20:07:52] [discord] i see [20:08:02] [discord] on irc you cant delete messages [20:08:13] [discord] apparently its because it infringes on your freedom or something [20:08:20] [discord] which is a shame because you can on discord [20:08:33] [discord] ok [20:09:46] [discord] may I ask how you change the layout of a wiki? [20:10:42] [discord] Man, got a few code changes I'd love to do for the relay bot but no time to cobble them together [20:11:45] [discord] ok [20:11:45] @Void I thought Reception123 already was making one? [20:12:45] [discord] No idea. The lack of time I have to work on my ideas also directly correlates to a lack of time to know what others may or may not be working on. [20:18:05] [discord] yes [20:18:07] [discord] @trainrobber661 [20:18:12] [discord] you go to "manage this wiki's extensions" [20:18:18] [discord] and find a skin you like under the "skins" tab [20:18:30] [discord] then go to "manage this wiki's additional settings" and change the default skin to that [20:18:37] [discord] then you go to your own preferences and change your skin to that [20:19:20] [discord] you can then use system messages and the "manage this wiki's additional settings" feature to customize the layout and styling and most of the text for your wiki [20:19:33] [discord] and the coloring etc [20:19:50] [discord] but for really advanced customizations that completely change how the wiki looks you will need some technical skill [20:20:00] [discord] ok thx [20:20:02] [discord] heres an example of changing system messages https://genshinimpact.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:AllMessages?prefix=&filter=modified&lang=en&limit=5000 [20:20:04] [url] System messages - Genshin Impact Wiki | genshinimpact.miraheze.org [20:20:05] [discord] np [20:20:30] [discord] also one more thing [20:20:43] [discord] how to create Template:Infobox [20:21:35] [discord] go to "manage this wiki's extension" and enable "portable infobox" [20:21:58] [discord] then go to (but replace genshinimpact.miraheze.org with your wiki's domain) [20:21:59] [url] Portable Infobox Builder - Genshin Impact Wiki | genshinimpact.miraheze.org [20:22:05] [discord] and make an infobox there [20:22:12] [discord] ok thx aswell [20:22:48] [discord] np [20:23:06] [discord] where is portable infoboz? [20:23:11] [discord] last question of now [20:23:21] [discord] under the "parser hooks" section in "manage this wiki's extensions" [20:24:22] [discord] thx again [20:24:32] [discord] np [20:24:36] [discord] happy to help [20:33:45] [discord] Special:InfoboxBuilder keeps loading however what do i do? [20:38:13] [discord] how do i edit Special:InfoboxBuilder? [20:38:31] [discord] hmm [20:38:35] [discord] thats odd [20:38:39] [discord] are you on firefox? [20:38:42] [discord] its been glitching lately [20:39:30] [discord] @CosmicAlpha iirc you develop portableinfobox, do you know what's causing it? [20:40:34] [discord] no i'm in chrome [20:40:38] [discord] thats odd [20:41:16] [discord] ok nvm it works [20:41:26] [discord] kk [20:44:12] [discord] It usually works on the second try and all tries after that if it hangs the first time [20:46:28] [discord] how do i change the infobox template layout? [20:52:42] [discord] mine looks a bit bland [20:52:55] [discord] no borders and i'm in monobook [21:02:21] [discord] how do i add borders to infobox? [21:04:29] [discord] ok [21:11:45] [discord] is there a theme designer? [22:13:43] [discord] If they’re PI you need to use CSS. if not, you can use CSS or do it inline . [22:22:23] [discord] sadly there is not a built-in theme designer (though i've had plans to make something like that) but its possible to use CSS to modify your infoboxes in any way at all that you want [22:23:17] [discord] if you dont know CSS then could you post a link to your server either here or in #support so that one of the community members can help make the infobox look the way you describe [22:40:41] [discord] depending on the skin there are options to customize in Special:ManageWiki/settings -> styling [22:40:51] [discord] the rest comes down to you being able to work with CSS yes [22:41:19] [discord] or others assisting in the same task [22:49:41] [discord] the main benefit to not having a dedicated theme designer is that there are no restrictions for how you can design your wiki beyond what is possible in css and js [23:00:40] [discord] I fixed Firefox for it. But the PortableInfoboxBuilder is still expermental, when I released the inital version it was not to advanced, but improved a bit more since then. My goal was to make it easier for users to make infoboxes, but it does have some issues. I'll look into some of that later. [23:00:40] [discord] Usually it continually loads the first time, but upon reloading page works the second time, I couldn't really figure out why, but since it works I never considered it high priority to fix that little issue. [23:01:01] [discord] ah i see [23:02:46] [discord] Yeah, I released a bit prematurely, as if I didn't, it still wouldn't have been done, a year later. So it was to be expected to have *some* bugs in it.