[01:56:09] [discord] i hope 48.6gb is enough for me to clone `miraheze/mediawiki` to github desktop 😅 [01:58:15] [discord] finally loaded [02:31:03] [discord] any admins online? [02:31:04] [discord] probably [02:31:10] [discord] https://dontasktoask.com [02:31:11] [url] Don't ask to ask, just ask | dontasktoask.com [02:31:35] [discord] that thing was taking so long i thought i was downloading gta 5 lol [02:31:59] [discord] or genshin impact [02:32:04] [discord] genshin takes longer [03:50:29] [discord] Who's @Juwi? [03:52:10] [discord] [[User:NDKilla]] [03:52:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NDKilla [03:52:11] [discord] [03:52:12] [url] User:NDKilla - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [03:52:51] [discord] Wait, you're NDKilla's alt? [03:53:47] [discord] Am NDKilla [03:56:54] [discord] NDK has been through a bad day w/ Discord woes. [05:43:47] [discord] anyone know how to do the {{#if:}} function that makes it so that it detects if every parameter isnt used? [05:43:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template: [05:45:25] [discord] i cant explain it well, ill give an example. [05:45:26] [discord] im trying to detect if infoboxes among pages are using a parameter, such as *id* or *ucflid* or *clbid* [05:45:27] [discord] So, I need to detect if a page is not using id, ucflid, or clbid so I can add a category saying that it does not contain one, similar to "Infoboxes with unknown parameters" [05:56:05] [discord] `{{#if: {{{id|}}}||{{{something|}}}` [05:56:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:_%7b%7b%7bid [05:56:05] [discord] if "id" is provided it won't do anything, but otherwise will include "something" [05:56:07] [discord] at least that's how I do it, and if I understood you correctly [06:00:17] [discord] worked, thank you [06:01:28] [discord] just for the record `` is invisible commentary code [06:02:09] [discord] handy in such cases + helpful for remembering or showing to other editors how stuff works [06:03:01] [discord] thx [06:43:17] [discord] ugh bruh [06:43:21] [discord] it logged me out of metawiki again [08:22:06] [discord] hello [08:22:17] [discord] where do i go for ban appeal [08:25:04] [discord] i am actually asking for a friend [08:25:32] [discord] To quote another helpful user: [08:25:33] [discord] email cvt@miraheze.org to email a block if you're blocked by counter vandalism. [08:25:34] [discord] email ts@miraheze.org if you are blocked by trust & safety. [08:25:35] [discord] email stewards@miraheze.org if you are blocked by stewards. [08:25:37] [discord] contact local wiki admins if you are blocked by local wiki admins [08:25:46] [discord] alright cheers [08:25:54] [discord] yeah he was blocked by a steward and we dont really know why [08:26:49] [discord] it said vandalism. is there a place i can read up on the rules? [08:26:50] [discord] do you know who blocked him, as in the user? [08:26:55] [discord] it was u lmao [08:27:01] [discord] I know who you're talking about [08:27:09] [discord] I explained to them that their IP vandalized the wiki [08:27:53] [discord] are u willing to dm? id like to talk about it [08:28:01] [discord] Sure [08:28:12] [discord] cheers [08:40:41] [discord] Lol cool super reactions in Discord now... [08:42:32] [discord] the what [08:43:43] [discord] Is this Discord Nitro things? [08:43:51] [discord] They don't appear on mobile sadly [08:43:53] [discord] :waaa: [08:43:57] [discord] I have a few though [08:44:02] [discord] and yes, it's a Nitro thing [08:47:07] [discord] Yeah it is a nitro thing, and it is only on desktop, but I sometimes use the desktop website on mobile also. [08:51:07] [discord] Only in some servers right now though. [08:58:50] [discord] Since I don't have nitro, I have to make do with GIFs, haha. [11:05:53] [discord] hello! how can I do a complete backup of all the files? I did one in august but now the option is gone? [11:06:09] [discord] the previous backup was 5.5 GB [11:08:24] [discord] btw, tomorrow I know if I get a job. If I do I will be a donor of miraheze 😄 [11:11:50] [discord] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T9688 Should I create a new bug report on Phabricator? Turns out the issue continues butis caused by something else. [11:11:51] [url] ⚓ T9688 JsCalendar breaks the page when using the "symbols" parameter | phabricator.miraheze.org [11:33:05] [discord] Ok thanks [11:40:19] [discord] Why was the Real Life Villains Wiki shut down? It was pretty based. It was probably the only wiki that exposed people right AND left. [11:46:06] [discord] Various reception wikis have either been shut down or disbanded due to their systemic inability to comply with policy [11:46:27] [discord] RLVW isn't reception wiki tho [11:46:51] [discord] lack of proper sources regarding still living people [11:46:59] [discord] Report it upstream [11:47:32] [discord] It’s a reception wiki. It’s not a qualtipedia wiki though [11:48:01] [discord] A reception wiki is any wiki that discuss the reception of a person or media primarily [11:48:16] [discord] Generally with a biased view one way [11:50:21] [discord] The whole concept of a ‘villains’ or ‘bad X’ wiki isn’t permitted [11:50:43] [discord] “Content on wikis must be fairly balanced, meaningful or substantiated by independent referencing. “ [11:50:51] [discord] Clue: fairly balanced [11:52:44] [discord] They were banned in the October content policy when it removed the requirement for it to the sole purpose [11:53:19] [discord] There’s now no requirement to prove intent when closing a wiki. The simple presence is enough. [12:13:26] [discord] its 'exposures' ranged from unsourced to provably untrue to dubious at very best, and presented a liability to the platform long term [12:14:21] [discord] I'm not surprised to see you in particular call it based but that simply is what it is, it's gone and if you want that sort of stuff then miraheze just is not the right platform [12:27:38] [discord] Will do 👍 [12:46:37] [discord] why wont the template for the infobox wor [12:46:38] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1081920703554650262/Screenshot_2023-03-05_at_12.45.43.png [12:46:43] [discord] even though it works on other pages [12:46:58] [discord] not the same template on other pages [12:49:10] You don’t have that template [13:01:57] [discord] then how do i get that templtate [14:24:29] [discord] Goodnight! [15:04:29] [discord] Hello! Since I'm moving from Fandom to Miraheze, I'm noticing that despite Special:WantedFiles and Category:Pages_with_broken_file_links being empty, some files on my new Wiki are still missing. [15:04:30] [discord] Notably, files that are inside Infoboxes. Is this a bug or a feature? And what is it exactly - is it that files used inside templates don't appear in those lists? [15:04:31] [discord] I'm asking to be sure I don't miss anything while taking a last look over! (‾◡◝) [15:26:02] [discord] did you imported only xml files provided by FANDOM or full dump w/ images? image files themselves exist on wiki? [15:27:25] [discord] but I suspect it's just portable infoboxes need a kick after initial import, try to make an edit on any page w/ it (edit and save, w/ or w/o actual changes) [15:28:41] [discord] The files were all imported "manually", and I'm not looking at the ones we have yet to upload! The files actually don't exist (though I'm uploading more rn), but don't appear in WantedFiles despite being used in Infoboxes [15:29:02] [discord] takes time for those pages to populate as well [15:29:09] [discord] if the imports were recent I'd peg it to that [15:29:14] [discord] offtopic [15:29:14] [discord] it looks like the relay is not parsing non-alphabet symbols correctly [15:29:43] [discord] Meaning? If I waited, their names would eventually be listed in WantedFiles? [15:30:01] [discord] unless something else is going on that's something I'd wait for first yes [15:30:38] [discord] Surprising, since there were a lot of files there :/ But good to know in case I miss any ahsjqajah [15:31:20] [discord] if they were there but then disappeared then that does sound funky [15:32:38] [discord] I don't know if those specific files ever were in the list, since other people were super kind in helping me upload a lot of files 🥺 I guess all I'm noticing is that pages wanted in Infoboxes aren't listed in WantedFiles atm [15:33:11] [discord] then yeah, unless it stretches into days I would initially assume the page isn't populated yet and it's being slow [15:33:32] [discord] if it does stretch out then it's something to poke sre about to take a look, probably via phabricator task [15:35:51] [discord] Okay! Though I'm hoping I'll have everything uploaded soon haha [17:29:55] [discord] infobox aint working [17:29:55] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1081991998283714580/Screenshot_2023-03-05_at_12.45.43.png [17:29:56] [discord] why [17:30:05] [discord] i got infoboxes working on other pages [17:31:18] [discord] Whatever infobox you're using also requires a template called Tabs and another called Infobox Stadium [17:32:02] [discord] If you're confident both exist on your wiki, try using the Purge action to force the server to re-parse the page [17:41:52] [discord] I was told on Mediawiki Phabricator that they don't track big reports for the JsCalendar extension. Where should I report it then? On the extension GitHub or somewhere else? [17:42:21] [discord] whereever they track bugs [17:43:13] [discord] https://github.com/edwardspec/mediawiki-extension-JsCalendar/issues [17:43:13] [url] Issues · edwardspec/mediawiki-extension-JsCalendar · GitHub | github.com [17:43:17] [discord] @Xena [17:44:09] [discord] Thanks, so on Github 👍 [17:44:13] [discord] yes [17:44:52] [discord] JsCalendar is super busted in 1.39 at the moment, not just that. Like it just straight-up doesn't display events. [17:44:59] [discord] (Or at least it was during betaheze testing [17:45:18] [discord] Or am I confusing that with the other calendar...? [17:45:27] [discord] how did it pass review then? [17:45:46] [discord] Maybe. Apart from the issue I'm facing with parsing event page contents it's usable [17:46:02] [discord] Oh, yep, I'm confusing it with MsCalendar [18:48:20] [discord] Looked in all the help guides but can't find any information. Does anyone know if .Docx and .Pptx files can be uploaded to a Wiki page? [18:51:37] [discord] Special:Upload will tell you [18:51:56] [discord] PowerPoints can definitely be rendered on Wikimedia wikis so I’d assume yes [18:52:25] [discord] not defaultly iirc, but you can set it in Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-media [18:52:30] [discord] just go to file extensions [18:53:18] [discord] That answered the question [18:53:19] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1082012985662377994/image.png [18:53:23] [discord] Great. Cheers. I'll ahve a gander [18:54:25] [discord] Although I suppose I should just save them as PDFs anyway... [18:54:35] [discord] PDFs are better [18:54:47] [discord] For many reasons [18:54:55] [discord] More compressed, harder to edit [18:55:13] [discord] Only negative is people can't edit them without special tools. But they don't need to in this instance [18:55:30] [discord] quite interesting how `.apk`'s are allowed, but `.exe`'s arent [18:55:36] [discord] That’s a positive if it’s for distribution and you won’t to control it [18:55:43] [discord] @Meteor that’s completely stupid [18:55:47] [discord] Blame @Reception123 [18:56:01] [discord] even dmgs arent allowed :p [18:56:40] [discord] For sure. [18:58:33] [discord] Looks to be fairly old [18:58:41] [discord] Exes were allowed at one point [18:59:11] [discord] Do most android devices allow executables from internet to be used [19:00:05] [discord] Not generally, no [19:00:13] [discord] At least, not out of box [19:00:15] [discord] it requires it to be enabled on a per app basis [19:00:19] [discord] I suppose it depends on policy [19:00:30] [discord] Windows generally will allow most [19:00:41] [discord] And I don’t believe signing apps is that hard [19:00:43] [discord] wait nvm [19:00:58] [discord] But Android malware is fairly common [19:01:07] [discord] iirc microsoft does some annoying things that make smaller time entities not bother [19:01:11] [discord] PDF worked. I also enabled .ppt, .pptx, .doc, and .docx [19:01:14] [discord] Mobile OSes are generally fairly restricted in that regard, it must come from the store unless you've rooted and installed a custom OS [19:01:55] [discord] Any company that requires you to disable security features needs punching [19:01:58] [discord] Don't need to root and Android to sideload [19:02:08] [discord] yeah [19:02:09] [discord] Most Androids have an option to allow it [19:02:11] [discord] Oh right, that's baked into dev options [19:02:13] [discord] as far as I'm aware you can forget it for ios unless you break it to the degree it's not even ios anymore [19:02:17] [discord] android is more permissive in that regard [19:02:18] [discord] We do have 1 provider who makes you change passed every 2 weeks [19:02:23] [discord] Yes [19:02:35] [discord] Yeah, it's nice to get full Google Play Store on the Amazon tablets [19:02:42] [discord] the fact I can break android in favorable ways means I will use it over apple things anyday [19:02:44] [discord] im pretty sure the EU is forcing apple to allow sideloaded apps [19:02:59] [discord] The EU are forcing a lot [19:03:02] [discord] if only the eu did more things for internet liberty [19:03:07] [discord] But we are heading to #ID:615786602454581249 [19:03:09] [discord] alas they seem to threaten it as much as trying to help [19:03:23] [discord] I've not heard that. There's been some challenges around Epic Game Store, but don't remember that specifically [19:03:29] [discord] I'm killing time while trying to log back into miraheze [19:03:35] [discord] +1 on that, let's hop on over to off-topic [19:03:39] [discord] it's always a "pleasure" to do it [19:03:56] [discord] idk why it keeps logging me out every few days [19:04:08] [discord] that seems to be an ongoing thing for at least certain users [19:04:27] [discord] perhaps you've tried blowing out your miraheze cache, if I find myself logged out again that's my next step [19:04:33] [discord] > Do most android devices allow executables from internet to be used [19:04:34] [discord] @RhinosF1 you have to enable it [19:12:40] [discord] Hello [19:12:49] [discord] I have some doubts [19:13:02] [discord] I have a wiki that I'm making [19:14:15] [discord] Is there a way to make it look like this: [19:14:16] [discord] I have seen that he also uses miraheze [19:14:17] [discord] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1082018257210441880/Captura.PNG [19:14:43] [discord] I also have some more doubts. I don't know if you can help me with this [19:14:52] [discord] the skin is Cosmos [19:15:05] [discord] you can use some css and do some tweaking in Special:ManageWiki/settings [19:15:46] [discord] Can you explain me how? [19:15:51] [discord] Yeah, it's Cosmos + some very deep CSS [19:16:01] [discord] Cosmos by default looks nothing like that [19:16:09] [discord] https://mwcosmos.com [19:16:09] [url] Cosmos Example Wiki | mwcosmos.com [19:16:18] [discord] That's how it looks like by default [19:16:25] [discord] But the color and background can be easily changed [19:16:30] [discord] Oh [19:17:11] [discord] I come from the Fandom wiki (they took down the one I had, even though there was nothing wrong) and although the code is similar, some things have me confused [19:18:41] [discord] Can you guide me with this? [19:18:56] [discord] I still don't know how [19:20:01]